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1.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 06:31 pm

DOes any body who is not Turkish need to be TUrk to love Turkey?should foreign people say: I can not say they are not terrorist even they killed babies, and 30000 turkish and kurdish people?People who doesnt say they are terrorist, should leave Turkishclass webpage, shouldnt learn turkish, shouldnt visit Turkey..We dont need enemy, we need friends.Welcome friends.



Edited (5/28/2009) by oscarray [wrong word]

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 06:47 pm

Strange text. Do you mean that people who visit Turkey (on regular base or not) or who plan to do that cannot critisize the country?

3.       lady in red
6947 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 06:55 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Strange text. Do you mean that people who visit Turkey (on regular base or not) or who plan to do that cannot critisize the country?

 

I think he´s saying that we must ´call a terrorist a terrorist´ or we shouldn´t learn Turkish or be a member of Turkish Class or visit Turkey.

 

I was about to say ´Welcome to Turkish Class´ oscarray - but I see you have been a member for over 2 years.  I wonder what prompted you to post in the forum after all this time?

4.       vineyards
1954 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 07:41 pm

While I don´t want to label the person who started this thread (since I can´t understand what he really means) but what he wrote calls to mind a few thoughts not necessarily relevant to this person.

 

There are indeed a few schools of thought in Turkey producing millions of pre-formatted minds capable of only producing one sort of mentalily. These people have a problem with Western values although they have no problem enjoying the positive aspects of it.  With their minds narrowed down to running around  a few iron-clad cliches they are quick to answer criticisim and stay afloat no matter how deep the quagmire of their ignorance is.  Anyone only  capable of producing a colored thought bearing the signatures of a certain subculture  or a certain restrictive ideology at the expense of reason and universal truth  is nothing more than a miserable person.

 

You can use many arguments to blame the West today. The most striking examples being the newly revealed evidence of large scale torture in Guantanamo and two other US camps. You could point out to the crimes committed by the Bush administration. You could recall what Kennedy said about secret organizations within society and use these as excuses to position yourself as an enemy of the West. 

 

At the end of the day, there are so many bad things about the West but essentially, there are a lot more good things that came from it.  Our own culture is a product of the thousands of years of interaction between both West and East. 

 

I see nothing wrong in having an idea different from all others´. This is actually a sign of a creative mind. I sometimes wish all those Armenians and Greeks to visit Turkey once in a while. This way, I believe many of the stereotypes about Turkey will be shattered. I also wish a greater number of Turkish people could freely travel around the world which will help them broaden their visions.

 

Last but not least, we don´t need enemies, we need friends...



Edited (5/28/2009) by vineyards
Edited (5/28/2009) by vineyards

5.       Trudy
7887 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 07:51 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

While I don´t want to label the person who started this thread (since I can´t understand what he really means) but what he wrote calls to mind a few thoughts not necessarily relevant to this person.

 

There are indeed a few schools of thought in Turkey producing millions of pre-formatted minds capable of only producing one sort of mentalily. These people have a problem with Western values although they have no problem enjoying the positive aspects of it.  With their minds narrowed down to running around  a few iron-clad cliches they are quick to answer criticisim and stay afloat no matter how deep the quagmire of their ignorance is.  Anyone only  capable of producing a colored bearing the signatures of a certain subculture  or a certain restrictive ideology at the expense of reason and universal truth  is nothing more than a miserable person.

 

You can use many arguments to blame the West today. The most striking examples being the newly revealed evidence of large scale torture in Guantanamo and two other US camps. You could point out to the crimes committed by the Bush administration. You could recall what Kennedy said about secret organizations within society and use these as excuses to position yourself as an enemy of the West. 

 

At the end of the day, there are so many bad things about the West but essentially, there are a lot more good things that came from it.  Our own culture is a product of the thousands of years of interaction between both West and East. 

 

I see nothing wrong in having an idea different from all others´. This is actually a sign of a creative mind. I sometimes wish all those Armenians and Greeks to visit Turkey once in a while. This way, I believe many of the stereotypes about Turkey will be shattered. I also wish a greater number of Turkish people could freely travel around the world which will help them broaden their visions.

 

Last but not least, we don´t need enemies, we need friends...

 

 I just highlighted a few sentences I agree completely. I hope too Turkish people can travel more like others can, not only to broaden their views but also - like many westerners do - for fun. And vineyards, let´s start critisizing......

6.       silence
396 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:06 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

While I don´t want to label the person who started this thread (since I can´t understand what he really means) but what he wrote calls to mind a few thoughts not necessarily relevant to this person.

 

There are indeed a few schools of thought in Turkey producing millions of pre-formatted minds capable of only producing one sort of mentalily. These people have a problem with Western values although they have no problem enjoying the positive aspects of it.  With their minds narrowed down to running around  a few iron-clad cliches they are quick to answer criticisim and stay afloat no matter how deep the quagmire of their ignorance is.  Anyone only  capable of producing a colored bearing the signatures of a certain subculture  or a certain restrictive ideology at the expense of reason and universal truth  is nothing more than a miserable person.

 

You can use many arguments to blame the West today. The most striking examples being the newly revealed evidence of large scale torture in Guantanamo and two other US camps. You could point out to the crimes committed by the Bush administration. You could recall what Kennedy said about secret organizations within society and use these as excuses to position yourself as an enemy of the West. 

 

At the end of the day, there are so many bad things about the West but essentially, there are a lot more good things that came from it.  Our own culture is a product of the thousands of years of interaction between both West and East. 

 

I see nothing wrong in having an idea different from all others´. This is actually a sign of a creative mind. I sometimes wish all those Armenians and Greeks to visit Turkey once in a while. This way, I believe many of the stereotypes about Turkey will be shattered. I also wish a greater number of Turkish people could freely travel around the world which will help them broaden their visions.

 

Last but not least, we don´t need enemies, we need friends...

 

and i highlighted the words i agree..

7.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:26 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Strange text. Do you mean that people who visit Turkey (on regular base or not) or who plan to do that cannot critisize the country?

 

 No, everybody can critisize  Turkey.it is nice.but if there is Terrorist groups, like PKK,  who killed babies,turks,kurdish people, EVErybody should accept it as terrorist group in that website..right?dont you accept PKK is terrorist group.There are some people who doesnt accept it even they say They love turkey.this is not love.This is a kind of being enemy

8.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:30 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

I think he´s saying that we must ´call a terrorist a terrorist´ or we shouldn´t learn Turkish or be a member of Turkish Class or visit Turkey.

 

I was about to say ´Welcome to Turkish Class´ oscarray - but I see you have been a member for over 2 years.  I wonder what prompted you to post in the forum after all this time?

  I say,everybody who loves turkey should call PKK as terrorist group, enmy of turkish.Wonder!!! answer is there are some people who says my dream is turkey..but they dont Accept PKK is terrorist group, they dont accept OCALAN ( a kind of animal in the  world)  killed 30000 turkish/kurdish people.most of them are babies.  http://www.nuveforum.net/939-siyaset-gundem/43870-pkknin-gercek-yuzu/

 

9.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:33 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

While I don´t want to label the person who started this thread (since I can´t understand what he really means) but what he wrote calls to mind a few thoughts not necessarily relevant to this person.

 

There are indeed a few schools of thought in Turkey producing millions of pre-formatted minds capable of only producing one sort of mentalily. These people have a problem with Western values although they have no problem enjoying the positive aspects of it.  With their minds narrowed down to running around  a few iron-clad cliches they are quick to answer criticisim and stay afloat no matter how deep the quagmire of their ignorance is.  Anyone only  capable of producing a colored thought bearing the signatures of a certain subculture  or a certain restrictive ideology at the expense of reason and universal truth  is nothing more than a miserable person.

 

You can use many arguments to blame the West today. The most striking examples being the newly revealed evidence of large scale torture in Guantanamo and two other US camps. You could point out to the crimes committed by the Bush administration. You could recall what Kennedy said about secret organizations within society and use these as excuses to position yourself as an enemy of the West. 

 

At the end of the day, there are so many bad things about the West but essentially, there are a lot more good things that came from it.  Our own culture is a product of the thousands of years of interaction between both West and East. 

 

I see nothing wrong in having an idea different from all others´. This is actually a sign of a creative mind. I sometimes wish all those Armenians and Greeks to visit Turkey once in a while. This way, I believe many of the stereotypes about Turkey will be shattered. I also wish a greater number of Turkish people could freely travel around the world which will help them broaden their visions.

 

Last but not least, we don´t need enemies, we need friends...

 

   you are 100% did not understand the subject. http://www.nuveforum.net/939-siyaset-gundem/43870-pkknin-gercek-yuzu/ look that pictures and tell me if you do you love turkey or not ?????

 Tell me, should anyone join to this site if he/she thinks PKK is a good  group ? do you need to be a turk to call PKK as terrorist group ? does anyone have the right to kill people?

10.       oscarray
25 posts
 28 May 2009 Thu 08:39 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

While I don´t want to label the person who started this thread (since I can´t understand what he really means) but what he wrote calls to mind a few thoughts not necessarily relevant to this person.

 

There are indeed a few schools of thought in Turkey producing millions of pre-formatted minds capable of only producing one sort of mentalily. These people have a problem with Western values although they have no problem enjoying the positive aspects of it.  With their minds narrowed down to running around  a few iron-clad cliches they are quick to answer criticisim and stay afloat no matter how deep the quagmire of their ignorance is.  Anyone only  capable of producing a colored thought bearing the signatures of a certain subculture  or a certain restrictive ideology at the expense of reason and universal truth  is nothing more than a miserable person.

 

You can use many arguments to blame the West today. The most striking examples being the newly revealed evidence of large scale torture in Guantanamo and two other US camps. You could point out to the crimes committed by the Bush administration. You could recall what Kennedy said about secret organizations within society and use these as excuses to position yourself as an enemy of the West. 

 

At the end of the day, there are so many bad things about the West but essentially, there are a lot more good things that came from it.  Our own culture is a product of the thousands of years of interaction between both West and East. 

 

I see nothing wrong in having an idea different from all others´. This is actually a sign of a creative mind. I sometimes wish all those Armenians and Greeks to visit Turkey once in a while. This way, I believe many of the stereotypes about Turkey will be shattered. I also wish a greater number of Turkish people could freely travel around the world which will help them broaden their visions.

 

Last but not least, we don´t need enemies, we need friends...

 

 by the way, how will you labe me? what will be my label? you can label me as enemy of PKK.

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