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40.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 04:09 pm

 absolutely agree lol

someone starts talking rubbish and then everyone gets punished.

nice moderation!

 

Quoting thehandsom

I think after these slang matches, people always forget who started it..

 

 

41.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 04:10 pm

 take it easy, LIR, i love reading them what i would read if not them? translation requests?

 

Quoting lady in red

Give it a rest you two!  It´s becoming boring for the rest of us - take it to pm or to the playground after school please or the thread will be locked.  Thank you for your (anticipated) co-operation! 

 

 

42.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 05:53 pm

Hey again clown... I guess I have to spend the rest of my life writing replies to your posts.

 

The only reason why you got my life story is because you made a statement about how you think you have lived in the West longer and, therefore, know more than me or others, who care to reply to your dumb posts. Had you not been irrelevant enough to make that statement in the first place, I would not have to share my story with you. As usual, it is impossible to get anything through that thick head of yours unless we have a sledge-hammer in hand.

 

What I find amazing about you as a prime-degree-board-clown is that you almost exclusively post in the politics section, and your manner of posting is often deliberately biased. You present issues with charged titles, and biased words so that you can get a rise out of people. You present issues as if such issues exist only in Turkey, and nowhere else. When people bring similar issues in other countries, and highligh that injustice or oppression is not something unique to Turkey, you accuse them of being brainwashed in rhetorics. They are immediately labelled as individualls who are incapable of acknowledging the realities of their own country. And you do get replies from others who happen to find your posts to be biased and outright idiotic. I know how you hate the way your stupidity is exposed, when people show how your arguments do not really hold water much of the time. If anyone dares to reply to you in an intellectual manner, point at the gaps in your logic and demonstrate that you may have to rethink some of the things you say, you turn bitter. When such individuals present their ideas about the matter and disagree with you, your usual tactic is to call them fascists, racists, or nationalists. Somehow, when people disagree with your dumb ass, they immediately fall into the category of those, who are ignorant of the realities of Turkey and the rest of the world. As a result, these individuals also call you out for the true moron that you are. When this happens, you turn ape-shit accusing people of not being able to reply to your posts with ideas.

 

Why do you constantly stir shit up, and get annoyed when some of that shit is rubbed in your own face? Why don´t you try to make your posts with a neutral tone and without bias so that people can actually have a civilized discussion without having shit rubbed on their faces or without having to rub shit on your face? I´ll tell you why. Because you choose not to. You are not really interested in having a decent conversation. You are interested in stirring shit (for whatever reason). You are not interested in discussing the issues that you seem to post about. You are interested in annoying people - in most cases annoying Turks.

 

I will tell you why most Turks get annoyed by your posts. We are aware of the many problems that you talk about. Many are aware that  Turkey is in a state of transition, and that there are still many things wrong about many of its policies and institutions. Issues, such as injustice to minorities, police brutality, bogus legislations, such as the Turkishness etc, oppression of the public, lack of freedom of speech regarding certain topics, and many others exist all over the world. Same or similar problems exist in the developed word, just as they exist in the developing countries, or even in dictatorships. Just like you, we also read the paper and watch the news. Just like you we also get enraged by injustice and oppressive policies. Just like you, many of us dream of a better world, where people are no longer oppressed and are in control of their lives hoping to achieve their dreams. We do get enraged though when half-ass-clowns like you try to rub shit on our faces. You cannot really blame us for being intolerant to little assholes like you. As much as we are aware of Turkey´s problems, we are also hopeful that, one day in the future, we will overcome these issues and make Turkey a better place. Whether you call that a love for one´s country, patriotism, being brainwashed, or a desire for a more just society does not really matter. The desire for a better future is in everyone´s heart whether Turkish, Kurdish, American, or Eskimo. When you can bring yourself to accept realities not as exclusively Turkish realities, but as realities pertaining to human nature in general, then you will understand how pointless most of your posts in the politics section are.

 

Additionally, I have noticed that you seem to participate almost exclusively in the politics section. I initially came across this site noticing that it was a language site intended to help foreigners trying to learn Turkish. My initial participation was in the langauge section, and I do try to help others with their language related questions. It takes my time, and I don´t get paid for it. But, I am happy that there is a site like this - for free - offering help to those interested in the Turkish language & culture. Hence, I do share what I can. That was of course before I noticed that there was a politcs section as well. That was also before I started reading your idiotic posts, and replies. I apologize for not being able to restrain myself when it comes to responding to your fundamentally stupid statements. I wish I could, but the depth of the stupidity & bias, not to mention the logic of illogicality, you display irritates me to my core. Why don´t you, for example, as a fellow Turk, take as much time to participate in the language forum helping others learn the Turkish langauge as you do in the politics forum stirring shit up? Every other day, you clip articles from papers, and post crap trying deliberately to annoy people, while pretending to be an impartial individual, who happens to be deeply concerned about Turkey & its policies. This is primarily a language forum. Why don´t you shift your sorry ass out of the politics section and try offering or sharing something of substance in the language section instead of stirring shit all the time? Is it because you are actually here not to share but to annoy?

 

There is nothing wrong with participating in the politics section only, and staying out of the language forum. However, there is something wrong with the manner in which you post your garbage. You know perfectly well that there are other ways to post & talk about the issues you seem to be interested in without rubbing shit on people´s faces. And you are not the only one. There are a couple of other clowns on this board who do exactly the same thing. It is as if stirring shit is like fetish that they cannot give up. I don´t know. It must be orgasmic or something. Why are you angry anyway? Were you not looking to get a rise out of people by your posts in the first place? You don´t strike me as an individual, who has a clean heart or an intention to share his thoughts and understand others. You don´t strike me as an honest fellow either.

 

Keep posting your garbage; keep rubbing shit on people´s faces, and see how some of that shit will be rubbed back on your face.

43.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 05:58 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Hey again clown... I guess I have to spend the rest of my life writing replies to your posts.

 

I guess you need more slapping..haha lol

Anyway, i will come back to you..

44.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:07 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

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 Slogan of the Turkish tourist board: ´Turkish people are friendly and polite´.

45.       lady in red
6947 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:08 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

 

Additionally, I have noticed that you seem to participate almost exclusively in the politics section.

 

This is primarily a language forum. Why don´t you shift your sorry ass out of the politics section and try offering or sharing something of substance in the language section instead of stirring shit all the time? Is it because you are actually here not to share but to annoy?

 

 

Actually - you are completely wrong here - maybe you don´t read any other forums.  Thehandsom frequently does translations for people in the translation forum and  also posts, and translates, Turkish poetry to English in the poetry section.  He also posts a lot of information about Turkish music and literature and assesses homework in the beginner´s Turkish classes.  In fact I don´t think there is a forum he doesn´t post in!   He may annoy you but that certainly isn´t his only reason for posting!

 

 

46.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:13 pm

In that case, I apologize for that. Obviously, he does participate in the language forum then. I just haven´t seen that many since I have been here. Either way though I think he does like to stir shit up in the politics forum just for the sake of doing so.

Quoting lady in red

 

Quoting cynicmystic

 

Additionally, I have noticed that you seem to participate almost exclusively in the politics section.

 

This is primarily a language forum. Why don´t you shift your sorry ass out of the politics section and try offering or sharing something of substance in the language section instead of stirring shit all the time? Is it because you are actually here not to share but to annoy?

 

 

Actually - you are completely wrong here - maybe you don´t read any other forums.  Thehandsom frequently does translations for people in the translation forum and  also posts, and translates, Turkish poetry to English in the poetry section.  He also posts a lot of information about Turkish music and literature and assesses homework in the beginner´s Turkish classes.  In fact I don´t think there is a forum he doesn´t post in!   He may annoy you but that certainly isn´t his only reason for posting!

 

 

 

 

47.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:22 pm

We are just people. Just like you are. Some are polite and others are not. Some are polite from time to time. In other times, they take excursions into crudity. The fact that you take my perceived crudity and apply it as a generalization on the rest of Turks shows clearly that you like to categorize.

 

Any other generalizations that you would like to impose on the rest of Turks based on my post?

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Slogan of the Turkish tourist board: ´Turkish people are friendly and polite´.

 

 

48.       Trudy
7887 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:36 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Any other generalizations that you would like to impose on the rest of Turks based on my post?

 

 Nah, the opposite maybe.

49.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:39 pm

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Keep posting your garbage; keep rubbing shit on people´s faces, and see how some of that shit will be rubbed back on your face.

 

As I said, I will come back to this and answer..

But boy, boy, boy..

Look at yourself.. Look at how angry you are, how pathetic you look..

Again, before answering, I will say the same thing..

Have you ever been answering any of MY POSTS without calling names?

Have you?

And anybody who is ACCUSING ME being in this slang match, how can you forget that fact?

I mean the fact that I do post something and they NEVER EVER REPLY

UNABLE TO REPLY AND START name calling..

lol

 



Edited (2/20/2009) by thehandsom

50.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 20 Feb 2009 Fri 06:46 pm

It still doesn´t change the fact that your posts in the politcs section are often biased and are intended to annoy. Try a more mellow approach, and you will see that the discussion will be on a more intellectual level. You call people names, too by the way. I have responded to your posts intellectually in the past, and have resorted to name calling once name calling was imposed on me & others by you.

 

Regarding my misconception that you do not contribute to the language forum, I stand corrected. My bad. But, it still doesn´t change the fact that you like to stir shit up in the politics section on purpose. Be impartial, and you will see how impartial others can be.

 

More important though, try to be honest.

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

As I said, I will come back to this and answer..

But boy, boy, boy..

Look at yourself.. Look at how angry you are, how pathetic you look..

Again, before answering, I will say the same thing..

Have you ever answering any of MY POSTS without calling names?

Have you?

And anybody who is ACCUSING ME being in this slang match, how can you forget that fact?

 

 

 

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