Anyone care to argue about this? 

(The first of Elisabeth´s so called "neutral" topics.)

it depends from the angle you are looking at them  left, right, front or......... rear

I googled "ugly butterfly" and found this.  It is certainly no oil painting...

Well, since they are technically insects (I AM SURE I WILL CORRECTED IF THEY ARE NOT!!), my first initial instinct is to say....NO, butterflies are hidious!  But they do have very pretty wings...so maybe it is butterfly wings that are pretty and not the entire butterfly.

This is such a typical shallow western response!  So, butterflies are not good enough for you eh?  Your dollars can buy you something more beautiful?

You are brainwashed with your media propaganda, you dont even know a butterfly so don´t talk about what you don´t know ok?

What is the difference between a butterfly and a moth?  I happen to think the butterfly is more attractive myself.

 Oh God - did you go to school?

Hadi Alameda come here quick with somes links to Wiki....

Another not so pretty one:

Yeah yeah so butterflies not good enough for our EU cousins either eh?  This is a product of your greedy capitalism - you want to buy everything so perfect, so beautiful.

I would like to inform you that this butterfly is considered quite a "hottie" among its friends!

 Isn´t that a moth?????  TRUDY!!

 not pretty at all, it must be a Western one. Are turkish butterflies beautiful?

 Sorry, I googled for ´ugly butterflies´ as well, but in Dutch and this one came up.... Don´t shoot me please.....

 This is a neutral thread...lets not argue over whether or not Turkish butterflies are more beautiful!  TROUBLE MAKER!!

 There are not shootings in neutral threads!

 It appears Trudy and I went to the same school.

 Bed Schools??

Are these beter, Elisabeth?

I go to a flower show annually and they were selling butterflies pressed in glass to hang on your wall.  Do you find this cruel?  How do you feel about people displaying these dead butterflies as artwork, should they be banned?

 You were that girl that always had to stay after school?

but but... isn´t  this a site about Turkey?

I demand someone to tell me if butterflies are more beautiful in Turkey than in the West.

 Another trouble maker!!     I think it is cruel if you are the butterfly but I generally don´t feel bad for insects.....is that wrong?!

 Ask it the Danish/Dutch writer of this book about love in Turkey.....

(Turkse vlinders = Turkish butterflies)

Don´t ever buy one of these Teas  

I find it cruel, regarless is they are pretty or not...especially when they are species in danger of extinction..

 If the butterfly was already dead, then I guess it´s ok.  But if you make a habit of killing them, framing them and hanging them on your wall then it´s bed. 

 Don´t worry I didn´t buy.  I just sat there and stared at them to see if they were moving.

 Ok, I am no damn genious...but aren´t those birds on the cover???

 I think ´bed´ is a forbidden word!

Teas...aren´t you from the West? don´t you know we are crazed by capitalism? money money evil money !!! we only do bed things!!

were they moving?

 oops! I just used it in my previous post...now, who will be the punisher ??

 Mods...please warn this one....she is nothing but trouble!  She is turning our peaceful thread into a mockery!!

We display dead butterflies We have 3 in a glass box, but they were already dead, I picked them as a child from the garden because I didnt want them to be crushed by someones ugly feet.

I dont like butterflies as prints on t-shirts, or as earrings or anything. For some reason that really annoys me. But there are some pretty wings yes

 Elisabeth I guess.

 hahaha.....I have NO powers, Trudy.  I think admin, in his infinate wisdom knows better!

 Sadly, no...

 You can always use the one from your terrace as a threat......

 Umm....such a pot stirrer...  We are only good Amerikans now.....who hate money...

 Who? The people or the butterflies?

 being a good Amerikan is not allowed in this site, you are supposed to be bed bed very bed!!  

 Oh noooooooooo

dont be sad please... i will bring to you to a garden where you ill be able to see the moving and flying ones while you run into flowers

 Teas, I think this is an invitation......

 Be sure you will be able to switch from Ýstanbul to Ýzmir fast. Maybe you could buy some plane tickets in advance. Seems like this Ýs-Ýz thingy is a little problematic

Your house backyard?

 He is inviting Teaschip, not me!

Edit: At the time I was supposed to meet him, I think he said he was in Fethiye. Even more plane tickets needed....

 Oh I keep forgetting it doesnt quote twice anymore. Sorry!

 well destiny my friends...

we would spend some time together during your visits... but i am currently working some hard... so i am flying from one destination to another...

maybe some suitable time...

but garden is for Teaschip only

Good!  cos I am alergic to butterflies and gardens ............................................................. (  )

 I suppose I will be around in Ýzmir long enough. And that city is always good for beer or tea, a cigarette or a simit.. no matter what season.  ahh özledim güzel þehrimi.. 

 Offfffffff you have gone completely off-topic and are ruining my thread...... MODS!!!! MODS!  Where are you?

Delete this person

 I thought that was pretty neutral, offtopic but neutral as the topic was intended to be. Offtopic but neuuuutraahaaal 

 mwahahaha

 Thank you Aenigma for your touching attempt to preserve the integrity of this forum topic!  Bunch of scoundrels!   

Butterflies are beautiful (but not behind glass).....moths however are creepy....make me think of "Silence of the Lambs"!

It is the official site opinon that Turkish butterflies are absolutely the best, the most beautiful and basically you will not find anything that comes even close anywhere else. And, there is NO discussion about it! All differing opinions will be deleted.

omg.. this is so romantic! he will take her on his arms to the garden where she will be running into flowers and she will be watching live butterflies... while he´s watching her play and admiring his princess... Oohhhhhhhhh.......

 Hopefully those flowers are not ROSE BUSHES

    Poor Admin!  I am sure he has never seen your evil streak!!!  I hope you cough up TWO furballs today!

 You´re a big softie Elisabeth, some would hope for a good chase by neighbours dog or something like that lol