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Finish this war (a translation from -taraf news paper columnist-)
1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2008 Sun 05:24 pm

This country does call somebody into account for these boys
She never did.
Now, they are split as Kurdish boys and Turkish boys and they are dying
In old days, they were split as left and right and they were dying
We have been watching this dyings of the boys who defined one way or another, for almost last 40 years
Has somebody taken into account for any of these incidents?
Anybody was asked to explain?
Are these people who incited these boys, who sent them to their deaths, who got them killed, came in view?
As if these boys are born for dying at the young age.
Their deaths are taken so naturally
Nobody seems to be surprised
It seems to me nobody even cares.
We are feeling hatred not sorrow, we want to take revenge not to save
As if more deaths ´from the other side´ will calm them down
6 boys died in last may on the same place where 15 boys died
Anybody taken into account for daglica attack? (reference to 21 oct 2007 -13 soldiers died)
There was a censor to write about ´aktutun attac´
Writing about daglica was censored with a court order
In fact, parliament commissions should have been formed and these incidents should have been investigated and whoever was responsible should have been made public.
They were not done
Their commanders are responsible for he deaths of those boys
If attacking the security stations is this easy in a country, it means there is a military problem in that country.
Who is making the mistake?
Who other than the commanders?
Look at this, there is a really strange situation here.
There are commanders who are unable to protect these boys, not taking necessary precautions, not taken into account for their mistakes, not able to get rid of their incompetence
At the same time they are the ones who want this war to continue most
They are always objecting to every single democratic and peaceful steps
Retired generals keeps saying ´there will be more dying of the soldiers´
Then, why do you want to continue with this war?
Just to let more boys getting killed?
Nobody is able to win this war.
There will be no winner after this war
Only boys will die.
Neither Kurds´ problem will finish because pkk attacks and kills 15 boys
Nor turkey will have tranquility because they killed pkk members
This war is going on for years
What happened?
You tell me what happened?
Any winner?
No
This war has to end
A democratic environment which Kurdish citizens will feel free and secure should be created and somehow it should be provided that the boys in the mountains should be coming home
This country is bleeding
She is bleeding because of a war which has no meaning, which will not come to a meaningful end
Now, the danger is becoming greater
The Aegean towns are being divided as Kurdish and Turkish districts
there are flags everywhere
There are skirmishes
As if, the entire region will explode with a spark
It is not difficult to anticipate that some people want to see this explosion
Do not forget maras, sivas
There are people here, they wont give a thing if thousands die, in order to keep the military regime, in order to stop the democracy not to see more freedom.
Did anybody moved a finger during the time when 20 boys died everyday?
They only made plans for  coup d´etat , they waited for ´more boys die and the atmosphere is suitable for the coup d´etat
They can wait in these days too.
They can provoke people
They can get people got killed
We are at the times that the government and the parliament should take control to finish this war.
I am sure they are getting detailed information from the agean region
I am sure they see the danger better than we do
If they dont care about the deaths of boys, they should care about their own future.
If this fire is spread out to entire Turkey, their future will be burnt too
Finish this war now
A country can not find happiness with dying boys
Save those boys
Please, forget the hatred and feel the pain; do want to save and leave the revenge
You save those boys, this country and yourself
Finish this damning war.

The original is here :

http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?mid=2150

ps..it is almost line by line translation. It might be useful for learners too

2.       amnariel
138 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 01:45 pm

Has this situation, ongoing for almost 40 years, ever been officially declared as war?

3.       ciko
784 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:11 pm

No, they still dont name it as war. i think they will call it as war when turkish and kurdish are killing eachother on streets.. probably thats what they want.

 

 

 

Quoting amnariel

Has this situation, ongoing for almost 40 years, ever been officially declared as war?

 

 

4.       amnariel
138 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:26 pm

 

Quoting ciko

No, they still dont name it as war. i think they will call it as war when turkish and kurdish are killing eachother on streets.. probably thats what they want.

 

Thank you ciko. So I thought.

 

I talked about this issue with my bf a lot, and for me personally it´s a saddening situation. I´ve lived though a WAR, it was named war, even though we were not attacked by another country, but it was of political interest to some world learders aparently.

 

Ever since I know for the news on TV I´ve been listening about Kurdish issue in Turkey and people getting killed in firearm conflicts in Turkey and so on. I guess it´s not in the interest of global politics either to finally solve this useless waste of young lives...

5.       Adam25
369 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

This country does call somebody into account for these boys
She never did.
Now, they are split as Kurdish boys and Turkish boys and they are dying
In old days, they were split as left and right and they were dying
We have been watching this dyings of the boys who defined one way or another, for almost last 40 years
Has somebody taken into account for any of these incidents?
Anybody was asked to explain?
Are these people who incited these boys, who sent them to their deaths, who got them killed, came in view?
As if these boys are born for dying at the young age.
Their deaths are taken so naturally
Nobody seems to be surprised
It seems to me nobody even cares.
We are feeling hatred not sorrow, we want to take revenge not to save
As if more deaths ´from the other side´ will calm them down
6 boys died in last may on the same place where 15 boys died
Anybody taken into account for daglica attack? (reference to 21 oct 2007 -13 soldiers died)
There was a censor to write about ´aktutun attac´
Writing about daglica was censored with a court order
In fact, parliament commissions should have been formed and these incidents should have been investigated and whoever was responsible should have been made public.
They were not done
Their commanders are responsible for he deaths of those boys
If attacking the security stations is this easy in a country, it means there is a military problem in that country.
Who is making the mistake?
Who other than the commanders?
Look at this, there is a really strange situation here.
There are commanders who are unable to protect these boys, not taking necessary precautions, not taken into account for their mistakes, not able to get rid of their incompetence
At the same time they are the ones who want this war to continue most
They are always objecting to every single democratic and peaceful steps
Retired generals keeps saying ´there will be more dying of the soldiers´
Then, why do you want to continue with this war?
Just to let more boys getting killed?
Nobody is able to win this war.
There will be no winner after this war
Only boys will die.
Neither Kurds´ problem will finish because pkk attacks and kills 15 boys
Nor turkey will have tranquility because they killed pkk members
This war is going on for years
What happened?
You tell me what happened?
Any winner?
No
This war has to end
A democratic environment which Kurdish citizens will feel free and secure should be created and somehow it should be provided that the boys in the mountains should be coming home
This country is bleeding
She is bleeding because of a war which has no meaning, which will not come to a meaningful end
Now, the danger is becoming greater
The Aegean towns are being divided as Kurdish and Turkish districts
there are flags everywhere
There are skirmishes
As if, the entire region will explode with a spark
It is not difficult to anticipate that some people want to see this explosion
Do not forget maras, sivas
There are people here, they wont give a thing if thousands die, in order to keep the military regime, in order to stop the democracy not to see more freedom.
Did anybody moved a finger during the time when 20 boys died everyday?
They only made plans for  coup d´etat , they waited for ´more boys die and the atmosphere is suitable for the coup d´etat
They can wait in these days too.
They can provoke people
They can get people got killed
We are at the times that the government and the parliament should take control to finish this war.
I am sure they are getting detailed information from the agean region
I am sure they see the danger better than we do
If they dont care about the deaths of boys, they should care about their own future.
If this fire is spread out to entire Turkey, their future will be burnt too
Finish this war now
A country can not find happiness with dying boys
Save those boys
Please, forget the hatred and feel the pain; do want to save and leave the revenge
You save those boys, this country and yourself
Finish this damning war.

The original is here :

http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?mid=2150

ps..it is almost line by line translation. It might be useful for learners too

 

 thankyou for the translation of this article

6.       ciko
784 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:34 pm

it is in the interest of EU actually. but who does not want this war to end also does not want Turkey get into EU so that they can keep their vital position. ahhhhhh there are so much to talk about but i am afraid i may be sent to jail because what i say

 

Quoting amnariel

Thank you ciko. So I thought.

 

I talked about this issue with my bf a lot, and for me personally it´s a saddening situation. I´ve lived though a WAR, it was named war, even though we were not attacked by another country, but it was of political interest to some world learders aparently.

 

Ever since I know for the news on TV I´ve been listening about Kurdish issue in Turkey and people getting killed in firearm conflicts in Turkey and so on. I guess it´s not in the interest of global politics either to finally solve this useless waste of young lives...

 

 

7.       WarTrain
325 posts
 06 Oct 2008 Mon 03:49 pm

 

Quoting ciko

but i am afraid i may be sent to jail because what i say

 

40% gay?

Sent to jail?

 

Beware what happens in the prison shower - dont bend down to pick up the soap! lol

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