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200.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 04:10 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well I would not want to feel same as you tobe honest or any of the nationalistic people..

And I dont want any of you giving anything to my country either.

My country does not need any of the feelings you have.

Sky rocketing, racistic nationalism is making my country very dirty and i find that type nationalism quite dangerous for our national unity..

 

 

 we love our country if you call this nationalism yes Im nationalist and Im proud of it. I dont think it s dangerous to love my country. but it s dangerous for my country if someone, like you, accepts and believes whatever some columnists wrote about turkey and post it to everywhere to show as if there is a genocide against other nations in turkey. and someone who always denies every special thing about turkey as u posted some comments about out national events.

 

I really wonder what u give to my country except insulting every special thing about turkey???

and making ppl believe different about turkey???

 

201.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 04:13 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

 we love our country if you call this nationalism yes Im nationalist and Im proud of it. I dont think it s dangerous to love my country. but it s dangerous for my country if someone, like you, accepts and believes whatever some columnists wrote about turkey and post it to everywhere to show as if there is a genocide against other nations in turkey. and someone who always denies every special thing about turkey as u posted some comments about out national events.

 

I really wonder what u give to my country except insulting every special thing about turkey???

and making ppl believe different about turkey???

 

 

 I don´t think there is anything wrong with loving your country.  However, it does become a problem when you can´t accept it´s good and bad points together.

 

 

202.       adana
416 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 04:41 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I don´t think there is anything wrong with loving your country.  However, it does become a problem when you can´t accept it´s good and bad points together.

 

 

 Every country has its drawbacks to more or less extend,the thing that becomes a problem is ,in my opinion ,when drawbacks are more intensively exposed and used as a basis to form foreigners´ opinions about this particular country.This happens in case of Turkey,travelling across EU and living in some of EU countries I haven´t noticed positive advertising of Turkey in media apart touristic spots.

On the contrary Turkey is depicted as underdeveloped country, which works as a deterent  to accept it to EU.

No wonder that those who love their country ,trying to emphasise its good points,are sooner or later called nationalists here.

 

 

 

203.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 04:47 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I don´t think there is anything wrong with loving your country.  However, it does become a problem when you can´t accept it´s good and bad points together.

 

 

 

I am not sure we are talking about the right concept here..

We are talking about people, allagedly loving their country so much that they can even kill others who think that they are the enemy of the country..

Hrant Dink got killed with the same feelings for example..

According to them you have to love your country the way they want...You can not come up and say that I do love my country but this is wrong or this was wrong in the past..

That is why they planned to kill Orhan Pamuk for instance..

We are NOT talking about love of a country here..We are talking about something else..

204.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 04:52 pm

 

Quoting adana

 

 Every country has its drawbacks to more or less extend,the thing that becomes a problem is ,in my opinion ,when drawbacks are more intensively exposed and used as a basis to form foreigners´ opinions about this particular country. 

 

 

 

This is a common misconception.  People do not change their minds about a country just because of a few newspaper articles, or posts.  People are on this site because they have an interest in Turkey, and unless you are of a very weak character, you are not going to change your mind about the country as a whole - are YOU so easily swayed in your opinions?

 

If anything, the opposite is true. For example, posts like Chiko´s Survey increase my liking for Turkey and Turks because they are brave enough to criticise and I think "yeah they are just like us".  Posts where every bad thing is denied just makes me see Turkey as some kind of regime.

205.       adana
416 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 05:05 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

This is a common misconception.  People do not change their minds about a country just because of a few newspaper articles, or posts. PEOPLE haven´t a clue about Turkey,I mean an average EU citizen who is not a member of TLC

 People are on this site because they have an interest in Turkey, and unless you are of a very weak character, you are not going to change your mind about the country as a whole - are YOU so easily swayed in your opinions?I WAS not talking about TLC members,I strongly believe everyone here has an opinion about the country and its policies,stable opinions so easily visible in many threads

 

If anything, the opposite is true. For example, posts like Chiko´s Survey increase my liking for Turkey and Turks because they are brave enough to criticise and I think " WAITING FOR IT but I hope more data will be provided..what about survey among members??

yeah they are just like us".  Posts where every bad thing is denied just makes me see Turkey as some kind of regime.

Do you really think people deny things?

The misconception for me is throwing names so easily and labelling .

 

 

206.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 05:12 pm

I think people worldwide generally have not much idea about other countries unless they´re genuinely interested in them. Usually they operate on stereotypes.

207.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:47 pm

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

I dont understand why you only request this from CANLI, TC has six moderators following this section like libralady, Sui, lady in Red.  Was only CANLI online at that time? Did you send pm’s to the other moderators? Apparently, there has been a continuing injustice campaign against CANLI directed by gang members ,  i think she tries her best as a moderator...

 

 I agree.

208.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 11:59 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 I agree.

 

 Actually I agree too....

209.       mltm
3690 posts
 25 Feb 2009 Wed 12:09 am

yep, CANLI has become "þamar oðlaný" for some.

210.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Feb 2009 Wed 12:10 am

what is it you all are agreeing really? 

Canli might be trying her best but with her performance as a mod is terrible...

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