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FREE THE SHMINISTIM – ISRAEL´S YOUNG CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS.
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1.       cedars
235 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 12:37 pm

FREE THE SHMINISTIM – ISRAEL´S YOUNG CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNjggLhQo6w

 

The Shministim are Israeli high school students who have been imprisoned for refusing to serve in an army that occupies the Palestinian Territories. December 18 marks the launch date of a global campaign to release them from jail. Join over 20,000 people including American conscientious objectors,Ronnie Gilbert, Adrienne Rich, Robert Meeropol, Adam Hochschild, Rabbi Lynn Gottleib, Howard Zinn, Rela Mazali, Debra Chasnoff, Ed Asner and Aurora Levins-Morales and show your support by contacting the Israeli Minister of Defense using the form below. 40,000 LETTERS AND COUNTING!

http://december18th.org/

2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:11 pm

Wow! Wow! Wow! Here is Canli´s and tamiki´s answer to the question why you can´t teach little children to hate all Jews!

3.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:29 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Wow! Wow! Wow! Here is Canli´s and tamiki´s answer to the question why you can´t teach little children to hate all Jews!

 

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

4.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:34 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 

As always, very constructive! lol

5.       CANLI
5084 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:45 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Wow! Wow! Wow! Here is Canli´s and tamiki´s answer to the question why you can´t teach little children to hate all Jews!

 

 Correction cat,

Ý never said we should teach anyone to hate Jews,my debat with handsom was exactly about there is difference between jews and israel

And that is what we should teach also to children

Because by just watching the news,children learn to hate without we teach them anything !

And that was my argument,that i fail to make it clear and gave up too

We dont teach anything...they do it themselves ´israel ´

Children watch the news ,and imagining themselves there

We also dont make children watch the news,but with news open every where for 24 hours,will children miss it ?!

Anyway my respect for those Ýsraelis .

6.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 04:49 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

 Correction cat,

Ý never said we should teach anyone to hate Jews,my debat with handsom was exactly about there is difference between jews and israel

 

My apologies for the misunderstanding.

7.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Jan 2009 Thu 09:52 pm

 

Quoting cedars

FREE THE SHMINISTIM – ISRAEL´S YOUNG CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNjggLhQo6w

 

The Shministim are Israeli high school students who have been imprisoned for refusing to serve in an army that occupies the Palestinian Territories. December 18 marks the launch date of a global campaign to release them from jail. Join over 20,000 people including American conscientious objectors,Ronnie Gilbert, Adrienne Rich, Robert Meeropol, Adam Hochschild, Rabbi Lynn Gottleib, Howard Zinn, Rela Mazali, Debra Chasnoff, Ed Asner and Aurora Levins-Morales and show your support by contacting the Israeli Minister of Defense using the form below. 40,000 LETTERS AND COUNTING!

http://december18th.org/

 

 Inspirational! I´m amazed there are only 40,000 letters. By the way, the first youtube link didn´t work.

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 07:52 am

I was first thinking that these people who refuse to go to the army must be Israeli Arabs, but I found out that Israeli Arabs are forbidden from joining the army, even if they want. Israeli Arabs are second class citizens..

9.       cedars
235 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 05:02 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 Inspirational! I´m amazed there are only 40,000 letters. By the way, the first youtube link didn´t work.

 

 The first link is for the video that is found also on the website on the second link (december18th.org)

I wonder however why it didnt work with you, it works fine here

10.       cedars
235 posts
 16 Jan 2009 Fri 05:14 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

I was first thinking that these people who refuse to go to the army must be Israeli Arabs, but I found out that Israeli Arabs are forbidden from joining the army, even if they want. Israeli Arabs are second class citizens..

 

 If I am not mistaken , for the exception of druze, israeli arabs are exempt from the obligatory military service however they have the freedom to enlist if they wish. You may find some bedouins from the desert al naqab (negev) in the army.

 

Althought Arab druze israeli males (druze females are exempt which is not the case for israeli jew females) have to serve in the army at the age of 19, they are still considered second class citizens. There are some grades in the army they are not allowed to reach and they are not allowed to join the airforce as far as i know.

 

 

 

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