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Real Ataturk or Western-backed plot?
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40.       femmeous
2642 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 02:50 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 The idea from debating is exchanging point of views/opinions,not fighting/attacking between each others,those have no place here im afraid.

 

 then you should be fair and delete other comments.

but  i know you are far away from being fair, im afraid.

41.       CANLI
5084 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 02:57 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 then you should be fair and delete other comments.

but  i know you are far away from being fair, im afraid.

 

 And i havent either deleted your comments ´other comment i mean´

Mmm seems you know me very well lol

 PS: i did,just for you dear femmeous

 

Now,let´s all keep it to the topic please.

42.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 04:13 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 

Now,let´s all keep it to the topic please.

 

 OK. Gives me a chance to tell one of my favourite W. Churchill stories.

 

What is all that rot quoted saying that we wouldn´t like a film that showed Churchill as a drinker?

 

We (here I dare to speak for all my fellow British people - great generalisation I know) all know he was a drinker. No one ever hides it.  While he was prime-minister stories about it were well known.

 

One night Churchill was at a party and a bit drunk. One lady told him off for it.

"Sir" she said in a disgusted voice. "You´re drunk!"

"Yes madam" he agreed. "And you are ugly. But the difference between us is that I shall be sober in the morning."

 

 

43.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 04:29 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 OK. Gives me a chance to tell one of my favourite W. Churchill stories.

 

What is all that rot quoted saying that we wouldn´t like a film that showed Churchill as a drinker?

 

We (here I dare to speak for all my fellow British people - great generalisation I know) all know he was a drinker. No one ever hides it.  While he was prime-minister stories about it were well known.

 

One night Churchill was at a party and a bit drunk. One lady told him off for it.

"Sir" she said in a disgusted voice. "You´re drunk!"

"Yes madam" he agreed. "And you are ugly. But the difference between us is that I shall be sober in the morning."

 

44.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Nov 2008 Mon 10:55 pm

I think seeing Ataturk as a human is far more endearing than seeing him as a "God-like" figure with no faults or shortcomings.  He was a great leader...but human just the same.  If he liked to drink or smoke, it in no way diminishes his work.   

45.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 03:22 am

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46.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 03:36 am

 

Quoting thehandsom



And if you have another word for ´paranoia´ in this context, please bring it on.
But If you don´t, leave the ´usage of paranoia in the political context´ to the person who uses it.
I dont think the usage of paranoia in politics is an insult to anybody in any culture!!

 

 handsom,i believe we have been through this enough today,and STÝLL you insist to make it an issue and further more taking into forum !

Ok,what do you seek from that ?

Make a fight? Exchange attacks ?!

Truly,i dont understand you !

Ok,here is another one ,if thats satisfy you

 

paranoia

/parrnoy/

  • noun 1 a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance. 2 unjustified suspicion and mistrust of others.

 

Oxford Dictionary

 

And guess what,some people,in some culture STÝLL dont like be called paranoied in discussing political issues

And they are from Earth,not Mars if i may add !

 

Now,can we keep to the topic,and any personal issue you can take it to PM´s ?

Either to other mods/admins if you wish,or to the member in question?

But take it off the forum pls!

47.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 03:57 am

I think that thehandsom could have been a little bit more polite while expressing his point that some people see too much in certain things, and/or over-react to them. Really, I think there were many ways in which he could have said the same thing, there´s no use arguing that he had no choice and his post was deleted unfairly. He also had a chance to modify his post and express himself in a less flammable way, but he chose not to.

48.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 04:27 am

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49.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 04:50 am

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50.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Nov 2008 Tue 05:10 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

I dont remember the exact wording but I think I did say that ´your ideas are paranoid ideas´ or similar.

 

you said this:

 

"Ha ha..

You really are paranoid about this propaganda thing..lol"

 

Even if I agree with you that this is not very insulting, for the purpose of having a civilized conversation, when the person you are talking with finds this insulting, you should avoid saying this...

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