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Freedom of Speech
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:08 pm |
And I disagree with this. Not because of the Turkish (or Polish) anthem - I don´t think I´ve heard them but because anthems are not always chosen by people from now. I can only say about mine. Written somewhere in the 1600´s with a text that says ´of German blood´ and ´obeying the King of Spain´ (who THEN ruled my country. Well, I AM proud of my country (and its history) most of the times but I don´t feel any bonds with German blood or the Spanish King. If people want to critisize that or mock about it: be my guest.
Yeah, that is true...
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:13 pm |
because you both do not come from the country whose freedom was gained by blood shed on the battlefields and our values simply differ but even your origin does not give you the right to mock at other countries anthems.Enjoy mocking at yours if you feel the need .
Ho ho, you don´t know a thing about my countries history. Many wars with many victims were at battlefields: fighting the Spain (Inquisition), the French (Napoleon), the Germans (WW II) and many situations more. It´s just that I think that events of centuries ago should be seen with nowadays views. And happily my freedom of speech gives me the right to mock. If yours limit you, so be it.
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:16 pm |
ok, i dont know how to mock your anthem.
and what the f..k anyone started with anthem insulting as if anyone did indeed?
trudy, stop mocking the turkish- polish anthems.
dont you see how angry you made adana and catwoman by constant mocking their anthems?
didnt you have enough mocking turkish anthems making people like janissary angry and defensive?
stop im fed up with your anthem mocking posts that you produce every wedndesday.
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:17 pm |
catwoman says that these thoughts are personal and not belongs to TC. but one of your moderator wrote one of these posts. and u didnt warn any of these members. I saw ur site rules probably it s written after these events. but u still have responsibility.
it s normal that foreign ppl think ataturk was dictator. coz he established a modern country. that s why they wont like him. if we are not like iran we owe all this to ataturk. we mustnt forget that it was the western countries who supported iran regime and created a region based state. it s an interesting contradiction. we are lucky that we had a leader like Ataturk.
MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATÜRK´s ADDRESS TO TURKISH YOUTH Turkish Youth, Your first duty is to preserve and to defend Turkish Independence and the Turkish Republic forever. This is the very foundation of your existence and your future. This foundation is your most precious treasure. In the future, too, there may be malevolent people at home and abroad, who will wish to deprive you of this treasure. If some day you are compelled to defend your independence and your Republic, you must not hesitate to weigh the possibilities and circumstances of the situation before doing your duty. These possibilities and circumstances may turn out to be extremely unfavourable. The enemies conspiring against your independence and your Republic may have behind them a victory unprecedented in the annals of the world. It may be that, by violence and trickery, all the fortresses of your beloved fatherland may be captured, all its shipyards occupied, all its armies dispersed and every corner of the country invaded. And sadder and graver than all these circumstances, those who hold power within the country may be in error, misguided and may even be traitors. Furthermore, they may identify personal interests with the political designs of the invaders. The country may be impoverished, ruined and exhausted. Youth of Turkey´s future, even in such circumstances it is your duty to save Turkish Independence and the Republic. You will find the strength you need in your noble blood.
Edited (4/1/2009) by TheJanissary
[moderator jan]
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:17 pm |
Ho ho, you don´t know a thing about my countries history. Many wars with many victims were at battlefields: fighting the Spain (Inquisition), the French (Napoleon), the Germans (WW II) and many situations more. It´s just that I think that events of centuries ago should be seen with nowadays views. And happily my freedom of speech gives me the right to mock. If yours limit you, so be it.
shhhhhhhhhh
let them feel more heroic when they speak about their countries.
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:18 pm |
ok, i dont know how to mock your anthem.
and what the f..k anyone started with anthem insulting as if anyone did indeed?
trudy, stop mocking the turkish- polish anthems.
dont you see how angry you made adana and catwoman by constant mocking their anthems?
didnt you have enough mocking turkish anthems making people like janissary angry and defensive?
stop im fed up with your anthem mocking posts that you produce every wedndesday.
Should I feel ashamed or scared? Sorry honey, I´m not.
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:21 pm |
Ho ho, you don´t know a thing about my countries history. Many wars with many victims were at battlefields: fighting the Spain (Inquisition), the French (Napoleon), the Germans (WW II) and many situations more. It´s just that I think that events of centuries ago should be seen with nowadays views. And happily my freedom of speech gives me the right to mock. If yours limit you, so be it.
Do not compare amount of Polish blood lost fighting for our AND OTHER NATIONS FREEDOM to Dutch one as you appear not to know our history as well.)
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:24 pm |
Well, cat, as someone who spends a lot of time on TC, I obviously enjoy it. I have never felt like my personal freedoms have been limited by mod/admin actions although, at times, my feelings have been hurt or I have gotten angry at another member. Neither of these situations is your fault nor the fault of TC. I don´t expect mods/admin to ever intervene because of my personal feelings.
Edited (4/1/2009) by Elisabeth
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:27 pm |
Should I feel ashamed or scared? Sorry honey, I´m not.
no, you must be removed from this site. coz you write blasphemous posts every 15 minutes.
have you learnt turkish anthem by heart before entering this site? and do you sing it every morning?
polish anthem is a must song, you should sing it twice a day (this is only for evil dutch).
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 08:34 pm |
polish anthem is a must song, you should sing it twice a day (this is only for evil dutch).
You are forcing Trudy to go beyond impossible,will she be able to learn all stanzas of´Mazurek Dabrowskiego"?
But it is not the end of her education on anthems,she should also be familiar with BOGURODZICA,to which we have such national addiction,btw our former anthem)
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 09:26 pm |
lets laugh together canim
tell me more about western paranoia. it doesnt sound familiar to me.
Just look around you....on these boards as well. On another thread tamikidakika speaks of a poll which suggests american paranoia towards muslims. Turks don´t have the monopoly on paranoia. Indeed if you were to mingle with the thousands of my fellow scots in Hamden tonight and pass disparaging remarks about Scotland you might encounter scots paranoia in some form or another.
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