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Orhan Pamuk
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10.       MaryEldar
0 posts
 29 Mar 2006 Wed 10:26 pm

Hello every body!

Thank you for your posts.
I will read the webpages and later i will give my comments.

Please, Can you tell me other turkish authors??
I hope found other books here in my city!!

Mary T.

11.       erdinc
2151 posts
 29 Mar 2006 Wed 10:35 pm

I liked his books. One day, in the early 1990's when I was at the uni I picked one of his books, "Beyaz Kale". I couldn't stop reading that book. I didn't sleep that night. I finished the book until the morning, had breakfast, waited for the shops to open and then went straigt to a book shop. I came back home with a peaceful smile on my face his next book "Kara Kitap" in my hands.

Now, I feel a huge dissapointment. I don't feel like I can ever enjoy reading his books again no matter how good they are. Pamuk was wrong and was unethical by talking rubbish about his homeland. Even Yaşar Kemal criticized (*) him for his hateful behavior. Of course you might like him. It's your choice. I'm done with Orhan Pamuk.

There are many good authors in contemporary Turkish literature. I especially like Oğuz Atay in his books "Tehlikeli Oyunlar" and "Tutunamayanlar".

* Yaşar Kemal is a famous novelist and intellectual in Turkia. He is well know with his masterpiece "İnce Mehmet". He has been charged and jailed many times because of his political comments especially when criticizing our government because of human rights issues and ethnic minorities. Yaşar Kemal said he would never comment agains his homeland in a way like Pamuk did. He used the word "düşmanca" (like an enemy).

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Also, some observers were suspicious of Pamuk's real intentions behind this statement and claimed that he was putting on a show in order to win the Nobel prize for literature which later went to British playwright Harold Pinter, drawing attention to the fact that Pamuk had never before shown sensitivity for the Kurdish problem, or the Armenian question.
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12.       slavica
814 posts
 30 Mar 2006 Thu 12:23 am

Quoting MaryEldar:

What is your opinion?



We've already had a discussion about Orhan Pamuk at this forum. Maybe you would like to read it:
www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_1532

My personal opinion - I've never liked people talking and writting bad about its homecountry, especially from abroad.

13.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Mar 2006 Thu 07:36 pm

Quoting slavica:

My personal opinion - I've never liked people talking and writting bad about its homecountry, especially from abroad.



But what if they are right in what they say? (I'm not saying Pamuk is Because i don't know.. but I'm just asking you in general.)

In Holland we don't have this national-pride feeling, I'm not sure if that's a loss or if that's not a problem at all. I don't feel so proud of my country, nor i dislike it. It's good to live in, but I don't love it and I wouldn't mind critizising (how do you spell that ) the government if they were wrong. Or the queen who is incredibly wrong with her next-planned trip to Argentina. I can't believe how she can ever be so stupid :-S

14.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Mar 2006 Thu 08:02 pm

It's not ok to be hateful, but being not critical is just as unhealthy. If there's no criticism of the country or of the government from it's people that means that some real manipulation and suppression is happening.

15.       Lyndie
968 posts
 30 Mar 2006 Thu 08:06 pm

I totally agree with Catwoman. Its neither helpful or progressive not to criticise. How else can things change. I am sorry to see that Erdinc liked his books until he found out about the politics of the man. Surely the point about great literature is that people like to read the work.

Personally, I now want to read him, just to see what all the fuss is about.

16.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Mar 2006 Thu 08:31 pm

Quoting catwoman:

It's not ok to be hateful, but being not critical is just as unhealthy. If there's no criticism of the country or of the government from it's people that means that some real manipulation and suppression is happening.



Great minds think alike

17.       Elisa
0 posts
 30 Mar 2006 Thu 11:31 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

It's not ok to be hateful, but being not critical is just as unhealthy. If there's no criticism of the country or of the government from it's people that means that some real manipulation and suppression is happening.



Great minds think alike



No comment

18.       slavica
814 posts
 31 Mar 2006 Fri 02:49 am

Sorry, my english is not perfect and my mind is not so great. When I said “talking and writting bad about its homecountry” I didn’t mean criticizing its government or negative appearances, but writing insulting, unethical and hateful comments. Anyway, I always prefered people who, being abroad, use this opportunity to help, support and promote their homeland, although those who criticize are many more.
As I said, it is my personal opinion, and it has to do more with national-pride feeling. You can agree or disagree, it is your right.

19.       MaryEldar
0 posts
 31 Mar 2006 Fri 03:31 am

Hello again!

I think some times: the truth not freckle but disturbs.
Each country have his black history, my country in example, in 2/oct/1968 the president kill a lot of students in "Tlatelolco" place, all the newspaper was burned and tv closed, nobody haved permision to talk about these fatal day. 30years later the files was opened and now we are discovering the very sad truth: the governement kill innocent people.

I don't know sufficient about Turkiye history. But some times: "The truth not freckle but disturbs." Now i need read about Turkiye history to made my final comment...

Mary T.

20.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 31 Mar 2006 Fri 03:33 am

Quoting Kadir37:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

is this book online anywhere?? i was hoping to read it myself...


Here is a summary in Turkish




thanks kadir..!! iv just realised how helpful you are... wow... its great to have you on TC... çak bakim (h5) hehe

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