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Honour Killings and Suicides
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40.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:32 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

suicide, honour kilings and other middle age events are only seen among kurdish ppl, especially Diyarbakýr, batman ....

 it s strange that those ppl shout and choose terrorism for human right.

and it s really funny, kurdish politicians talk about women rights in their politics all the time.

 

 Well, I am not sure of the prevelance of honor killings in Turkey amoung Turks V. Kurds (honestly I don´t know), but it seems to happen all over the world and not just Turkey.   Besides, pawning it off as a "Kurdish" problem is kind of irresponsible.  This is occuring in your country Jan, to citizens of Turkey.  It shouldn´t matter that they are Kurdish.Confused

 

As a women, it is hard to sit back and watch this issue go on and on as men sit back and talk/fight/kill but make absolutely no progress in improving this situation for so many women.  Women have no power in these situations/part of the world and it is a helpless feeling for those of us who can only sit back and read these horrible articles!



Edited (3/27/2009) by Elisabeth

41.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:45 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Well, I am not sure of the prevelance of honor killings in Turkey amoung Turks V. Kurds (honestly I don´t know), but it seems to happen all over the world and not just Turkey.   Besides, pawning it off as a "Kurdish" problem is kind of irresponsible.  This is occuring in your country Jan, to citizens of Turkey.  It shouldn´t matter that they are Kurdish.Confused

 

As a women, it is hard to sit back and watch this issue go on and on as men sit back and talk/fight/kill but make absolutely no progress in improving this situation for so many women.  Women have no power in these situations/part of the world and it is a helpless feeling for those of us who can only sit back and read these horrible articles!

 

 Come on!!!

 

when I called kurdish ppl turkish citizen, they called me racist on this site

I dont know how to call them.

but this is a reallity that these events only seen in this region.

honour killings that happens in big cities are also come from tis region.

 

42.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:02 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

 

 Come on!!!

 

when I called kurdish ppl turkish citizen, they called me racist on this site

I dont know how to call them.

but this is a reallity that these events only seen in this region.

honour killings that happens in big cities are also come from tis region.

 

 

 Well, actually, I wasn´t trying to disagree with you. 

 

It does seem to happen more in Eastern Turkey than in ohter parts of the country but I don´t know any statistics.  It is sad that it happens anywhere...I just find it very heart breaking in general. 

43.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:06 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

 

 Come on!!!

 

when I called kurdish ppl turkish citizen, they called me racist on this site

I dont know how to call them.

but this is a reallity that these events only seen in this region.

honour killings that happens in big cities are also come from tis region.

 

Janis, it´s not the fact that you called them Turkish citizens that caused that label. It´s the fact that you wanted them to forget their ethnicity and consider themselves Turks (not as citizenship but ethnic group). We all argued that they should have the right to celebrate their ethnicity while being Turkish citizens with full rights. Your government should first make them feel part of Turkey instead of making them "Turkishised" by force, by banning their language, holidays etc.

 

Also I think that there should be a national campaign against honour killings carried out not only by religious institutions but also religious leaders. And the perpetrators should be severely punished.

 

44.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:13 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

Janis, it´s not the fact that you called them Turkish citizens that caused that label. It´s the fact that you wanted them to forget their ethnicity and consider themselves Turks (not as citizenship but ethnic group). We all argued that they should have the right to celebrate their ethnicity while being Turkish citizens with full rights. Your government should first make them feel part of Turkey instead of making them "Turkishised" by force, by banning their language, holidays etc.

 

Also I think that there should be a national campaign against honour killings carried out not only by religious institutions but also religious leaders. And the perpetrators should be severely punished.

 

 

 I dont have any problem with kurdish ppl, as I told many times I have many kurdish friends.

I m just against PKK supporters. some ppl try to show me different here.

 

of course honour killings are really horrible. this can be solve with education

 

 

45.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:18 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

 

 I dont have any problem with kurdish ppl, as I told many times I have many kurdish friends.

I m just against PKK supporters. some ppl try to show me different here.

 

of course honour killings are really horrible. this can be solve with education

 

 

 

 Point taken.  I think everyone can agree here that any type of terrorism/honor killings and suicides are just inexcuseable.   But I think we, as humans, have a responsibility to address the root causes of them....no matter who/where they come from.



Edited (3/27/2009) by Elisabeth

46.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:24 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Point taken.  I think everyone can agree here that any type of terrorism/honor killings and suicides are just inexcuseable.   But I think we, as humans, have a responsibility to address the root causes of them....no matter who/where they come from.

 

 good,

 

47.       sheena
308 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:59 pm

Quoting thehandsome

You have dishonoured your family, please kill yourself

 

"honour killings" in Turkey have reached record levels. According to government figures, there are more than 200 a year – half of all the murders committed in the country. Now, in a sinister twist, comes the emergence of "honour suicides". The growing phenomenon has been linked to reforms to Turkey´s penal code in 2005. That introduced mandatory life sentences for honour killers, whereas in the past, killers could receive a reduced sentence claiming provocation. Soon after the law was passed, the numbers of female suicides started to rocket.

..

Killing for Honour will be shown on Channel 4 tonight at 7.35pm


http://www.independent.co.uk/n...red-your-family-please-kill-yourself-1655373.html

 

This is so unbelievabe this day and age. Surely the government could have educated people over the past years. Even the remotest villages have access to the media, and this has been going on for so long that changing Turkey´s penal code alone was not enough to change the way of thinking.

I for one will be watching with interest the programe on channel 4 tonight.

48.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Mar 2009 Sat 01:23 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

This map has been circulating for a few years now

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=36919

The U.S. State Department assured Ankara that the map did not reflect the official American view, and denounced it as unacceptable.

He was  prepared by a retired soldier..and US has already apologized for it.

I dont think we should take it seriously and show it as a proof for our paranoia which dates back  way before that map.

 

Exactly.....it´s been going on a looooong time.

 

49.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Mar 2009 Sat 01:33 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Exactly.....it´s been going on a looooong time.

 

 

Since almost the begining of our republic..

In fact we spent our entire life with that paranoia..

50.       CANLI
5084 posts
 28 Mar 2009 Sat 01:38 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Since almost the begining of our republic..

In fact we spent our entire life with that paranoia..

 

 Better being paranoid than sorry, wouldnt you say ?!

Specially with the current events we have in the area .

 

Only if Saddam was a little bit paranoid !

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