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30.       bydand
755 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 09:26 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 lol lets laugh together canim lol

 

tell me more about western paranoia. it doesnt sound familiar to me.

 

 Just look around you....on these boards as well. On another thread tamikidakika speaks of a poll which suggests american paranoia towards muslims. Turks don´t have the monopoly on paranoia. Indeed if you were to mingle with the thousands of my fellow scots in Hamden tonight and pass disparaging remarks about Scotland you might encounter scots paranoia in some form or another.

31.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 09:38 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 Just look around you....on these boards as well. On another thread tamikidakika speaks of a poll which suggests american paranoia towards muslims. Turks don´t have the monopoly on paranoia. Indeed if you were to mingle with the thousands of my fellow scots in Hamden tonight and pass disparaging remarks about Scotland you might encounter scots paranoia in some form or another.

 

I agree with this comment (!!).  As I mentioned in a post recently, if you feel you are not a victim of scare-mongering and propaganda in the west, then you are living in dream world.  You only have to read newspapers like the Daily Mail and the Daily Express to see how they love to spread paranoia....

 

32.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 09:44 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 Just look around you....on these boards as well. On another thread tamikidakika speaks of a poll which suggests american paranoia towards muslims. Turks don´t have the monopoly on paranoia. Indeed if you were to mingle with the thousands of my fellow scots in Hamden tonight and pass disparaging remarks about Scotland you might encounter scots paranoia in some form or another.

 

scots are evil

 

33.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 09:52 pm

I am sure you have noticed that I was trying to avoid writing anything as response this..

But lets cut the crap here..

Janis is talking about me here and we had this argument before and somehow we keep getting the same thing again and again(He was not very successful earlier in my view, god knows why he thinks he will be  this time)

Lets start:

-National anthem. I remember saying that music our national anthem ´might have been taken´ somewhere from the west from a song called ´Carmen Silva´. 

By saying this, do you think i am disrespecting our national anthem? 

I have also critizised the words in our national anthem by saying that it contains some racist words..

This is the first two section we keep singing 30 times a week :

 

Fear not! For the crimson flag that proudly ripples in this glorious twilight, shall not fade,

Before the last fiery hearth that is ablaze within my nation is extinguished.

For That is the star of my nation, and it will forever shine;

It is mine; and solely belongs to my valiant nation.


Frown not, I beseech you, oh thou coy crescent,

But smile upon my heroic race! Why the anger, why the rage? ¹

This blood of ours which we shed for you shall not be blessed otherwise;

For Freedom is the absolute right of my God-worshiping nation.

 

I am saying what I said before again!!

By saying this, do you think i am disrespecting our national anthem? 

If some people think so, and raging with anger because of me saying that thenm too bad for them..

They can say whatever they like!! I did not care what they said previously, there is no indication from my part that I will take them more seriously this time..

 

-Ataturk..

Ataturk was not a god..Trying to think Ataturk was a god, itself is an insult to Ataturk..

He could be considered as a dictator in ´his time´ with today´s values..But so what?

He was a great politician as well as a one of the greatest soldier Turks have ever seen..As every soul in this world lies at some stage in life, I am sure he lied too..But so?

But he was a person for god´s sake..

"What he has done can NOT be shadowed"  him being a dictator or he lied..

He was not a pagan god..

By saying this, do you think I am disrespecting Ataturk? 

If some people think so and jumping up and down with anger because of me saying that, then, sorry but they will keep jumping up and down, higher and higher!!!

-And about respecting the dead people; because he died etc..

I have every single right to ´not to feel sorry´ about a person who died and I have every right to ´not to respect´ a person because he died..

As I said you can accuse me about it as much as you can accuse ´a Chilian not feeling sorry because of Pinochet died´. 

And I made it claer about it in the relevant thread when I said, I can bring you the list about what murders he was associated with´. 

Anyway..

The truth is, I am getting increasingly annoyed about the fact that people keep answering me with the swearings only. 

It is tiring and annoying. 

 

34.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 10:06 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

1. catwoman says that these thoughts are personal and not belongs to TC. but one of your moderator wrote one of these posts. and u didnt warn any of these members. I saw ur site rules probably it s written after these events. but u still have responsibility.

 

 

2. it s normal that foreign ppl think ataturk was dictator. coz he established a modern country. that s why they wont like him. if we are not like iran we owe all this to ataturk. we mustnt forget that it was the western countries who supported iran regime and created a region based state. it s an interesting contradiction. we are lucky that we had a leader like Ataturk.

 

1. Views of moderators and administrators do not represent the views of the site. TurkishClass.com website and its owners are not responsible for the opinions of site users.

 

2. This is your opinion (and one of many others), some may want to debate some details of this topic with you. Fortunately, they are able to do it on TC.

35.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 10:07 pm

im tired of this.

 

im tired of scotts who are full of hatred and ready to crucify everyone not-scottish. barbarians!

 

im tired of americans who hate 6 million muslims in their own soil.

 

im tired of europeans who are so much intolerant and fascist that they turn the lives of non-europeans into hell.

 

 

36.       ISKOC
12 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 10:38 pm

Quote:Femmeous

im tired of scotts who are full of hatred and ready to crucify everyone not-scottish. barbarians!

 

A minority are like this yeah but not all !!  Has a Scot upset you???

 

But I certainly respect your freedom of speech in using the word barbarians <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

37.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 10:52 pm

 

Quoting ISKOC

Quote:Femmeous

im tired of scotts who are full of hatred and ready to crucify everyone not-scottish. barbarians!

 

A minority are like this yeah but not all !!  Has a Scot upset you???

 

But I certainly respect your freedom of speech in using the word barbarians <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

 

yes, theres one scott on here.

 

thank you for respecting my freedom. do you also belong to barbarians or are you one of those who cant be insulted COZ they think they are holy cows?

 

38.       ISKOC
12 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:00 pm

Quote: Femmeous

thank you for respecting my freedom. do you also belong to barbarians or are you one of those who cant be insulted COZ they think they are holy cows?

 

Well !!!!   I would say neither cos I don´t think Im a barbarian and I can take an insult easy, no problems !!  Everyone has an opinion and even if I disagree with it, I don´t get offended or insulted Big smile

Insult away <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

 

39.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:04 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 holy cows?

 

 

 I thought all of us bed Amerikans were the Holy Cows! 

40.       femmeous
2642 posts
 01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:08 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I thought all of us bed Amerikans were the Holy Cows! 

 

 im fed up with holy cows.

im searching for your anthem to mock it. help me.

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