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Is the Iraq Invasion The Most Shameful Event In British History?
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1.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 01:59 pm

"If British troops are indeed withdrawn from Iraq by next June, it will signal the end of the most shameful and disastrous episode in modern British history. Branded only last month by Lord Bingham, until recently Britain´s most senior law lord, as a "serious violation of international law", the aggression against Iraq has not only devastated an entire country and left hundreds of thousands dead - it has also been a political and military humiliation for the invading powers.


Is this an over-reaction, or indeed, the darkest chapter in our island´s history? I remember when we had a day off from school to march against the invasion of Iraq, together with millions of other Brits, through London, hearing activist (and Labour MP for Hampstead) Glenda Jackson describe the coming invasion as the first time in a thousand years, that Great Britain had illegally invaded sovereign territory"


I too, joined that march and remember the deepest feeling of disgust when our protests were ignored.

2.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:02 pm

Even if you consider it to be incredibly shameful, I don´t think it fair to say it is the most shameful event in British history.    What about the building of the British Empire and the associated pillage???

3.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:04 pm

 

Quoting bod

Even if you consider it to be incredibly shameful

 

You dont?!?!?! {#lang_emotions_wtf} 

 

It IS actually worse than the empire, because we live in different times now, and the public have access to more information and detail, and YET it continued...

4.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:06 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

You dont?!?!?! {#lang_emotions_wtf} 

 

 

 I was deliberately not expressing an opinion.........

5.       TheAenigma
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 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:07 pm

 

Quoting bod

 I was deliberately not expressing an opinion.........

 

 And why is that?

6.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:09 pm

We know that a considerable part of  British society denounce the invasion of Iraq by what we may losely call as West actually committed this crime collectively as no serious government level objections or intervention attempts have ever been observed. You are objecting your own government about the invasion but defend it at all costs on the forums, in the ranks of the Western league. Phew! I call this patriotism...

7.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:19 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

We know that a considerable part of  British society denounce the invasion of Iraq by what we may losely call as West actually committed this crime collectively as no serious government level objections or intervention attempts have ever been observed.

 

 I think there are many EU countries who would strongly object to this comment.

 

Quoting vineyards

You are objecting your own government about the invasion but defend it at all costs on the forums, in the ranks of the Western league. Phew! I call this patriotism...

 

Are you talking to me personally?  When have I EVER defended this at all, let alone "at all costs".  And what is "the Western League" exactly?

8.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:19 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 And why is that?

 

 In the interests of neutrality........

9.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:20 pm

 

Quoting bod

 In the interests of neutrality........

 

 How dull!  Would you rather argue about clothes?

10.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:24 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 How dull!  Would you rather argue about clothes?

 

My girlie and I spend lots of time argueing over clothes........

As we share all our clothes it is not uncommon for us to want to wear the same thing at the same time despite having quite a few clothes.   We are getting around this problem by mostly now buying two of everything

 

Don´t expect the neutrality to last........I´m just giving other folks a chance to express their opinions!

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