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1.       lesluv
722 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:06 am

It is good to be a woman:


1. We got off the Titanic first.
2. We can scare male bosses with the mysterious gynecological disorder excuses.
3. Taxis stop for us.
4. We don´t look like a frog in a blender when dancing.
5. No fashion faux pas we make, could ever rival the Speedo.
6. We don´t have to pass gas to amuse ourselves.
7. If we forget to shave, no one has to know.
8. We can congratulate our teammate without ever touching her rear end.
9. We never have to reach down every so often to make sure our privates are still there.
10. We have the ability to dress ourselves.
11. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.
12. If we marry someone 20 years younger, we are aware that we will look like an idiot.
13. We will never regret piercing our ears.
14. There are times when chocolate really can solve all your problems.
15. We can make comments about how silly men are in their presence because they aren´t listening anyway.


2.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:24 am

lol lol lol

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 07:05 am

 

Quoting lesluv

It is good to be a woman:


1. We got off the Titanic first.

6. We don´t have to pass gas to amuse ourselves.

9. We never have to reach down every so often to make sure our privates are still there.

 

lol lol lol

4.       lesluv
722 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 11:47 am

 

Quoting catwoman

lol lol lol

 

 trust you to pick 6 and 9 to highlight!!!{#lang_emotions_bigsmile}

5.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 11:56 am

 

Quoting lesluv


9. We never have to reach down every so often to make sure our privates are still there.

{#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

6.       lesluv
722 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 12:00 pm

why do they do that!!

7.       amnariel
138 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:40 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

why do they do that!!

 

Safety measures lol

8.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 02:18 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

11. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.

 

 Not sure if this is strictly true....

 

 

lol

9.       amnariel
138 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 02:20 pm

hahahahahahahahahaaaa

ditto lol

10.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 06:04 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Not sure if this is strictly true....

 

 

lol

 

In cases of men of the type ´a-six-pack-under-the-T-shirt´ I try very, very hard NOT to picture them naked.... {#lang_emotions_puking}

11.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 11:58 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Not sure if this is strictly true....

 

 

lol

 

You´re an exception, you sapik!

12.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 10:56 am

 

Quoting catwoman

You´re an exception, you sapik!

 

 Maybe lesluv and I should form a new club

13.       lesluv
722 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 11:04 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Maybe lesluv and I should form a new club

 

 the sapik soriety{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

14.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 11:14 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 the sapik soriety{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 The SS?

15.       lesluv
722 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 11:19 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 The SS?

 

 your new uniform

 

16.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 11:37 am

 

Quoting lesluv

 your new uniform

 

 

 

 Yes I can see that would have "sapik potential" ! lol

17.       lesluv
722 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 11:39 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Quoting lesluv

 your new uniform

 

 

 

 Yes I can see that would have "sapik potential" ! lol

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

18.       amnariel
138 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 03:11 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 the sapik soriety{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 lol

 

but please, it´s merely gutter mind at work

19.       lesluv
722 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:06 pm

 

Quoting amnariel

 lol

 

but please, it´s merely gutter mind at work

 

 definately!!!{#lang_emotions_angel}

20.       amnariel
138 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:28 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 definately!!!{#lang_emotions_angel}

 

but uniforms can stay

 

21.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:30 pm

Its not always so greeat to be a girl!

Sometimes i wish i was a boy! theyre so stupud and think of nothing and dont have not one care in the world!

Why does my brother have like a 2 am curfew and i ahve like aN 11 OR 12! (UNLESS IM WITH HIM!)

you know they say in arabic al majaneen be na3eem means the crazy people are in bliss

so truee!!!!

22.       amnariel
138 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:38 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

Its not always so greeat to be a girl!

Sometimes i wish i was a boy! theyre so stupud and think of nothing and dont have not one care in the world!

Why does my brother have like a 2 am curfew and i ahve like aN 11 OR 12! (UNLESS IM WITH HIM!)

you know they say in arabic al majaneen be na3eem means the crazy people are in bliss

so truee!!!!

 

Even if my curfew was 9:30 I would still not want to be a guy

Sorry

No elaboration can change my mind  

23.       lesluv
722 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:43 pm

 

Quoting amnariel

Even if my curfew was 9:30 I would still not want to be a guy

Sorry

No elaboration can change my mind  

 

 although i had strict upbringing and loathed the double standards that existed between me and my three brothers; i would never ever wish to be a man but then i live in a country where I am treated as an equal...... the story my be different if i lived elsewhere

24.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:46 pm

 

Quoting amnariel

Even if my curfew was 9:30 I would still not want to be a guy

Sorry

No elaboration can change my mind  

 

It depends on my mood!

Now i feel like being a guy.. but maybe  aftre 5 minutes.... U never know!!!

But there are also lots of bad things about being a guy tasht fro sure!

But we go thorugh soo much! The problem is we have feelings, ahd they dont! I feel like theyre always one mood all the time, and right now i dont wanna feel anytyhing lol! actually no lol, its beconme kinda automatice for me to say lol, even in regular life i just say lol, lol!

25.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 04:51 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

 although i had strict upbringing and loathed the double standards that existed between me and my three brothers; i would never ever wish to be a man but then i live in a country where I am treated as an equal...... the story my be different if i lived elsewhere

*sigh* here we go again... but thos time i wont says anything! Im rellay not int he mood for anythign now!

 

.............................. 

 

26.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 05:07 pm

Quote:

Its not always so greeat to be a girl!

 

 

I agree...it seems much simpler to be a guy..{#lang_emotions_wink}

27.       Trudy
7887 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 05:13 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I agree...it seems much simpler to be a guy..{#lang_emotions_wink}

 

 Nah, only when there is no toilet/cafe/shop etc available but just a tree or something...

28.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 06:26 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Nah, only when there is no toilet/cafe/shop etc available but just a tree or something...

 

 But just think no monthly episodes, hotflashes, insomnia either.....and most importantly not having to wear a bra!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

29.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 07:03 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 But just think no monthly episodes, hotflashes, insomnia either.....and most importantly not having to wear a bra!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

IMAGINE!!!!!!!

*sigh* but what does insomnia have to do with anyhting?

30.       teaschip
3870 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 09:24 pm

 

Quoting doudi94

IMAGINE!!!!!!!

*sigh* but what does insomnia have to do with anyhting?

 

 I´m not sure...I haven´t experienced it yet.  But apparently this can be one of the side effects when you go through the change.

31.       amnariel
138 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 09:38 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 I´m not sure...I haven´t experienced it yet.  But apparently this can be one of the side effects when you go through the change.

 

You mean the Change lol

 

32.       Temora
132 posts
 30 Oct 2008 Thu 10:30 pm

Adam is talking to God

God why did you create Eve so smooth and soft?

god-"to make u want her"

Adam-"and why did you create her so attractive?"

God-to make you want her

Adam

"but why u created her so stupid?

God-to make her want YOU!!!!

 

Thank u God!!!!!

33.       amnariel
138 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 11:15 am

 

Quoting Temora

 

Thank u God!!!!!

 

For keeping Eve busy somewhere?

If she heard this conversation....

34.       bod
5999 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:31 am

 

Quoting lesluv

why do they do that!!

 

Being male - I have never understood it either!!!

BTW.....the only time I do so is if my underwear is not providing sufficient support in which case it is not a case of ´checking´ - just a case of ´adjusting......

35.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 11:48 am

 

Quoting cynicmystic

It is just great to be a man:

 

1. We play with our selves non-stop period - and thanks for the internet for the stimulation. Otherwise it would have to be grandpa´s paperback playboy collection.

2. We save girls off the Titanic. We are heroic.

3. Taxis never stop for us, but we catch them at the red light anyway...

4. We don´t have the goodie goodies to shake silly. So we look funny when we dance. (but give me the boobies and the backside lipid, and I will booty shake for you.)

5, We invented the bikini, the high heel, as well as the thong. Visible panty lines are our speciality and we dress the chickies just as we want them to be dressed. Less is more & transparent is the new black.

6. We think girls find us terribly attractive when we pass gas & kakkle to death. We ingest hummus before we gas though, it is all about the flavour.

7. We don´t have to have brazilian waxing... We demand the girls to do so though. Smooth as a baby´s bum is our gender motto. No hippies with enough hair to knit a sweater as far as we are concerned.

8. We congratulate our teammmates by touching their backs as long as they are football players... Otherwise it is a no no...

9. We have the ability to undress girls. We first dress them through gay fasion designers, and undress them through macho acts... We are experts at that. (Refer to Justin Timberlake - he says he will have you naked by the end of the song.) That´s why we seranade btw - for the nookie.

10. We can never talk to the opposite sex without picturing them naked. It is in our nature, we just peel those cuties with our eyes like ripe bananas. Then we go on to tell our boddies about the nookie conquest. 

11. We marry someone 20 years older and we call it the milf factor.

12. We will never regret getting pierced as long as it is about Pierce Brosnan. We also assume that girls with tongue rings are good at oral. Yet to be proven, if you ask me...

13. There are times that chocolate can lead to the nookie. Hence, the flavoured condoms.

14. We can make comments about how silly women are because they just love it... They just luv us silly boys being ourselves farting all over the place harrassing all those nookies.

 

 

 

 It was unnecessary for you to post your "thoughts" on women Cynicmistic because you have already shown us what you feel about them in your posts.

 

I found it very interesting that when Femme made a joke about your photographs,  it sparked off an onslaught of derogatory sexual posts by you.  Perhaps you dont realise it but men who use this way of dealing with conflict with women fit the psychological profile of rapists and wife beaters.  I realise that much of your hatred is cultural but it can also occur when boys are forced to stop showing affection to their mothers at an early age and "be a man".

 

The women (including Meltem) who thought your posts funny perpetuate this misogyny and help confirm your narrow minded view that women are merely sexual objects who should not step out of line.  The ones who object you call "prudes".



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36.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:10 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

The women (including Meltem) who thought your posts funny perpetuate this mysogyny and help confirm your narrow minded view that women are merely sexual objects who should not step out of line.  The ones who object you call "prudes".

 

Haha again you made me laugh aenigma.Your observations are quiete shallow.

And Where´s your sense of humour?

 

Everyone has different values, and points of views.

 

In my point of view his such attack on femmeous was funny.

 

It was like Ali G commenting on our female Borat!

 

Yet it didn´t change the fact that they should get deleted.

 

I don´t care your negative comments about me. As I see your insight lacks depth.  Some people need to make others seem immoral to feel more moral.

37.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:12 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

Haha again you made me laugh aenigma.Your observations are quiete shallow.

And Where´s your sense of humour?

 

Everyone has different values, and points of views.

 

In my point of view his such attack on femmeous was funny.

 

It was like Ali G commenting on our female Borat!

 

Yet it didn´t change the fact that they should get deleted.

 

I don´t care your negative comments about me. As I see your insight lacks depth.  Some people need to make others seem immoral to feel more moral.

 

 Sorry if you find posts where someone calls another´s genitals as stinking like fish (just because she dared hurt his pride) then you have a strange sense of humour Meltem.  It has nothing to do with defending Femmeous (who is more than capable of doing that herself) and if she wanted to describe Cynicmistics penis in the same way I would object also.

 

You can take the girl out of Turkey, but you can´t take Turkey out of the girl...

38.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:16 pm

 

Quoting mltm

In my point of view his such attack on femmeous was funny.

 

It was like Ali G commenting on our female Borat!

 

Yet it didn´t change the fact that they should get deleted.

 

 lol lol now YOU made me laugh! lol lol lol

39.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:21 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Sorry if you find posts where someone calls another´s genitals as stinking like fish (just because she dared hurt his pride) then you have a strange sense of humour Meltem.  It has nothing to do with defending Femmeous (who is more than capable of doing that herself) and if she wanted to describe Cynicmistics penis in the same way I would object also.

 

You can take the girl out of Turkey, but you can´t take Turkey out of the girl...

 

If you want, do not ridicule yourself more aenigma.

 

His saying this was funny, but did I say I approved it?

 

Yet, it disgusts me when you say all these.

40.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:23 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Sorry if you find posts where someone calls another´s genitals as stinking like fish (just because she dared hurt his pride) then you have a strange sense of humour Meltem.  It has nothing to do with defending Femmeous (who is more than capable of doing that herself) and if she wanted to describe Cynicmistics penis in the same way I would object also.

 

You can take the girl out of Turkey, but you can´t take Turkey out of the girl...

 

 sorry, canim, i wasnt offended by chipmunk at all. would you get offended if he told you the same? he is just a little boy. i think he has never smelt the rotten fish. he just barks at anyone.

he is not a problem to me. my problem is libra, alameda, canli who were happy out of his rude comments.

41.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:25 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 sorry, canim, i wasnt offended by chipmunk at all. would you get offended if he told you the same? he is just a little boy. i think he has never smelt the rotten fish. he just barks at anyone.

he is not a problem to me. my problem is libra, alameda, canli who were happy out of his rude comments.

 

 Yes I saw that you were not offended. However, many women are offended when this kind of demeaning sexual reference is used to put us in our place.

 

I dont defend you, I defend women...

42.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:26 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

Yet, it disgusts me when you say all these.

 

 Good... perhaps you have an idea of what REAL liberated women feel when this misogynistic crap is uttered and people like you laugh at it

43.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:29 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

 

His saying this was funny, but did I say I approved it?

 

what he said was primitive rather than funny.

but you and i  have different mentalities.

 

44.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:30 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Good... perhaps you have an idea of what REAL liberated women feel when this misogynistic crap is uttered and people like you laugh at it

 

So you feel yourself like a "REAL" liberated woman.

 

Has anyone talked you about being humble as well?

 

This kind of real liberated woman usually need to degrade other women that do not fit her narrow world in every occasion to feel "more liberated".

 

It more sounds to me that you have complexes.

45.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:31 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

His saying this was funny, but did I say I approved it?

 

Is it just disgusting sexual put-downs you find funny?  Or can we look forward to you laughing at religious/cultural ones in future too?

46.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:32 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Yes I saw that you were not offended. However, many women are offended when this kind of demeaning sexual reference is used to put us in our place.

 

I dont defend you, I defend women...

 

 ok ok

i didnt realize that.

but you see women like mltm canli libra peacetrain or alameda didnt get offended, they rather enjoyed it. are they women? what do you think? what makes them happy when idiots like chipmunk humiliate women? do they have psychological problems?

47.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:33 pm

It wasn´t his posts that were funny, it was the spectacle of Cynicmystic and thehandsom, two grown men,  arguing "in the playground" that was funny.  It always amuses me, the way Turkish TC men seem to get so offended and insulted so very quickly and begin to scream like banshees or cry like babies.  The obscenity that C aimed at Femmeous was disgusting and wasn´t funny, but there were other facets that were.

 

As for C´s post here on this thread, it seems to me it wasn´t his opinion but a deliberate act to wind certain people up and I´m afraid he´s already hooked you Aenigma. Job done as far as he´s concerned.  He´s found an irritation and he´s inflaming it quite successfully.  No I don´t agree with that  and those particular posts of his are best  ignored for what they are, rubbish.

 

 I think C´s political posts are extremely well put together and I agree with his main argument regarding  thehandsom, that (in the politics forum) he posts material in order to attract heated debate from certain other members.  If H wants to do that let him, and if people want to challenge him about it, let them too.  H may dispute this charge  but it´s the way I interpret his political comment.  It´s not so much his views but the way he goes about goading then attempting to ridicule.

 

Having said all of that, I enjoy reading many of the arguments that H participates in because it gives me, a non Turk, an incite into the history of the conflicts in Turkey.  It doesn´t help me to make any judgement about these conflicts though as there seems to be so much evidence that can be produced for either argument. 

 

  As I read the exchanges it was the visions I conjured up in my own mind that amused.  Two silly, egotistical men determined to have the last word. 

 

Perhaps there may also have been some private pickling going on.  Liver pickling.

48.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:36 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

So you feel yourself like a "REAL" liberated woman.

 

Has anyone talked you about being humble as well?

 

This kind of real liberated woman usually need to degrade other women that do not fit her narrow world in every occasion to feel "more liberated".

 

It more sounds to me that you have complexes.

 you dont know what it is to be liberated or free. you dont fit into democracy. you are limited thus you react and speak as you do often.

it reminds me hairy´s saying about a donkey that has big beautiful eyes, but still a dnokey even in the west.

 

49.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:36 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 ok ok

i didnt realize that.

but you see women like mltm canli libra peacetrain or alameda didnt get offended, they rather enjoyed it. are they women? what do you think? what makes them happy when idiots like chipmunk humiliate women? do they have psychological problems?

 

 Well maybe SOME of them do! lol

Sorry, but women who enjoy all the benefits of equality but continue to perpetuate stereotypical ideas about gender, deserve to be put in burkas, lose their vote, be beaten by their husbands, raped and enjoy all the other benefits of a male dominated society

50.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:39 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

 

In my point of view his such attack on femmeous was funny.

 

 

 It really wasn´t funny at all, no matter who it was aimed at.  Even if femmeous wasn´t offended it was the right decision to delete, as were the references to a sexual act.

51.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:39 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

It wasn´t his posts that were funny, it was the spectacle of Cynicmystic and thehandsom, two grown men,  arguing "in the playground" that was funny.  It always amuses me, the way Turkish TC men seem to get so offended and insulted so very quickly and begin to scream like banshees or cry like babies.  The obscenity that C aimed at Femmeous was disgusting and wasn´t funny, but there were other facets that were.

 

As for C´s post here on this thread, it seems to me it wasn´t his opinion but a deliberate act to wind certain people up and I´m afraid he´s already hooked you Aenigma. Job done as far as he´s concerned.  He´s found an irritation and he´s inflaming it quite successfully.  No I don´t agree with that  and those particular posts of his are best  ignored for what they are, rubbish.

 

 I think C´s political posts are extremely well put together and I agree with his main argument regarding  thehandsom, that (in the politics forum) he posts material in order to attract heated debate from certain other members.  If H wants to do that let him, and if people want to challenge him about it, let them too.  H may dispute this charge  but it´s the way I interpret his political comment.  It´s not so much his views but the way he goes about goading then attempting to ridicule.

 

Having said all of that, I enjoy reading many of the arguments that H participates in because it gives me, a non Turk, an incite into the history of the conflicts in Turkey.  It doesn´t help me to make any judgement about these conflicts though as there seems to be so much evidence that can be produced for either argument. 

 

  As I read the exchanges it was the visions I conjured up in my own mind that amused.  Two silly, egotistical men determined to have the last word. 

 

Perhaps there may also have been some private pickling going on.  Liver pickling.

 

I am refering to deleted posts Peacetrain.  It has nothing to do with any arguing between theHandsom and him.  Until yesterday, I found Cynicmystic´s posts good reading (whether I agreed or not) and funny to read their arguments too.

 

52.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:41 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

You can take the girl out of Turkey, but you can´t take Turkey out of the girl...

 

 You seem to be making some kind of statement about Turkish people here and not a very nice one.  {#lang_emotions_rant}

53.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:42 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 You seem to be making some kind of statement about Turkish people here and not a very nice one.  {#lang_emotions_rant}

 

 I will take your point on board when I see you defending comments about Western women here...

54.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:43 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Yes I saw that you were not offended. However, many women are offended when this kind of demeaning sexual reference is used to put us in our place.

 

I dont defend you, I defend women...

 

 This I agree with. I was trying to think of how to put this point across.  Thanks

55.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:44 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Well maybe SOME of them do! lol

Sorry, but women who enjoy all the benefits of equality but continue to perpetuate stereotypical ideas about gender, deserve to be put in burkas, lose their vote, be beaten by their husbands, raped and enjoy all the other benefits of a male dominated society

 

 +1

well said

 

i often watch russian humour shows (i love it) where they primitively humiliate women. and women participate as sex objects. and they altogether laugh at those primitve jokes. i just ask myself questions why dont women see the problem there?

56.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:47 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Good... perhaps you have an idea of what REAL liberated women feel when this misogynistic crap is uttered and people like you laugh at it

 

I´m repeating it in case it can remind you that sometimes you need to make more effort to get more insight.

 

I did not laugh at it saying "ohhh how funny it´s, I want more more" Laughing is another thing, the background of it and why you find funny is another thing. Then when people see someone falling down in front of cameras, they are in fact such evill people who take pleasure from people getting harm.

 

It was not the words he used I found funny, but it was him using it against "femmeous" was funny.Diamond cuts diamond.

 

And it was disgusting, but it was about "smell" I cannot get how you see it as a attack against all women and find an occasion to show how much more "liberated woman" you are free from men oppression.

I would agree more if you found it offensive, but you find it offensive against women. Are you obsessed?

57.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:47 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 This I agree with. I was trying to think of how to put this point across.  Thanks

 

 A great day indeed! lol

58.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:47 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I will take your point on board when I see you defending comments about Western women here...

 thank you

 

59.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:47 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 

but you see women like mltm canli libra peacetrain or alameda didnt get offended,

 

 I think I´ve already documented what I did and didn´t find funny and the references to fish and sexual acts were definitely not funny.  Now the donkey references were very funny.  And also thehandsom as a non native English speaker, sometimes has an endearing turn of phrase which makes his posts all the more interesting to read. (this is not a criticism of H btw).

60.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:48 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

I´m repeating it in case it can remind you that sometimes you need to make more effort to get more insight.

 

I did not laugh at it saying "ohhh how funny it´s, I want more more" Laughing is another thing, the background of it and why you find funny is another thing. Then when people see someone falling down in front of cameras, they are in fact such evill people who take pleasure from people getting harm.

 

It was not the words he used I found funny, but it was him using it against "femmeous" was funny.Diamond cuts diamond.

 

And it was disgusting, but it was about "smell" I cannot get how you see it as a attack against all women and find an occasion to show how much more "liberated woman" you are free from men oppression.

I would agree more if you found it offensive, but you find it offensive against women. Are you obsessed?

 

 All I see here is blah blah blah while you try to take a backwards step from your original comments... lol

 

You are now even saying you were not laughing?  Yet you accused me of having no sense of humour about it! lol

 

You are funny!



Edited (2/22/2009) by TheAenigma

61.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:51 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

I am refering to deleted posts Peacetrain.  It has nothing to do with any arguing between theHandsom and him.  Until yesterday, I found Cynicmystic´s posts good reading (whether I agreed or not) and funny to read their arguments too.

 

 Ok , point taken.

 

62.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:54 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 All I see here is blah blah blah while you try to take a backwards step from your original comments... lol

 

You are now even saying you were not laughing?  Yet you accused me of having no sense of humour about it! lol

 

You are funny!

DDDD Aenigma.

 

I have no more words for you.

 

 

I was doubting about you, but now I´m sure

 

63.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:55 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

I have no more words for you.

 

Haha yes I know

Feeling defeated? lol

64.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:57 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

I was doubting about you, but now I´m sure

 

 

 Hahah you ran out of argument now, so you start to attack my sanity instead! lol

Perhaps you would also like to use sexually demeaning words to try to make yourself feel less humiliated?

65.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:59 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigm

 

You can take the girl out of Turkey, but you can´t take Turkey out of the girl...

 

This was the part where I felt most sorry for herself.

 

This one I didn´t even find worth replying, but it demonstares very well the limits of her insight, and her small world.

66.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:01 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

Haha yes I know

Feeling defeated? lol

 

Ley´s say it this way. I´m sure it will make you look at the mirror and say "wow, today I´m a stronger woman"

 

All the arguments are there aenigma for the eyes who can see.

67.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:01 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

This was the part where I felt most sorry for herself.

 

This one I didn´t even find worth replying, but it demonstares very well the limits of her insight, and her small world.

 

 Finally we found something that offends you? {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

You ashamed of your Turkishness?

68.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:05 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I will take your point on board when I see you defending comments about Western women here...

 

 Sorry but I don´t quite understand what your point is.  I understood you to be commenting about a nation not a gender.

 

You seem to be making a comment about me and what I do/do not comment about, which is effectively putting words into my mouth and trying to make readers build an incorrect view of my views. 

 

Everyone on this site has their own little ´pet´ issues that they like to comment on.  That´s not to say they agree or disagree with every other comment on the site that they don´t address. 

 

You have no way of knowing what my views are on feminist issues because I simply won´t give stupid men, on this site, the pleasure of thinking they have hit a nerve.  That´s the way I deal with it and you are welcome to deal with it in your way. I don´t think I´ve ever criticised your views on womens issues.   If I have strong issues I want to deal with I visit appropriate sites and I have posted about a few of those sites here.

 

In the past, you have made comments about ´silence´ being a stand against the points you have made.  You fail to realise that it could just be the opposite.  Then again, it could just be that these debates aren´t the primary interest for people on this particular site.

 

It seems you are not immune to stereotyping people yourself.



Edited (2/22/2009) by peacetrain

69.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:07 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Finally we found something that offends you? {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

You ashamed of your Turkishness?

 

Did you really think that it offended me?

 

I felt sorry for you aenigma,

 

"the blonde british liberated woman who needs to defeat  men at the lights with her sports car in order to prove them how an undefeatable woman she´s"

 

If I were so ashamed of being turkish, I would not hang a turkish flag in my room.

 

 

 



Edited (2/22/2009) by mltm

70.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:11 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 Sorry but I don´t quite understand what your point is.  I understood you to be commenting about a nation not a gender.

 

 Yes I was ... but of course I don´t really mean it, but it was interesting for me to see that this upset Meltem more than Cynicmystics comments about women!

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

You have no way of knowing what my views are on feminist issues because I simply won´t give stupid men, on this site, the pleasure of thinking they have hit a nerve. 

 

 OK.  However, I do not have any pride about letting anyone know that they have "hit a nerve" - why should that bother me?  It is a discussion site after all.

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

  

It seems you are not immune to stereotyping people yourself.

 

 

 

  Hahaha fair point

 

 

71.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:13 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

"the blonde british liberated woman who needs to defeat  men at the lights with her sports car in order to prove them how an undefeatable woman she´s"

 

 Ouh thank you lol

Lovely description...

72.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:18 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

"the blonde british liberated woman who needs to defeat  men at the lights with her sports car in order to prove them how an undefeatable woman she´s"

  

 

 I may add this to my CV - I love it {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

73.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:21 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

Yes I was ... but of course I don´t really mean it, but it was interesting for me to see that this upset Meltem more than Cynicmystics comments about women!

 

 "ofcourse you didn´t mean it". Are you fooling us?

 

 

If you noticed, I didn´t reply it until peacetrain reacted to it. I simply ignored it.

 

And now it shows that how you were looking a way to "degrade me more" in your opinion.

 

If cynicmystics comments upsets you so much, I suggest you to have a ride with your sports car.

 

74.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:22 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I may add this to my CV - I love it {#lang_emotions_super_cool}

 

 Ofcourse you love it, because it´s you.

75.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:23 pm

Quote:TheAenigma

 OK.  However, I do not have any pride about letting anyone know that they have "hit a nerve" - why should that bother me?  It is a discussion site after all.

OK, here goes then:

 

I object to the way thehandsom used references to donkeys in a negative way. He also appeared to engender them (female) from the description he gave.  What would have been wrong in saying that wherever the donkey is, it is "still a stubborn old mule" ? 

76.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:24 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

 Ofcourse you love it, because it´s you.

 

{#lang_emotions_super_cool}

77.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:25 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

Quote:TheAenigma

 OK.  However, I do not have any pride about letting anyone know that they have "hit a nerve" - why should that bother me?  It is a discussion site after all.

OK, here goes then:

 

I object to the way thehandsom used references to donkeys in a negative way. He also appeared to engender them (female) from the description he gave.  What would have been wrong in saying that wherever the donkey is, it is "still a stubborn old mule" ? 

 

 Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

Well done PT - you "came out" lol

78.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:35 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

Well done PT - you "came out" lol

 

 Oh blast. I meant to come over as a donkeyist then ended with a feminist comment.

79.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:42 pm

the difference between me and limitted mltm is that if anyone calls mltm´s body part as rotten fish i would be shocked and comment against that, but mltm would have fun out of primitive jokes.

mltm, you are so primitive.

80.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:42 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

Has anyone talked you about being humble as well?

 

Humble? Why on earth should a woman be humble? She - general - can be proud of anything she likes and shout that out loud. If you don´t see that, you are not liberated as you think you are!

81.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:43 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 Oh blast. I meant to come over as a donkeyist then ended with a feminist comment.

 

 ah pt, you often dont know what you are talking about. you are so easy to checkmate you.

82.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:44 pm

 ah, poor you, when lacking arguments you pick on someone´s english. pathetic.

Quoting peacetrain

Quote:TheAenigma

 OK.  However, I do not have any pride about letting anyone know that they have "hit a nerve" - why should that bother me?  It is a discussion site after all.

OK, here goes then:

 

I object to the way thehandsom used references to donkeys in a negative way. He also appeared to engender them (female) from the description he gave.  What would have been wrong in saying that wherever the donkey is, it is "still a stubborn old mule" ? 

 

 

83.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:51 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 ah, poor you, when lacking arguments you pick on someone´s english. pathetic.

 

 

 

 Haven´t a clue what point you´re making.  (Hope that perpetuates your opinion of me )

84.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:52 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 ah pt . . . you are so easy to checkmate you.

 

 Glad to be of service

85.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:56 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

the difference between me and limitted mltm is that if anyone calls mltm´s body part as rotten fish i would be shocked and comment against that, but mltm would have fun out of primitive jokes.

mltm, you are so primitive.

 

 Please femmeous do not feel anything against any comments made about me.

I don´t want to listen to your differences. Ofcourse we are very very different, even not comparable.

 

AND I´m that honest to tell the truth. I felt shocked and found it funny.And I do not care about your opinions about me finding it funny.

 

Someone just descended to your level and answered you in your level.

 

At the end of the day, humankind is not very different from its primitive ascendants.

 

So, primitive jokes about primitive people made me laugh in a primitive way.

86.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 01:56 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 Haven´t a clue what point you´re making.  (Hope that perpetuates your opinion of me )

 

 She got me there too {#lang_emotions_unsure}

87.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:00 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Humble? Why on earth should a woman be humble? She - general - can be proud of anything she likes and shout that out loud. If you don´t see that, you are not liberated as you think you are!

 

 You can be humble in a lot of different ways. And it has nothing to do with being a woman or a man.

 

Shouting out loud in every occasion that "you are a liberated woman" just emphasizes that you are not in fact as liberated as you think.

88.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:01 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

Shouting out loud in every occasion that "you are a liberated woman" just emphasizes that you are not in fact as liberated as you think.

 

 I think this was the first time I ever said it! lol

89.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:02 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

 She got me there too {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

 Me too

90.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:07 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 Haven´t a clue what point you´re making.  (Hope that perpetuates your opinion of me )

 

 Sorry, pt, my fault and beg you a pardon.

lol

91.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:07 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 

 

 You can be humble in a lot of different ways. And it has nothing to do with being a woman or a man.

 

Shouting out loud in every occasion that "you are a liberated woman" just emphasizes that you are not in fact as liberated as you think.

 

 Humbleness is crap. Invented by men, maintained by men and women to keep women down.

92.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:08 pm

 not commenting on this. but i will catch you in future.

Quoting mltm

 

 

 Please femmeous do not feel anything against any comments made about me.

I don´t want to listen to your differences. Ofcourse we are very very different, even not comparable.

 

AND I´m that honest to tell the truth. I felt shocked and found it funny.And I do not care about your opinions about me finding it funny.

 

Someone just descended to your level and answered you in your level.

 

At the end of the day, humankind is not very different from its primitive ascendants.

 

So, primitive jokes about primitive people made me laugh in a primitive way.

 

 

93.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:10 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Humbleness is crap. Invented by men, maintained by men and women to keep women down.

 

 hey, darlink, wrong. being humble is good. though its used wrongly. people like mltm ask others to be humble but they fail applying to their own life.

94.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:14 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 Sorry, pt, my fault and beg you a pardon.

lol

 

 Aptal! lol lol lol

95.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:15 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 hey, darlink, wrong. being humble is good. though its used wrongly. people like mltm ask others to be humble but they fail applying to their own life.

 

 Can you show me how to do that, femme? lol lol

96.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 02:17 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Can you show me how to do that, femme? lol lol

 

 hmmmm.....

97.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:27 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Humbleness is crap. Invented by men, maintained by men and women to keep women down.

 

 

God god god.... Gimme patience

98.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:30 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Can you show me how to do that, femme? lol lol

 

 while cooking i had some nice thoughts about being humble. now i forgot.

next time i cook i will record my thoughts.

99.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:32 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 while cooking i had some nice thoughts about being humble. now i forgot.

next time i cook i will record my thoughts.

 

 Dementia?

100.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:32 pm

however i dont understand why mltm said about humbleness. what does humbleness have to do with being free or liberated?

one doesnt exclude the other.

101.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:34 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

however i dont understand why mltm said about humbleness. what does humbleness have to do with being free or liberated?

one doesnt exclude the other.

 

 It depends on your take on the word "humble". It can be associated with servitude, but also can mean not being boastful

102.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:39 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 It depends on your take on the word "humble". It can be associated with servitude, but also can mean not being boastful

 

 i like the second meaning

serving others from time to time is fine, but not on a daily basis that others take granted without giving a least thought to it.

103.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 07:06 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

It is just great to be a man:

 

 

good to see a new wave sexist boy around here.. for your reference -- all your such posts will be deleted.

 

Forum Rule #8

8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist, sexist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats.



Edited (2/22/2009) by catwoman

104.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:04 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Forum Rule #8

8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist, sexist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats.

 

I agree cynicmysitc´s post did go over...but the original post in this thread was a provacative and sexist post. What if it were reversed? It´s insulting to men...actually, it´s insulting to women too. What goes around comes around. I mean, really....look at these. I don´t find them funny at all.

4. We don´t look like a frog in a blender when dancing.
10. We have the ability to dress ourselves.
11. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.
15. We can make comments about how silly men are in their presence because they aren´t listening anyway

105.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:14 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

I agree cynicmysitc´s post did go over...but the original post in this thread was a provacative and sexist post. What if it were reversed? It´s insulting to men...actually, it´s insulting to women too. What goes around comes around. I mean, really....look at these. I don´t find them funny at all.

4. We don´t look like a frog in a blender when dancing.
10. We have the ability to dress ourselves.
11. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.
15. We can make comments about how silly men are in their presence because they aren´t listening anyway

 

 I agree. I hate sexist jokes.  However, I think you will agree that, while we still live in such a male dominated world, its a tad more acceptable

106.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:18 pm

alameda and her old songs.

 

people, how dare you joke about men?

 

107.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:18 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

I agree cynicmysitc´s post did go over...but the original post in this thread was a provacative and sexist post. What if it were reversed? It´s insulting to men...actually, it´s insulting to women too. What goes around comes around. I mean, really....look at these. I don´t find them funny at all.

4. We don´t look like a frog in a blender when dancing.
10. We have the ability to dress ourselves.
11. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.
15. We can make comments about how silly men are in their presence because they aren´t listening anyway

 

Well 4,10 and 15 are certainly true of my husband!  - I thought it was quite funny and in lots of threads on this post men have given as good as they have got.  But cynics post was aimed to annoy on the back of his earlier posts in other threads - thats my opinion anyway



Edited (2/22/2009) by lady in red [added text]

108.       mltm
3690 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:22 pm

I agree with alameda on this.

 

If this kind of jokes will not be tolerated and will be classified as sexist, then it should apply to jokes about both genders, or we need to modify the rules to "sexism against women". Otherwise, the rules itself will be sexist.

109.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:23 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

Well 4,10 and 15 are certainly true of my husband!  - I thought it was quite funny and in lots of threads on this post men have given as good as they have got.  But cynics post was aimed to annoy on the back of his earlier posts in other threads - thats my opinion anyway

 

 come on. its just alameda had to defend her male tc friends. im 100% sure she considers men superior to women.

she will always protect men. it is coded in her mentality along with her religion.

110.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:24 pm

 

Quoting mltm

I agree with alameda on this.

 

If this kind of jokes will not be tolerated and will be classified as sexist, then it should apply to jokes about both genders, or we need to modify the rules to "sexism against women". Otherwise, the rules itself will be sexist.

 

 do you really think that cynics post sounded like a joke to you?

111.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:26 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

Well 4,10 and 15 are certainly true of my husband!  - I thought it was quite funny and in lots of threads on this post men have given as good as they have got.  But cynics post was aimed to annoy on the back of his earlier posts in other threads - thats my opinion anyway

 

Yes, but a bif difference is the fact he was reacting to an insult...there is a difference. Different people have different tolerances to abusive behaviour. If you don´t like being insulted, don´t throw them around. "What goes around comes around. "

 

I live in CA, and have had extensive training in harassment issues...and I can tell you, something like this posted in a work place could easily be an expensive court case.

112.       bydand
755 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:29 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

good to see a new wave sexist boy around here.. for your reference -- all your such posts will be deleted.

 

Forum Rule #8

8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist, sexist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats.

 

 This is a bit rich coming from you catwoman. You have been peddling anti male sexist propaganda on here for years. I remember one contribution which even embarassed another prominent feminist here.

113.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:33 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 This is a bit rich coming from you catwoman. You have been peddling anti male sexist propaganda on here for years. I remember one contribution which even embarassed another prominent feminist here.

 

You are not exactly an authority on this issue, but you have the right to disagree. Unfortunately you will have to deal with it.

114.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:34 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 This is a bit rich coming from you catwoman. You have been peddling anti male sexist propaganda on here for years. I remember one contribution which even embarassed another prominent feminist here.

 

 what makes a feminist a feminist? have you ever given a thought to that?

115.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:35 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 This is a bit rich coming from you catwoman. You have been peddling anti male sexist propaganda on here for years. I remember one contribution which even embarassed another prominent feminist here.

 

 Put up with it for another thousand years, and perhaps we will be even, and take your view on board...

116.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:37 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

I agree cynicmysitc´s post did go over...but the original post in this thread was a provacative and sexist post. What if it were reversed? It´s insulting to men...actually, it´s insulting to women too. What goes around comes around. I mean, really....look at these. I don´t find them funny at all.

4. We don´t look like a frog in a blender when dancing.
10. We have the ability to dress ourselves.
11. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked.
15. We can make comments about how silly men are in their presence because they aren´t listening anyway

 

As with everything else, there´s a difference between joking about a dancing frog, and ´joking´ about using and abusing women. These two are not even comparable. If anybody said anything even closely as racist as cynic´s post was sexist, few people would have issues discerning how offensive it is, especially that we live in a sexist and racist world.

117.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:44 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

As with everything else, there´s a difference between joking about a dancing frog, and ´joking´ about using and abusing women. These two are not even comparable. If anybody said anything even closely as racist as cynic´s post was sexist, few people would have issues discerning how offensive it is, especially that we live in a sexist and racist world.

 

 Perfectly expressed

118.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:46 pm

what makes me laugh is that none of these sensitive beings like alameda, canli, bydand, libra or mltm has expressed a tiny protest or digust when the very cynic was spewing such hatred and personal attacks on everyone around. opposite they enjoyed him.

not mentioning canli who just ignores posts that contain curses.

119.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 08:57 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Put up with it for another thousand years, and perhaps we will be even, and take your view on board...

 

 thank you canim. thousand years arent enough.

120.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:05 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

what makes me laugh is that none of these sensitive beings like alameda, canli, bydand, libra or mltm has expressed a tiny protest or digust when the very cynic was spewing such hatred and personal attacks on everyone around. opposite they enjoyed him.

not mentioning canli who just ignores posts that contain curses.

 

Oh femm....Get real....you know you provoked him! You followed him around multiple threads harassing him and lowering the level of discourse. He warned you numerous times, but you kept on....

 

Oh..........the bullfighter doesn´t complain when he´s gored by the bull.....he knows he provoked him.

 

You are quite masterful at it.

121.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:12 pm

 now, alameda lol

yesterday morning i logged in and the rumours were in my pm. till that time i had nothing to do with cynic.

and pls, dont lie about that i followed him. he accused me for things i didnt do.

 

now, alameda, my dear super hypocrite i ever met, prove your claims above, because i clearly remember what happent between me and cynic. i remember every detail.

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Oh femm....Get real....you know you provoked him! You followed him around multiple threads harassing him and lowering the level of discourse. He warned you numerous times, but you kept on....

 

Oh..........the bullfighter doesn´t complain when he´s gored by the bull.....he knows he provoked him.

 

You are quite masterful at it.

 

 

122.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:19 pm

Quoting femmeous

he is not a problem to me. my problem is libra, alameda, canli who were happy out of his rude comments.

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 ok ok

i didnt realize that.

but you see women like mltm canli libra peacetrain or alameda didnt get offended, they rather enjoyed it. are they women? what do you think? what makes them happy when idiots like chipmunk humiliate women? do they have psychological problems?

Quoting femmeous

what makes me laugh is that none of these sensitive beings like alameda, canli, bydand, libra or mltm has expressed a tiny protest or digust when the very cynic was spewing such hatred and personal attacks on everyone around. opposite they enjoyed him.

not mentioning canli who just ignores posts that contain curses.

 

Awwwww, i didnt know im always in your thoughts that way...well, actually i knew you alway think of me but that much ...awww im flattered

Seems you have missed me alot

You have every right i believe, bad me, i havent joint you in nice exchange opps, i mean nice debate for some time !

 

Ok look,

Ý havent seen cynic post here, i saw yours ´´all of you´´ and thought you were talking about the nice exchange you had with him yesterday

And i thought that wasnt fair, because you both have crossed the line, not only him and not only you.

When i saw his post here today it was already late, i pm´ed LÝR about it and we let it as it is now .

 

Quoting femmeous

someone delete my double post

 

Done!

123.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:31 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 now, alameda lol

yesterday morning i logged in and the rumours were in my pm. till that time i had nothing to do with cynic.

and pls, dont lie about that i followed him. he accused me for things i didnt do.

 

now, alameda, my dear super hypocrite i ever met, prove your claims above, because i clearly remember what happent between me and cynic. i remember every detail.

 

 

As do I....having followed it. I don´t have to prove anything. It´s here for all with eyes to see. All they have to do is follow your posts.....

 

124.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:32 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 

 

Awwwww, i didnt know im always in your thoughts that way...well, actually i knew you alway think of me but that much ...awww im flattered

are you really flattered by my opnions about you?

 

Seems you have missed me alot

seems like i miss your just moderation. but i think it will never happen.

 

You have every right i believe, bad me, i havent joint you in nice exchange opps, i mean nice debate for some time !

wow, you wanted to join the exchange regarding rotten fish smell that come between my legs?

 

Ok look,

Ý havent seen cynic post here, i saw yours ´´all of you´´ and thought you were talking about the nice exchange you had with him yesterday

what?

 

And i thought that wasnt fair, because you both have crossed the line, not only him and not only you.

when he first crossed the borders i was in bed, and learnt that in the morning. wow, that wasnt fair. and i also learnt that it was LIR who delted the cynics post, not you and not libra. because you enjoy when your "friends like me" get insulted.

 

When i saw his post here today it was already late, i pm´ed LÝR about it and we let it as it is now .

well, if it was my post you wouldnt pm LIR, you would straightly delete it. hypocrite!

 

Quoting femmeous

someone delete my double post

 

Done!

it must be a pleasure to you

 

 

125.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:38 pm

 you failed alameda, you have no proof. because when you have proofs you never hesitate bringing them in the form of links or quotes. lol gotcha!

its just you love young men like cynic and you will always protect them. and nothing more.

 

Quoting alameda

 

Quoting femmeous

 now, alameda lol

yesterday morning i logged in and the rumours were in my pm. till that time i had nothing to do with cynic.

and pls, dont lie about that i followed him. he accused me for things i didnt do.

 

now, alameda, my dear super hypocrite i ever met, prove your claims above, because i clearly remember what happent between me and cynic. i remember every detail.

 

 

As do I....having followed it. I don´t have to prove anything. It´s here for all with eyes to see. All they have to do is follow your posts.....

 

 

 

126.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:43 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Oh femm....Get real....you know you provoked him! You followed him around multiple threads harassing him and lowering the level of discourse. He warned you numerous times, but you kept on....

 

Oh..........the bullfighter doesn´t complain when he´s gored by the bull.....he knows he provoked him.

 

You are quite masterful at it.

 

 Are you justifying that kind of insult now Alameda?  Or only when it suits you?

I wonder what forum you were reading on Friday, because (on this occasion!) Femme was hardly provoking him! This demeaning sexual onslaught was brought about merely because of a comment about photography.  What has continued since, and yesterday, is as a result of, not the cause of, his actions

 

 



Edited (2/22/2009) by TheAenigma
Edited (2/22/2009) by TheAenigma

127.       lady in red
6947 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:46 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Are you justifying that kind of insult now Alameda?  Or only when it suits you?

I wonder what forum you were reading on Friday, because (on this occasion!) Femme was hardly provoking him! This demeaning sexual onslaught was brought about merely because of a comment about photography.  What has continued since, and yesterday, is as a result of, not the cause of, his actions

 

 

 

 +1 - actually you just beat me to it with that post.  And as for cynic ´warning´ femme several times ...is he running the site now with the right to ´warn´ people?



Edited (2/22/2009) by lady in red

128.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:49 pm

 

Quoting alameda

Oh femm....Get real....you know you provoked him! You followed him around multiple threads harassing him and lowering the level of discourse. He warned you numerous times, but you kept on....

 

Oh..........the bullfighter doesn´t complain when he´s gored by the bull.....he knows he provoked him.

 

You are quite masterful at it.

 

I think you are definitely biased here Alameda, and I think it´s just because you disagree with other opinons of Femme that you don´t look objectively at some things she says. I disagree with many opinions of Femme, but I do think she is quite right here:

 

Quoting femmeous

what makes me laugh is that none of these sensitive beings like alameda, canli, bydand, libra or mltm has expressed a tiny protest or digust when the very cynic was spewing such hatred and personal attacks on everyone around. opposite they enjoyed him.

not mentioning canli who just ignores posts that contain curses.

 

129.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 09:50 pm

  

Quoting femmeous

 

 You have every right i believe, bad me, i havent joint you in nice exchange opps, i mean nice debate for some time !

wow, you wanted to join the exchange regarding rotten fish smell that come between my legs?

 

You mean that is all your debats about ?!!!

Actually im not getting myself into that kind of talk !

 

Quoting femmeous

when he first crossed the borders i was in bed, and learnt that in the morning. wow, that wasnt fair. and i also learnt that it was LIR who delted the cynics post, not you and not libra. because you enjoy when your "friends like me" get insulted.

 

Nope, it was last night and it was a cooperate work between all of us too, and your posts or exchange with him were deleted also last night.

 

Quoting femmeous

well, if it was my post you wouldnt pm LIR, you would straightly delete it. hypocrite

 

Actually i would, as long as LÝR would be the one who is in here on that time, or LL or cat .

Ýf no one was in here, yes i would take the charge of deleting it if needed and its not only you but anyone else would be treated same.



Edited (2/22/2009) by CANLI

130.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:01 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

It is impossible to quote the part of your post that I want to reply to, because its all such a mess! 

 

Canli we are not talking about last nights "exchanges", we are talking about a post made on Friday night by Cynicmystic, which was largely unprovoked and unnecessary, not to mention disgusting.

 

Why won´t you listen to anyone (including two Admins)?

131.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:06 pm

I find it strange that, a few weeks ago you found my post about TC Orgasm Day so worrying and crude that you insisted I post an "adults only" logo at the start of the thread.

 

An orgasm is a natural thing.  Nothing in my post was offensive.  Yet, here you are, defending Cynics comments!!! lol

132.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:08 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

  

You mean that is all your debats about ?!!!

Actually im not getting myself into that kind of talk !

 

 

 

 ah, pls, dont pretend you dont like such talks. canli, i know you watched these talks to the end with water in your mouth, you know every detail you just loved it why i think so? because you kept repeating about the last night talk. you like to pretend a nice lady. but you get caught by me.

133.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:08 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

It is impossible to quote the part of your post that I want to reply to, because its all such a mess! 

 

Canli we are not talking about last nights "exchanges", we are talking about a post made on Friday night by Cynicmystic, which was largely unprovoked and unnecessary, not to mention disgusting.

 

Why won´t you listen to anyone (including two Admins)?

 

Aenigma...Now if you really wanted to quote parts of Canli´s posts, it is not impossilbe. It does thake a little extra effort. If you think what you say is really that important, why not take the extra time and make the extra effort?

 

As to the exchange....it was followed by more than you. You and Femm like to provoke Turkish males. You seem to take a special joy in it.

134.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:09 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I find it strange that, a few weeks ago you found my post about TC Orgasm Day so worrying and crude that you insisted I post an "adults only" logo at the start of the thread.

 

An orgasm is a natural thing.  Nothing in my post was offensive.  Yet, here you are, defending Cynics comments!!! lol

 

 lol

a dogmatic hypocrisy?

135.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:10 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Aenigma...Now if you really wanted to quote parts of Canli´s posts, it is not impossilbe. It does thake a little extra effort. If you think what you say is really that important, why not take the extra time and make the extra effort?

 

oh please....!

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Aenigma...Now if you really wanted to quote parts of Canli´s posts, it is not impossilbe. It does thake a little extra effort. If you think what you say is really that important, why not take the extra time and make the extra effort?

 

 Pardon?

I actually think I provoke more females than males actually! I would say the same for femme too.  To be honest, I don´t think I tend to provoke much at all these days! I leave provoking to more dogmatic members

 

 



Edited (2/22/2009) by TheAenigma

136.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:12 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 

You and Femm like to provoke Turkish males. You seem to take a special joy in it.

 

 lol

immature turkish males are delicious and crunchy to consume lol

137.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:13 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

  To be honest, I don´t think I tend to provoke much at all these days! 

 

 

 If you don´t provoke (what a pity   ) is it then possible to go to TheLounge? Please?

138.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:15 pm

aenigma, pls, stop disturbing immature young turks, leave them all to alameda and her friends.

139.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:17 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

aenigma, pls, stop disturbing immature young turks, leave them all to alameda and her friends.

 

 OK sorry

140.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:22 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 If you don´t provoke (what a pity   ) is it then possible to go to TheLounge? Please?

 

 you genius, you have no clue of what you wrote. you gave me a great idea. lol

141.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:26 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

Canli we are not talking about last nights "exchanges", we are talking about a post made on Friday night by Cynicmystic, which was largely unprovoked and unnecessary, not to mention disgusting.

 

Why won´t you listen to anyone (including two Admins)?

 

 Hmmmm, i actually dont understand your question !

Why dont i listen to anyone (including two admins) about forming my opinion or what ?!

 

Ý was accused of letting which post exactly and liking it ?

Friday´s or yesterday´s, or the post in that thread ?!

Ý already answered questions about yesterday´s and that thread post, about friday, i wasnt here and when i came back, i deleted posts alright about that, reposted post.

 

Actually i dont know nor understand the problem im accuused along with alameda and LL with ?

Should i carry a sign and say what i support or not support, or should i post in forum here the pm´s i´ve exchanged about the issue with the members ?!

PM means private message, it ÝS private so is what i said to him/ her.

Ý wont come and post it in forum, and said i said this or that.

Ý said what i wanted to the member in question and that is end of the story to me, i wont take it to the open, and i wont also come and say i have deleted this or that to prove anything.

 

 



Edited (2/22/2009) by CANLI

142.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:28 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 you genius, you have no clue of what you wrote. you gave me a great idea. lol

 

 What did I do (wrong) this time? {#lang_emotions_cry}

143.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:30 pm

nobody is asking anyone to post pm in the forum. asking such thing would be impolite.

144.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:31 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 What did I do (wrong) this time? {#lang_emotions_cry}

 

 you are just genius, trudy, thats all lol

145.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 10:32 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

I find it strange that, a few weeks ago you found my post about TC Orgasm Day so worrying and crude that you insisted I post an "adults only" logo at the start of the thread.

 

An orgasm is a natural thing.  Nothing in my post was offensive.  Yet, here you are, defending Cynics comments!!! lol

 

 Ãf i was defending Cynics comments regarding that issue, i wouldnt have deletd them!



Edited (2/22/2009) by CANLI

146.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 11:29 pm

 

Quoting mltm

Cynic´s disgusting post was immediately deleted, I don´t know by who, but I saw the deleted posts because moderators can see it.

 

So, how can you make guesses like we do not care about these kind of posts and let them stay on the forum? When I saw them, they were already deleted! And canlý was not around.

 

 

Truth is that not every single mod has to be equally sensitive to everything. The reason we have many mods with different backgrounds is so that different mods can take care of different issues.



Edited (2/22/2009) by catwoman

147.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 11:56 pm

my conclusion is: women like mltm and alameda are those who condemn raped women for being raped. they will definetly say: she wouldnt be raped if she didnt provoke by her dress.

 

 

148.       mltm
3690 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 01:04 am

 

Quoting femmeous

my conclusion is: women like mltm and alameda are those who condemn raped women for being raped. they will definetly say: she wouldnt be raped if she didnt provoke by her dress.

 

 

 

 Yes! how do you read my mind? Exactly like that.

 

Though I wonder how did you jump to thi subject.

149.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 08:46 pm

 

Quoting lesluv

It is good to be a woman:


12. If we marry someone 20 years younger, we are aware that we will look like an idiot.

 

 I don´t think my young dudu makes me look like an idiot!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

150.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:11 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I don´t think my young dudu makes me look like an idiot!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 Lisa...surely your dudu must only be about 10!!  lol lol

151.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:12 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

 Lisa...surely your dudu must only be about 10!!  lol lol

 

 Is that wrong?

152.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:16 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Is that wrong?

 

 i dont like younger ones. they are so stupid. i wouldnt have enough patience to raise a child.

153.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:18 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

 Lisa...surely your dudu must only be about 10!!  lol lol

 

 Oh, LIR....he is old enough to see over the bar at the pub{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}!  and he has a full beard!  So surely he is at least 17, no?



Edited (2/23/2009) by Elisabeth

154.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:22 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Oh, LIR....he is old enough to see over the bar at the pub{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}!  and he has a full beard!  So surely he is at least 17, no?

 

I was being complimentary about your age!  And Turks are very hairy - so maybe a full beard could be possible at 10!!!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

155.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:32 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

I was being complimentary about your age!  And Turks are very hairy - so maybe a full beard could be possible at 10!!!  {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

 

 I will have to ask to see his national ID card! 

 

Thanks for the compliment anyway.  They happen so infrequently here, I almost didn´t recognize it!!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

156.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:33 pm

Ooops wrong thread



Edited (2/23/2009) by TheAenigma

157.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:38 pm

 lol

oops, im too late.

Quoting TheAenigma

Ooops wrong thread

 

 

158.       lady in red
6947 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 09:39 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Ooops wrong thread

 

 One too many drams methinks!!!  {#lang_emotions_alcoholics}

159.       bod
5999 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 07:21 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Ooops wrong thread

 

You mean there is a right thread ???

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