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Finish this war (a translation from -taraf news paper columnist-)
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05 Oct 2008 Sun 05:24 pm |
This country does call somebody into account for these boys She never did. Now, they are split as Kurdish boys and Turkish boys and they are dying In old days, they were split as left and right and they were dying We have been watching this dyings of the boys who defined one way or another, for almost last 40 years Has somebody taken into account for any of these incidents? Anybody was asked to explain? Are these people who incited these boys, who sent them to their deaths, who got them killed, came in view? As if these boys are born for dying at the young age. Their deaths are taken so naturally Nobody seems to be surprised It seems to me nobody even cares. We are feeling hatred not sorrow, we want to take revenge not to save As if more deaths ´from the other side´ will calm them down 6 boys died in last may on the same place where 15 boys died Anybody taken into account for daglica attack? (reference to 21 oct 2007 -13 soldiers died) There was a censor to write about ´aktutun attac´ Writing about daglica was censored with a court order In fact, parliament commissions should have been formed and these incidents should have been investigated and whoever was responsible should have been made public. They were not done Their commanders are responsible for he deaths of those boys If attacking the security stations is this easy in a country, it means there is a military problem in that country. Who is making the mistake? Who other than the commanders? Look at this, there is a really strange situation here. There are commanders who are unable to protect these boys, not taking necessary precautions, not taken into account for their mistakes, not able to get rid of their incompetence At the same time they are the ones who want this war to continue most They are always objecting to every single democratic and peaceful steps Retired generals keeps saying ´there will be more dying of the soldiers´ Then, why do you want to continue with this war? Just to let more boys getting killed? Nobody is able to win this war. There will be no winner after this war Only boys will die. Neither Kurds´ problem will finish because pkk attacks and kills 15 boys Nor turkey will have tranquility because they killed pkk members This war is going on for years What happened? You tell me what happened? Any winner? No This war has to end A democratic environment which Kurdish citizens will feel free and secure should be created and somehow it should be provided that the boys in the mountains should be coming home This country is bleeding She is bleeding because of a war which has no meaning, which will not come to a meaningful end Now, the danger is becoming greater The Aegean towns are being divided as Kurdish and Turkish districts there are flags everywhere There are skirmishes As if, the entire region will explode with a spark It is not difficult to anticipate that some people want to see this explosion Do not forget maras, sivas There are people here, they wont give a thing if thousands die, in order to keep the military regime, in order to stop the democracy not to see more freedom. Did anybody moved a finger during the time when 20 boys died everyday? They only made plans for coup d´etat , they waited for ´more boys die and the atmosphere is suitable for the coup d´etat They can wait in these days too. They can provoke people They can get people got killed We are at the times that the government and the parliament should take control to finish this war. I am sure they are getting detailed information from the agean region I am sure they see the danger better than we do If they dont care about the deaths of boys, they should care about their own future. If this fire is spread out to entire Turkey, their future will be burnt too Finish this war now A country can not find happiness with dying boys Save those boys Please, forget the hatred and feel the pain; do want to save and leave the revenge You save those boys, this country and yourself Finish this damning war.
The original is here :
http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?mid=2150
ps..it is almost line by line translation. It might be useful for learners too
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06 Oct 2008 Mon 01:45 pm |
Has this situation, ongoing for almost 40 years, ever been officially declared as war?
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06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:11 pm |
No, they still dont name it as war. i think they will call it as war when turkish and kurdish are killing eachother on streets.. probably thats what they want.
Has this situation, ongoing for almost 40 years, ever been officially declared as war?
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06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:26 pm |
No, they still dont name it as war. i think they will call it as war when turkish and kurdish are killing eachother on streets.. probably thats what they want.
Thank you ciko. So I thought.
I talked about this issue with my bf a lot, and for me personally it´s a saddening situation. I´ve lived though a WAR, it was named war, even though we were not attacked by another country, but it was of political interest to some world learders aparently.
Ever since I know for the news on TV I´ve been listening about Kurdish issue in Turkey and people getting killed in firearm conflicts in Turkey and so on. I guess it´s not in the interest of global politics either to finally solve this useless waste of young lives...
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06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:33 pm |
This country does call somebody into account for these boys She never did. Now, they are split as Kurdish boys and Turkish boys and they are dying In old days, they were split as left and right and they were dying We have been watching this dyings of the boys who defined one way or another, for almost last 40 years Has somebody taken into account for any of these incidents? Anybody was asked to explain? Are these people who incited these boys, who sent them to their deaths, who got them killed, came in view? As if these boys are born for dying at the young age. Their deaths are taken so naturally Nobody seems to be surprised It seems to me nobody even cares. We are feeling hatred not sorrow, we want to take revenge not to save As if more deaths ´from the other side´ will calm them down 6 boys died in last may on the same place where 15 boys died Anybody taken into account for daglica attack? (reference to 21 oct 2007 -13 soldiers died) There was a censor to write about ´aktutun attac´ Writing about daglica was censored with a court order In fact, parliament commissions should have been formed and these incidents should have been investigated and whoever was responsible should have been made public. They were not done Their commanders are responsible for he deaths of those boys If attacking the security stations is this easy in a country, it means there is a military problem in that country. Who is making the mistake? Who other than the commanders? Look at this, there is a really strange situation here. There are commanders who are unable to protect these boys, not taking necessary precautions, not taken into account for their mistakes, not able to get rid of their incompetence At the same time they are the ones who want this war to continue most They are always objecting to every single democratic and peaceful steps Retired generals keeps saying ´there will be more dying of the soldiers´ Then, why do you want to continue with this war? Just to let more boys getting killed? Nobody is able to win this war. There will be no winner after this war Only boys will die. Neither Kurds´ problem will finish because pkk attacks and kills 15 boys Nor turkey will have tranquility because they killed pkk members This war is going on for years What happened? You tell me what happened? Any winner? No This war has to end A democratic environment which Kurdish citizens will feel free and secure should be created and somehow it should be provided that the boys in the mountains should be coming home This country is bleeding She is bleeding because of a war which has no meaning, which will not come to a meaningful end Now, the danger is becoming greater The Aegean towns are being divided as Kurdish and Turkish districts there are flags everywhere There are skirmishes As if, the entire region will explode with a spark It is not difficult to anticipate that some people want to see this explosion Do not forget maras, sivas There are people here, they wont give a thing if thousands die, in order to keep the military regime, in order to stop the democracy not to see more freedom. Did anybody moved a finger during the time when 20 boys died everyday? They only made plans for coup d´etat , they waited for ´more boys die and the atmosphere is suitable for the coup d´etat They can wait in these days too. They can provoke people They can get people got killed We are at the times that the government and the parliament should take control to finish this war. I am sure they are getting detailed information from the agean region I am sure they see the danger better than we do If they dont care about the deaths of boys, they should care about their own future. If this fire is spread out to entire Turkey, their future will be burnt too Finish this war now A country can not find happiness with dying boys Save those boys Please, forget the hatred and feel the pain; do want to save and leave the revenge You save those boys, this country and yourself Finish this damning war.
The original is here :
http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?mid=2150
ps..it is almost line by line translation. It might be useful for learners too
thankyou for the translation of this article
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06 Oct 2008 Mon 02:34 pm |
it is in the interest of EU actually. but who does not want this war to end also does not want Turkey get into EU so that they can keep their vital position. ahhhhhh there are so much to talk about but i am afraid i may be sent to jail because what i say
Thank you ciko. So I thought.
I talked about this issue with my bf a lot, and for me personally it´s a saddening situation. I´ve lived though a WAR, it was named war, even though we were not attacked by another country, but it was of political interest to some world learders aparently.
Ever since I know for the news on TV I´ve been listening about Kurdish issue in Turkey and people getting killed in firearm conflicts in Turkey and so on. I guess it´s not in the interest of global politics either to finally solve this useless waste of young lives...
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06 Oct 2008 Mon 03:49 pm |
but i am afraid i may be sent to jail because what i say
40% gay?
Sent to jail?
Beware what happens in the prison shower - dont bend down to pick up the soap!
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