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1.       britturk
625 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 12:51 am

The spell can briefly be defined as the belief that nature may be affected by using supernatural powers. The first human communities took their conceptions of supernatural power from nature itself. Man possessed little infornmed knowledge of nature, even as regards the simplest subjects, and considered nature a terrifying power, which people could experience in every field of life. Eventually that power became isolated from the concept of nature itself and took on an entirely different identity. The first human beings believed that protection from this power and all its manifestations was necessary, and began conceiving of these matters as taboos. It was believed that if a person broke a taboo, the only way he could survive was be employing a magical spell. In the first examples of spells, we find ourselves dealing with the concept of using supernatural forces to get rid of other supernatural forces. In this framework of thinking, the parts all add up to a whole, and things done to the whole also affect the component parts. This understanding is the source of the analogical spell. That is why people believe if they cast a spell on an object that belongs to someone else, that person will also be affected by the spell, or they believe that if they pour water on the ground, it will rain. Some people believe that if an effigy is made of the person whose death is desired is made and that effigy is tortured, that will affect the person it represents in exactly the same way. This idea eventually leads to the individual being identified with the symbol. That is why the ancient Turks never referred to the wolf by its proper name, “kurt,” but used other names such as “böcü”, “börü”, “canavar”. Similar to this belief, in some parts of Anatolia people still draw circles around the places they live and accompany this with prayers, in the belief that the circle will act as a wall to protect them from wild animals. There are different kinds of spell, which are generally divided into black and white. While white spells aim to produce beneficial results, black spells are used for evil purposes. In Turkey, spells are generally used to make a man more attached to his family or to moderate his behaviour in some way, to make someone love , to find an object which has been lost, to defeat the enemy, to create better fortune or to create a misunderstanding between two people. For instance, in order to cast a love spell, three peppers are taken, the sura Tebbet of the Koran is read out for the each seed of the peppers, although these are kept separate from one another. After the readings have been made, the seeds are put back inside the peppers and buried in ashes. The person casting the spell hits the right wall of the house and says:

I hit my hand on the wall
The wall shattered into three
Brainy came out from the first
And Ismail the fairy from the other
I sent Brainy to the cave
I sent Ismail fairy to....... (The name of a person whose love is desired)
Who comes to me without stopping or resting?

Although many spells involve reading extracts from the Koran, magic is actually definitively prohibited in Islam.
Spells generally frighten people, no matter whether used good or bad purposes. For this reason there are a number of means by which one can protect oneself from spells cast by someone else. These include performing ritual ablutions with water from a mill, jumping over rivers, or casting a counter-spell.

2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 01:05 am

Hello Britturk,

 

You have already started a couple threads on this topic. Please, do not do that. If you want to add some posts, use your previous threads for that!

3.       britturk
625 posts
 12 Oct 2008 Sun 09:20 pm

Ok I consider myself well and truly told off{#lang_emotions_rant}Most of my posts were translations though{#lang_emotions_razz}

4.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 12:05 am

 

Quoting britturk

Most of my posts were translations though{#lang_emotions_razz}

 

 

 What do you need this nonesense translated for anyway? I don´t think many people are interested in translating a long piece of how men used to be unable to think clearly and thought of superpowers to put good and bad spells upon people. If you really want to inform someone, you might as well tell them to google büyü in Turkish, I bet they find loads of the same sort of hits.

 

If case you need it because you think you know someone who could cast a spell on you, just jump over a river. The article says so lol

5.       britturk
625 posts
 14 Oct 2008 Tue 11:27 am

I didnt ask for this particular piece to be translated. I just posted it as people had asked what this is all about so maybe it would be better to get your facts straight before you apply your sarcasim.{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_rant}.

6.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 01:00 am

 

Quoting britturk

I didnt ask for this particular piece to be translated. I just posted it as people had asked what this is all about so maybe it would be better to get your facts straight before you apply your sarcasim.{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_rant}.

 

 Sorry only now realized it was off-topic where it should be

 

That leaves your other translationposts unanswered though

 

And no need to be so angry or call me crazy, I just wondered why someone would have messages on this translated, rather different from the ´canýmþekerimaþkýmgüzelim´ messages. Anyway apparantly something you dont feel like explaning.

7.       britturk
625 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 06:42 pm

Actually again you are wrong {#lang_emotions_wink} I got the translations I needed thanks from a very well respected member of Turkish Class fortunately I had them sent via Private Messages {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}. Im entitled to ask for any translation without an explanation{#lang_emotions_razz} .........................as for saying dont call you crazy have you forgot what your turkish class name is....maybe i should remind you its Deli_Kizin hahahahaha{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}{#lang_emotions_you_crazy} plus i didnt call you crazy Ill let the emotions speak for themselves lol. The topic of buyu is something that I am intrested in and I thought people on this site may have been able to give me some extra information on this topic.Not a crime is it????????????????

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 06:53 pm

 

Quoting britturk

have you forgot what your turkish class name is....maybe i should remind you

 

 Strange comment coming from you...

 

Quote: britturk 

maybe i should remind you

 

I would if I could keep up with the pace.

9.       lady in red
6947 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 07:01 pm

 

Quoting britturk

.... have you forgot what your turkish class name is....

 

 

hmm.....some people seem to do that quite often {#lang_emotions_lol} - they must find it difficult remembering who they are!

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Oct 2008 Wed 07:02 pm

Oh well, you are free to ask for anything translated without an explanation, I just wondered as I said. Apparantly it bothers you I asked, and sarcasm is the second name of most comments on this website, so lighten up, dont take it that seriously

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