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50.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 01:20 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

no more chocolates for you. high time to quit smoking. do you wear cotton? do you have any idea how its grown and collected? you should now think before you put on yourself a cotton.

 

do you have any idea how your clothes are made? {#emotions_dlg.doh}

 

 

Harika, what does it leave me? I should be a naked, non-smoking, non-eating DD. Well, at least for a few weeks till I die (is drinking tap water ok? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}). Or maybe I´ll shave my head bald and become a Buddhist monk? Oh, no can do, too much spirituality in there. Damn! no hope for me, I´m going out to have a smoke

51.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 04:15 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 So, in Holland it´s harder to find kosher meat instead of halal meat, but I guess you could eat both, since for both a prayer is said and such...

 

Not really, Muslims could eat the kosher, but the Jewish people could not eat the halal as kosher laws are stricter than halal laws regarding meats.

52.       Yersu
241 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 08:41 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared} geeez, is there any food that´s safe to eat, tasty and obtained in a non-abusive manner?

 

Move to a farm house and feed some sheep! We used to feed some, they are so friendly and cute animals. Of course it is kinda sad seeing them die, blood gushing out of their throat and whatnot..

 

A lot of Turkish children have some traumatic experience where they keep a small lamb for a year and befriend him, only to see it beheaded with ritual sacrifice. I used to think this was terrible but now I think it´s a great experience.

53.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 09:45 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

Move to a farm house and feed some sheep! We used to feed some, they are so friendly and cute animals. Of course it is kinda sad seeing them die, blood gushing out of their throat and whatnot..

 

A lot of Turkish children have some traumatic experience where they keep a small lamb for a year and befriend him, only to see it beheaded with ritual sacrifice. I used to think this was terrible but now I think it´s a great experience.

 

I grew up with chickens, ducks and rabbits.  My father used to hunt as well....so I used to have to deal with the pheasants, deer that he caught.  He felt the animal had a chance.  He even had a special dogs to get the birds.  The dog would point, then flush the birds out on signal...and go pick it up very gently and bring it back.

 

As a child I used to "play" with the rabbits.  Not really play, but I learned to wiggle my nose by looking at them.  Chickens were pretty, but not nice. I can do a perfect imitation of chickens. I think it gives you more respect for the circle of life. At least you have more knowledge where meat comes from and learn to respect.

 

I never had a lamb.  I did have some ducks, mallard ducks with beautiful iridescent green feathers. One day they went in the back yard to get them.....it was very upsettng.  I think a lamb must be more difficult.

 

Even today, I grow a lot of food I eat. Nothing big, just some greens, and seasonal things.  When you plant seeds, water and tend to things it give you more of an appreciation.  I´ve even got a bunch of mushrooms growing.

54.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 27 Jan 2010 Wed 12:39 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Not really, Muslims could eat the kosher, but the Jewish people could not eat the halal as kosher laws are stricter than halal laws regarding meats.

 

Oh, yes, sorry, I should have been more specific As a Muslim you could eat kosher meat. But I´m not 100% sure if it´s true because of the requirements of the prayer that is said.

 

By the way, that meat has a halal stamp isn´t a guarantee that the animal has been treated well nowadays. I´ve seen videos of a halal chickenmeat factory. The same machines for killing the chickens was used. The only difference was, that in a normal facory chickens are sedated first (often through electric shock, after this they don´t feel the cut), in the halal factory they are not. And the prayer in the halal factory is one a tape, that is played on a loop on speakers throughout the cutting-area. I think people have lost the whole point of halal meat there...

 

By the way, for the ones eating chocolate and wearing clothes (I think that´s most of the people on here, except for the few naked anti-chocolate people here). It IS possible to eat "good". There´s a chocolate bar called "Tony Chocolonely" which is guaranteed "slave free". It was created after a guy tried to sue himself for eating chocolate, while he was aware of it being created with the help of modern-day slavery. I think there are some other brands of chocolate who can give the same guarantee, just google a bit and you´ll be able to eat without guilt And clothes are even easier to have checked out. Get organic cotton brands, and often you can also check out where and how garments are made



Edited (1/27/2010) by barba_mama

55.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Jan 2010 Thu 01:23 am

I think I mentioned the fact that many halal butchers here have a sign stateing that the meat they carry has been hand slaughtered, rather than the mechanical recorded type.  Also, they also sell grass fed, none hormone treated meats.  I don´t buy any other type.  It probably depends on the area one is in.  I´m in the SF Bay area, so there is a greater demand for this type of product here.

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

Oh, yes, sorry, I should have been more specific As a Muslim you could eat kosher meat. But I´m not 100% sure if it´s true because of the requirements of the prayer that is said.

 

By the way, that meat has a halal stamp isn´t a guarantee that the animal has been treated well nowadays. I´ve seen videos of a halal chickenmeat factory. The same machines for killing the chickens was used. The only difference was, that in a normal facory chickens are sedated first (often through electric shock, after this they don´t feel the cut), in the halal factory they are not. And the prayer in the halal factory is one a tape, that is played on a loop on speakers throughout the cutting-area. I think people have lost the whole point of halal meat there...

 

By the way, for the ones eating chocolate and wearing clothes (I think that´s most of the people on here, except for the few naked anti-chocolate people here). It IS possible to eat "good". There´s a chocolate bar called "Tony Chocolonely" which is guaranteed "slave free". It was created after a guy tried to sue himself for eating chocolate, while he was aware of it being created with the help of modern-day slavery. I think there are some other brands of chocolate who can give the same guarantee, just google a bit and you´ll be able to eat without guilt And clothes are even easier to have checked out. Get organic cotton brands, and often you can also check out where and how garments are made

 

 

56.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 30 Jan 2010 Sat 04:53 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

By the way, for the ones eating chocolate and wearing clothes (I think that´s most of the people on here, except for the few naked anti-chocolate people here). It IS possible to eat "good". There´s a chocolate bar called "Tony Chocolonely" which is guaranteed "slave free". It was created after a guy tried to sue himself for eating chocolate, while he was aware of it being created with the help of modern-day slavery. I think there are some other brands of chocolate who can give the same guarantee, just google a bit and you´ll be able to eat without guilt

 

http://www.stopthetraffik.org/news/press/nestle.aspx (in several languages, including Turkish)

 

http://www.stopthetraffik.org/chocolateDownloads/chocolate_guide.pdf

 

The Fairtrade logo is a good guide too.

 

The list of chocolate manufacturers may not be exhaustive from a global point of view, but I´m sure there will be similar lists for different parts of the world.

 

Greene and Black´s Maya Gold is superb Smile

 

Products are usually marked if suitable for vegetarians too.



Edited (1/30/2010) by peacetrain [links aren´t clickable :(]

57.       yilgun-2010
572 posts
 08 Feb 2010 Mon 02:05 am

MOST HEALTHY FOODS – EN SAĞLIKLI YİYECEKLER

(An advice)

 -Olive -  zeytin

-Olive oil -  zeytinyağı

-Tea, Green Tea – yeşil çay

-Grape - üzüm

-Dry grape – kuru üzüm

-Tomato - domates

-Broccoli - brokoli

-Onion - soğan

-Garlic - sarmısak

-Fish- Sardine, Som –Somon- balık eti

-Cabbage - lahana

-Red Beet – kırmızı pancar

-Chard - pazı

-Spinach - ıspanak

-Egg - yumurta

-Meat-Veal, etc- kırmızı et

-Milk - süt

-Plum- Dry plum- erik

-Water, water after acidic beverage-su, asitli içecekten sonra su

- C , E vitamins



Edited (2/8/2010) by yilgun-2010
Edited (2/9/2010) by yilgun-2010

58.       ally81
461 posts
 08 Feb 2010 Mon 01:27 pm

 

Quoting yilgun-2010

MOST HEALTHY FOODS – EN SAĞLIKLI YİYECEKLER

(An advice)

 -Olive -  zeytin

-Olive oil -  zeytinyağı

-Tea, Green Tea – yeşil çay

-Wine, red wine-wineglass a day –günde bir bardak -

-Grape - üzüm

-Dry grape – kuru üzüm

-Tomato - domates

-Broccoli - brokoli

-Onion - soğan

-Garlic - sarmısak

-Fish- Sardine, Som –Somon- balık eti

-Cabbage - lahana

-Red Beet – kırmızı pancar

-Chard - pazı

-Spinach - ıspanak

-Egg - yumurta

-Meat-Veal, etc- kırmızı et

-Milk - süt

-Plum- Dry plum- erik

-Water, water after acidic beverage-su, asitli içecekten sonra su

- C , E vitamins

 

 Also, it´s good to drink this beer is ok, yay! good for bones

 

But don´t drink too much of this  cola and other fizzy sugary drinks is not good Cry too much can cause pancreatic cancer

 

this is also good advice for parents!



Edited (2/8/2010) by ally81 [edit]

59.       lady in red
6947 posts
 08 Feb 2010 Mon 08:28 pm

 

Quoting yilgun-2010

MOST HEALTHY FOODS – EN SAĞLIKLI YİYECEKLER

(An advice)

 -Olive -  zeytin

-Olive oil -  zeytinyağı

-Tea, Green Tea – yeşil çay

-Wine, red wine-wineglass a day –günde bir bardak -

-Grape - üzüm

-Dry grape – kuru üzüm

-Tomato - domates

-Broccoli - brokoli

-Onion - soğan

-Garlic - sarmısak

-Fish- Sardine, Som –Somon- balık eti

-Cabbage - lahana

-Red Beet – kırmızı pancar

-Chard - pazı

-Spinach - ıspanak

-Egg - yumurta

-Meat-Veal, etc- kırmızı et

-Milk - süt

-Plum- Dry plum- erik

-Water, water after acidic beverage-su, asitli içecekten sonra su

- C , E vitamins

 

 

 

Water and vitamins are not ´food´ - but if you are including vitamins, what´s wrong with Vitamins A, B, B-complex and K?  Red meat and eggs are only ´healthy´ in small amounts.

60.       libralady
5152 posts
 09 Feb 2010 Tue 03:08 pm

 

Quoting lemon

from my observations halal butchers are dirty. i dont know where do they take the idea of cleanness?

full of flies, blood full floors, animals dead or not together in one room. butchers and their assistants in dirty clothes spitting on every step. so disgusting.

 

james (that famous chef) was visiting one of the new york halal restaurants, and of course there was a sight of a butcher shop. i was appaled by his ignorance. if this was about one of the supermarkets he would give a negative comment, but for the sake of political correctness he acted as if things are normal.

 

eh, dont be offended, just sharing my opinion.

 

 

Very true Lemon.  I once watched this environmental health series on TV and they secretly filmed a restaurant where the majority of the workers were Muslims, and they were caught washing their feet in the sink where they wash the dishes.  How filthy is that?? 

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