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Will non-Muslims go to heaven too?
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70.       libralady
5152 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 07:08 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

You should speak..{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}  since your so in touch with your christian views.

 

 I take people as I find, regardless of colour, creed or religion   and I find it hard to stomach that someone so staunchly religous as you can write that those who do not believe in God will be judged.  So when does his happen?  Can you ask God and let me know....................I need to make some plans

71.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 07:22 pm

 

Quoting mltm

And Meltem is begging to God whose presence is unknown : If aenigma is in heaven, I don´t want to go there.  She will go bla bla bla!!!

 

Canim, thank you for your prayers. I will make sure that I put you in a different sector of heaven then Aenigma. In fact, you will be right by my side.

72.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 07:52 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Canim, thank you for your prayers. I will make sure that I put you in a different sector of heaven then Aenigma. In fact, you will be right by my side.

You seem to be so sure you will be ´admin´ in the other life too.lol

If it is the case, send Aenigma to my sector please!

 

73.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 07:52 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 I take people as I find, regardless of colour, creed or religion   and I find it hard to stomach that someone so staunchly religous as you can write that those who do not believe in God will be judged.  So when does his happen?  Can you ask God and let me know....................I need to make some plans

 

 First of all what makes you think I discriminate against color, creed or religion?  You are making assumptions about me that aren´t true.  I recommend you get some pepto if you have a bad stomach.  Otherwise, I never said that non-believers would be the only ones judged.  I believe we all will. 

 

 I asked God and he said you have alot of planning to do. You need to try to keep your emotions intact when you post here, that would be a good start.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  Remember this is God speaking of course.

74.       amnariel
138 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 08:57 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 Can you ask God and let me know....................I need to make some plans

 

While you´re at it can you please ask Him to uncomplicate my life a little too I could use some Divine intervetion ASAP 

75.       catwoman
8933 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:15 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

You seem to be so sure you will be ´admin´ in the other life too. lol

If it is the case, send Aenigma to my sector please!

 

Well yes, I will. I passed my tests. If you have any requests, please send me your prayers, I may hear to one or two of them per person.

76.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:23 pm

 

Quoting mltm

And Meltem is begging to God whose presence is unknown : If aenigma is in heaven, I don´t want to go there.  She will go bla bla bla!!!

 

 Awww don´t worry canim, we will not be in the same place.  Fortunately (for me) you will be somewhere further south (and a lot hotter) as punishment for doing your scientific experiments on your pets! lol

77.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:51 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I asked God and he said you have alot of planning to do. You need to try to keep your emotions intact when you post here, that would be a good start.{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}  Remember this is God speaking of course.

 

 

 

Have God also told you that your heaven can be complete when he put me there?

78.       armegon
1872 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 02:07 am

 

 

Quoting catwoman

So it looks like the two of you have different answers... Didn´t someone say before that Islam has clear answers?

 

 I think i explained this here;below ..

Quoting armegon

It seems whitepath confused , actually he is looking at the single verses not seeing the big picture of Quran. It is clear from the Quran(98:1-3, 5.69, 7:157, 2:135-137) that the belief in one Creator and the Last day should be in accordance and conformity with Quran.

Believing in one Creator is the main message of Quran, if you have submitted to one God and if the description of God do have confirmity with the Quran(actually Quran claims it is confirmation of all other holy books which was not corrupted, means the ones who once believed that holy books were also muslims according to Quran) that means you are also muslim and these verses herald that there is a reward for them regardless of religion that they say to believe thus giving a name of one´s religion carries no importance. And of course only God knows what is in heart. 2:135-137 describes this well, i think;

Quote:

2:135-137 They say, "Be Jews or Christians, then you will be rightly guided" Say, "Nay, we follow the religion of Abraham, the upright. He associated no one with  One True God." And Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian.
O you who believe, say, "We believe in Allah and the Revelation that has been conveyed to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob as well as the tribal Israelite Prophets; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to other Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among them since all of them were one in Purpose and they got their guidance from One True God. And for Him, we are Muslims."
So, if they come to believe in the way you believe, they will be rightly guided. But if they turn away, they will be falling into opposition and Allah will be Sufficient for you against them. He is the Hearer, Knower of all things and events. 

 

 

79.       armegon
1872 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 02:15 am

 

Quoting amnariel

 

Every person, baptised or not, christian or not, will be judged by her/his deeds and actions, how much good did she/he did in life, how many times choose the harder way just because that was the honest way. I believe that ALL good people will go to Heaven, so our DEEDS will be judged, not US. Hope this makes sense to someone else, not just me

 

Are these the doctrine of christianity? As far as i know in christianity only salvation is Jesus Christ not deeds. And Jesus´ sacrifice saves people, according to Pavlus(Paul) Abraham was saved through faith, Noah was saved through faith, so it seems in christianity faith in Jesus Christ carries importance rather than deeds.

 

This also discussed in Bibles, see the below passages, choose one to believe , Christians had chosen Paul;

Quote:

Pavlus:

“Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”(Romans/3:2
“But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.”(Galatians/3:23)

Jacob:

“But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.”(Jacob/1:25)

Pavlus:

“Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:” (Romans/3:22)

Jacoob:

“What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?”(Jacob/2:14)

Pavlus:

“Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith”(Romans/3:3

Jacoob:

“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.”(Jacoob/2:19)

Pavlus:

“For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.”(Romans/4:3)

Jacoob:

“But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?”(Jacoob/2:20-21)

Pavlus:

“for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.”(Romans/4:9)

Jacoob:

“Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?”(Jacoob/2:22)

80.       amnariel
138 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 10:07 am

Can someone please tell me how was the Holy Bible corrupted? I´ve heard this a few times, and when I asked how, in which way, no one knew to explain me furtner than "Quran says so" {#lang_emotions_confused} {#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

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