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40.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 09:03 pm

Alameda - no, nothing Kosher here as well. Actually the number or traditional Jews (in terms of clothes) is gretly smaller (if present at all) to the number of burqa/scarf wearing Muslims. I know clothes doesn´t mean they eat Kosher/Halal food or not, just an observation.

 

It would be interesting to see the difference between halal/haram meat. Too bad I hardly ever eat beef so probably I wouldn´t make a good tester anyway lol

 

"You are what you eat" - probably means your food shows what region you come for, ie people at the seaside are more likely to have a better choice of eating seafood and fish then those from deserts Besides, pigs are neither dirty not stupid. I´m not going to argue whether it´s better to eat pork or beef, as for me it´s merely a matter of taste. And no, nobody will ever convince me that mussels are good {#emotions_dlg.puking}

41.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 10:04 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Alameda - no, nothing Kosher here as well. Actually the number or traditional Jews (in terms of clothes) is gretly smaller (if present at all) to the number of burqa/scarf wearing Muslims. I know clothes doesn´t mean they eat Kosher/Halal food or not, just an observation................

pigs are neither dirty not stupid. I´m not going to argue whether it´s better to eat pork or beef, as for me it´s merely a matter of taste. And no, nobody will ever convince me that mussels are good {#emotions_dlg.puking}

 

Very interesting article, thanks!  It still doesn´t encourage me to eat them.  I´m not talking about their intellegence or habits, but their flesh certainly is not clean. The fact that they don´t sweat means those toxins that might be eliminated through sweat, is not released and it stays in the system. 

 

Anyway, did you read the list of things pigs harbour?  It´s your choice what you eat, I don´t eat pig, I also am not particularly fond of beef...or any meat for that matter, but I have to eat to stay alive, so I eat kosher or halal lamb, goat and fish....and lots of veggies, grains  and beans. I try as hard as I can to see that what I eat was harvested ethically, that the animal had a good life, rather than the horrid caged chemicaly compromised lives some domestic animals live.

 

Meet your meat  <----------< this is a very difficult video to watch.....I don´t want to eat an animal who was subjected to this.  I doubt many would be able to actually watch the whole thing......and I certainly would not consider meat produced under these conditions halal or kosher......

 

Eating low on the food chain is recommended these days.

42.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 10:20 pm

Alameda - I won´t even try to take a look at that video as I may guess what is there. And it boils my blood just to think about cruelty towards animals (and people, of course). I have read the list of diseases pigs may have that´s why I´d never buy meat from a street stall or a place that is not under veterinary and hygienic control. Surely, I am aware that no safety measures can guarantee the meat is 100% free from all germs, yet, as I am not a material for a farmer, I have to buy meat somewhere. Like I said, it´s nothing religious for me, it´s merely the taste that makes me buy pork, but in general, if I have a choice between chicken and pork, I go for the the former Like you, I´m not a great fan of meat, I could easily live without it. Too bad it would mean cooking it anyway as Mr Daydreamer will anything as long as it´s meat lol For me, all food could be chocolate lol

43.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 10:29 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

.......................lol For me, all food could be chocolate lol

 

Ah yes....{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

let it be ethically harvested chocolate.......Did Child Slaves Harvest Your Latest Chocolate Treat?

 

44.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 10:50 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Ah yes....{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

let it be ethically harvested chocolate.......Did Child Slaves Harvest Your Latest Chocolate Treat?

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared} geeez, is there any food that´s safe to eat, tasty and obtained in a non-abusive manner? *DD is considering giving up eating and living off cigarette smoke* ahm...what? tobacco collected by children? aaarrgghh {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

I´m making light of this but it is actually scary to read about how disadvantaged some people are just because they were born in a particular place

45.       vineyards
1954 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 11:10 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared} geeez, is there any food that´s safe to eat, tasty and obtained in a non-abusive manner? *DD is considering giving up eating and living off cigarette smoke* ahm...what? tobacco collected by children? aaarrgghh {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

I´m making light of this but it is actually scary to read about how disadvantaged some people are just because they were born in a particular place

 

* The body and the mind speak different languages. Humans ara both carnivorous and herbivorous. Our digestive system was designed to extract nourishment from both sources.

 

* We are clever, cruel and treacherous creatures. This is evident in the ways we obtain our food relatively effortlessly.

 

* Our mind perceives a different sort of human cliché;  the one that goes to the moon, wins Oscars or Nobel prizes and engages himself/herself with charity.

46.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Jan 2010 Tue 11:17 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared} geeez, is there any food that´s safe to eat, tasty and obtained in a non-abusive manner? *DD is considering giving up eating and living off cigarette smoke* ahm...what? tobacco collected by children? aaarrgghh {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

I´m making light of this but it is actually scary to read about how disadvantaged some people are just because they were born in a particular place

I agree......although I think it´s more to do with a particular economic class rather than a place.  You know, the rich get richer.... syndrom?...............and you know smoking isn´t good for you either...of course. I have to admit....I miss them myselves.  Saw a film with Bette Davis the other day and it was amazing to see all the smoking in the film....Dark Victory

Bette Davis

 

Hollywood paid fortune to smoke

 

It´s just a case of being aware and asking questions regarding what we consume.  What, Where, How...same ol same ol....we just seem to forget sometimes.

 

47.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 12:12 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

How about a Kosher shop?  Seeing as Europe is more used to dealing with Jewish communities, it´s easier to find kosher meat. 

 

 There are WAY more Muslims in Holland then there are Jews And I think a lot of countries also have a very limited number of Jewish people. Only in areas with stricter Jewish communities can you find a Kosher butcher. For example, the diamond-area in Antwerp (Belgium). To be honest, I know a bunch of halal butchers in my city and the city where I work. I don´t know of any kosher butcher... So, in Holland it´s harder to find kosher meat instead of halal meat, but I guess you could eat both, since for both a prayer is said and such...



Edited (1/27/2010) by barba_mama

48.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 01:09 am

from my observations halal butchers are dirty. i dont know where do they take the idea of cleanness?

full of flies, blood full floors, animals dead or not together in one room. butchers and their assistants in dirty clothes spitting on every step. so disgusting.

 

james (that famous chef) was visiting one of the new york halal restaurants, and of course there was a sight of a butcher shop. i was appaled by his ignorance. if this was about one of the supermarkets he would give a negative comment, but for the sake of political correctness he acted as if things are normal.

 

eh, dont be offended, just sharing my opinion.

49.       lemon
1374 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 01:12 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared} geeez, is there any food that´s safe to eat, tasty and obtained in a non-abusive manner? *DD is considering giving up eating and living off cigarette smoke* ahm...what? tobacco collected by children? aaarrgghh {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

I´m making light of this but it is actually scary to read about how disadvantaged some people are just because they were born in a particular place

 

no more chocolates for you. high time to quit smoking. do you wear cotton? do you have any idea how its grown and collected? you should now think before you put on yourself a cotton.

 

do you have any idea how your clothes are made? {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

50.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 01:20 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

no more chocolates for you. high time to quit smoking. do you wear cotton? do you have any idea how its grown and collected? you should now think before you put on yourself a cotton.

 

do you have any idea how your clothes are made? {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

 

Harika, what does it leave me? I should be a naked, non-smoking, non-eating DD. Well, at least for a few weeks till I die (is drinking tap water ok? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}). Or maybe I´ll shave my head bald and become a Buddhist monk? Oh, no can do, too much spirituality in there. Damn! no hope for me, I´m going out to have a smoke

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