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Is the Iraq Invasion The Most Shameful Event In British History?
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 01:59 pm |
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"If British troops are indeed withdrawn from Iraq by next June, it will signal the end of the most shameful and disastrous episode in modern British history. Branded only last month by Lord Bingham, until recently Britain´s most senior law lord, as a "serious violation of international law", the aggression against Iraq has not only devastated an entire country and left hundreds of thousands dead - it has also been a political and military humiliation for the invading powers.
Is this an over-reaction, or indeed, the darkest chapter in our island´s history? I remember when we had a day off from school to march against the invasion of Iraq, together with millions of other Brits, through London, hearing activist (and Labour MP for Hampstead) Glenda Jackson describe the coming invasion as the first time in a thousand years, that Great Britain had illegally invaded sovereign territory"
I too, joined that march and remember the deepest feeling of disgust when our protests were ignored.
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:02 pm |
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Even if you consider it to be incredibly shameful, I don´t think it fair to say it is the most shameful event in British history. What about the building of the British Empire and the associated pillage???
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:04 pm |
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Even if you consider it to be incredibly shameful
You dont?!?!?! 
It IS actually worse than the empire, because we live in different times now, and the public have access to more information and detail, and YET it continued...
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:06 pm |
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You dont?!?!?!
I was deliberately not expressing an opinion.........
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:07 pm |
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I was deliberately not expressing an opinion.........
And why is that?
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:09 pm |
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We know that a considerable part of British society denounce the invasion of Iraq by what we may losely call as West actually committed this crime collectively as no serious government level objections or intervention attempts have ever been observed. You are objecting your own government about the invasion but defend it at all costs on the forums, in the ranks of the Western league. Phew! I call this patriotism...
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:19 pm |
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We know that a considerable part of British society denounce the invasion of Iraq by what we may losely call as West actually committed this crime collectively as no serious government level objections or intervention attempts have ever been observed.
I think there are many EU countries who would strongly object to this comment.
You are objecting your own government about the invasion but defend it at all costs on the forums, in the ranks of the Western league. Phew! I call this patriotism...
Are you talking to me personally? When have I EVER defended this at all, let alone "at all costs". And what is "the Western League" exactly?
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:19 pm |
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In the interests of neutrality........
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:20 pm |
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In the interests of neutrality........
How dull! Would you rather argue about clothes?
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:24 pm |
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How dull! Would you rather argue about clothes?
My girlie and I spend lots of time argueing over clothes........
As we share all our clothes it is not uncommon for us to want to wear the same thing at the same time despite having quite a few clothes. We are getting around this problem by mostly now buying two of everything 
Don´t expect the neutrality to last........I´m just giving other folks a chance to express their opinions!
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:30 pm |
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Are you talking to me personally? When have I EVER defended this at all, let alone "at all costs". And what is "the Western League" exactly?
When I say West you say East. When I say you, you say U2 and this gives me a right to say UB40.
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:33 pm |
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When I say West you say East. When I say you, you say U2 and this gives me a right to say UB40.
When you say TOMARTO, I say TOMATEO 
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:34 pm |
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..... and this gives me a right to say UB40.
So we are getting red red wine from the vineyards 
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:35 pm |
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When my vineyard yields harvest someday, you can...
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:37 pm |
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When my vineyard yields harvest someday, you can...
Hopefully served with chicken from the farmhouse 
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:39 pm |
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Chicks are OK but I cannot guarantee to get you ones with either piercing or a tattoo...
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:50 pm |
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Chicks are OK but I cannot guarantee to get you ones with either piercing or a tattoo...
I´m not sure I´d want a pierced chicken
The metal is a little difficult to digest!!!
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:55 pm |
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Everyrhing about piercing takes some effort for sure...
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:15 pm |
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Everyrhing about piercing takes some effort for sure...
True - but I don´t have a habit of eating my piercings.......
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:21 am |
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"If British troops are indeed withdrawn from Iraq by next June, it will signal the end of the most shameful and disastrous episode in modern British history. Branded only last month by Lord Bingham, until recently Britain´s most senior law lord, as a "serious violation of international law", the aggression against Iraq has not only devastated an entire country and left hundreds of thousands dead - it has also been a political and military humiliation for the invading powers.
Is this an over-reaction, or indeed, the darkest chapter in our island´s history? I remember when we had a day off from school to march against the invasion of Iraq, together with millions of other Brits, through London, hearing activist (and Labour MP for Hampstead) Glenda Jackson describe the coming invasion as the first time in a thousand years, that Great Britain had illegally invaded sovereign territory"
I too, joined that march and remember the deepest feeling of disgust when our protests were ignored.
Ãt didnt take much attention it seems on the time,but in an attempt to justify the war by many funny reasons
à believe its important to point out its not justified by the ones who are part of it too.
Btw,the link doesnt work AE
Ãs it this one ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/iraq-us-foreign-policy
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:34 am |
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Ãt didnt take much attention it seems on the time,
What didn´t?
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:36 am |
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The thread.
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:37 am |
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Hahaha ok ok I understand now - I thought you meant that the invasion of Iraq didn´t receive much attention at the time - I was just about to launch into RED ALERT and attack!!!
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:50 am |
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Hahaha ok ok I understand now - I thought you meant that the invasion of Iraq didn´t receive much attention at the time - I was just about to launch into RED ALERT and attack!!!
à dont know why i have sensed that... 
Thats why my reply was fast,short and direct lol 
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:54 am |
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à dont know why i have sensed that...
Thats why my reply was fast,short and direct lol
lol - are you scared of ME? 
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:58 am |
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lol - are you scared of ME?
Ohhhh me ???!!!!!!
NEVER !
Actually afraid of that Red Alert...i had enough heated debats for 2 coming days lol
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 12:23 pm |
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lol - are you scared of ME?
How could anyone be afraid of the sweet and gentle AEnigma
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 01:01 pm |
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How could anyone be afraid of the sweet and gentle AEnigma
Hmmm 
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 01:20 pm |
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Hmmm
Are you trying to kill us by humming AE ???
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 02:29 pm |
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Are you trying to kill us by humming AE ???
Humming can kill?!? 
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 02:39 pm |
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Humming can kill?!?
I believe so - it just depends on who is doing the humming
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:22 pm |
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I believe so - it just depends on who is doing the humming
Or who´s driving a Hummer
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:39 pm |
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Or who´s driving a Hummer
Good point - well made
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18 Dec 2008 Thu 12:15 am |
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"If British troops are indeed withdrawn from Iraq by next June, it will signal the end of the most shameful and disastrous episode in modern British history. Branded only last month by Lord Bingham, until recently Britain´s most senior law lord, as a "serious violation of international law", the aggression against Iraq has not only devastated an entire country and left hundreds of thousands dead - it has also been a political and military humiliation for the invading powers.
Is this an over-reaction, or indeed, the darkest chapter in our island´s history? I remember when we had a day off from school to march against the invasion of Iraq, together with millions of other Brits, through London, hearing activist (and Labour MP for Hampstead) Glenda Jackson describe the coming invasion as the first time in a thousand years, that Great Britain had illegally invaded sovereign territory"
I too, joined that march and remember the deepest feeling of disgust when our protests were ignored.
Yes, it will be years we will have to live with the shame...How many lives were terminated or irreparably damaged? I am so ashamed...so deeply ashamed. 
There were three large marches right before the invasion of Iraq, I was in all three of them. The day the invasion started, I took off from work in protest. Many millions across the world participated in the marches. There were hundreds of thousands marching in San Francisco. The reports didn´t give an accurate count.
It was frightening, there were helicopters flying over us all the time.
Anti war protests
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18 Dec 2008 Thu 11:38 am |
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I am so ashamed...so deeply ashamed.
There were three large marches right before the invasion of Iraq, I was in all three of them.
Why should you be ashamed???
You were at all three marches - is there anything else you could have done to try to prevent invasion???
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