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The virus of religious moderation
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30.       Melek74
1506 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 07:48 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i dont believe that you couldnt find, because one part of your info was there and the other wasnt there.

 

I hardly could care about what you believe. Maybe we looked in different places

 

Besides, I was too distracted by laughing at him trying to pass a fishing lure as an evidence against evolution {#lang_emotions_lol} (this is a pic from his Atlas of Creation, which by the way is available online - and has GEORGOUS photography - for free to all those who want to believe fishing lures are god-made)

 

fishing lure

31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 07:57 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 of course the web bannings has to do with countries and their religions. most of christian countries dont ban anything. and most of muslim countries ban almost evrything (oh, they dont ban porn sites )

how do you, dear secular turk explain that dawkins is banned in a secular turkey at the request of such a religious criminal oktar?

 

That is to do with lack of democracy culture and the state´s desire to regulate its citizens public and private life..Basically it is result of totalitarianism.

Nothing to do with religion..

Look at China as an example..

As far as Banning Dawkins website, I can say that islamists came to the power and they are using what the state already has..

Turkey always have had these type of  rules and regulations for banning the things and the islamists are using them.

32.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 08:06 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

I made this thread to point out that ALL religions are absurd and none of them (or very few) are peaceful/harmless when you take a closer look at it. And also to point out that people who are considered moderates are guilty of perpetrating the myth of benign religions. This is not a thread about Turkey, this is a threat about religions in general, stemming from my frustration with the whole Christian vs. Muslim war that is in a way reflected by multiple posts on this website.

well, it was you who started about oktar using him to jump on the pope

 

You´re obviously entitled to your opinion about me. Which brings me to trick #2 used by religious people:

 

If you can´t argue/disagree with the atheist´s arguments/opinons, attack their personal character.

i dont care about your tricks

i should admit that i use sometimes personal attacks but its not only in case of atheist/religious arguements. so dont think you´ve caught me red handed.

plus, i hardly consider myself religious

 

 

33.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 08:10 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Femmeous, please refrain from personal attacks.

 

Melek has quoted only criticism of Christianity because that´s what Sam Harris deals with mainly, because he addresses the US audiences.

 

 yes, maam, ll try to.

 i just feel that alameda has multiplied into melek, familyguy and lots of others (not suggesting that she has different nicks)

 it is so difficult to refrain from emotional reactions to such people.

34.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 08:17 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

That is to do with lack of democracy culture and the state´s desire to regulate its citizens public and private life..Basically it is result of totalitarianism.

Nothing to do with religion..

Look at China as an example..

As far as Banning Dawkins website, I can say that islamists came to the power and they are using what the state already has..

Turkey always have had these type of  rules and regulations for banning the things and the islamists are using them.

 

so long live western christian countries

well, it does come out of religion. you cant deny that all islamic countries domain is to ban and limit freedom.

if you show me at least one islamic country that is as democratic and liberated as the western countries i will withdraw my previous post.

 

35.       Melek74
1506 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 08:42 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

If you can´t argue/disagree with the atheist´s arguments/opinons, attack their personal character.

i dont care about your tricks

i should admit that i use sometimes personal attacks but its not only in case of atheist/religious arguements. so dont think you´ve caught me red handed.

plus, i hardly consider myself religious

 

Oh in that case, I do beg your pardon. Let me modify my post a bit ..

 

"If you can´t argue with (insert preferred epithet here)´s opinions, attack their personal character."

 

And funny, I thought you were a Christian-wannabe. My mistake again {#lang_emotions_shy}{#lang_emotions_razz}

 

36.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 08:58 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

Oh in that case, I do beg your pardon. Let me modify my post a bit ..

i love this part.

 

"If you can´t argue with (insert preferred epithet here)´s opinions, attack their personal character."

hmmm...

 

And funny, I thought you were a Christian-wannabe. My mistake again {#lang_emotions_shy}{#lang_emotions_razz}

give me your description of a christian-wannabe and i will tell ya if i fit there.

lol

 

 

37.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 09:07 pm

Do we really have to fight here? All of us agree on almost everything and we still manage to find something to fight about! phew!!!

38.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 09:24 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

so long live western christian countries

well, it does come out of religion. you cant deny that all islamic countries domain is to ban and limit freedom.

if you show me at least one islamic country that is as democratic and liberated as the western countries i will withdraw my previous post.

 

well..

I believe  your idea ´the west is west beacuse of  the religion only´ is lacking in scope a bit!

If you think that west is west because of christianity you have no idea how ancestors of european people fought against the religious rules in the past in order to  create what you have right now..

Democracy was not invented in the west because of christianity. 

It is nothing to do with the religion what so ever..

 

39.       femmeous
2642 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 09:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

well..

I believe  your idea ´the west is west beacuse of  the religion only´ is lacking in scope a bit!

If you think that west is west because of christianity you have no idea how ancestors of european people fought against the religious rules in the past in order to  create what you have right now..

Democracy was not invented in the west because of christianity. 

It is nothing to do with the religion what so ever..

 blah blah blah

hairy, you lost it here.

come and proove it all. if you dont have anything strong sit quiet and comb your hair.

 

40.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 30 Dec 2008 Tue 09:39 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 blah blah blah

hairy, you lost it here.

come and proove it all. if you dont have anything strong sit quiet and comb your hair.

 

 Hehehe made me laugh....but sorry I have to agree with theHairy...religion has nothing to do with it!

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