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60.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 12:03 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDUHfsnsJD0

 

61.       bydand
755 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 12:33 am

I have read thehandsom´s column several times and it is difficult decipher what is actually in this missing document and what are his own conclusions. At one point he says "if it is true you can conclude" and he then proceeds to put words in the mouths of the army. It is also difficult to believe that the army would let it be known their intention to plant weapons in the homes of government supporters. Is the Taraf newspaper where this document was first mentioned a large daily newspaper? It all seem a bit vague to me. Unsure

62.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 06:08 am

It seems that many people are taking what handsom has written as if it is some sort of definitive document.  It is a column people!  Handsom´s thoughts.  Right or wrong, nothing more, nothing less....that´s all it is. 

Much ado about nothing.

63.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 10:18 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

It seems that many people are taking what handsom has written as if it is some sort of definitive document.  It is a column people!  Handsom´s thoughts.  Right or wrong, nothing more, nothing less....that´s all it is. 

Much ado about nothing.

 

 of course I dont take his column serious. I never did.

but TC mods accept him as a wirte and allow him to write on main page.

Turkey sufferered too much from that kind of ppl coz first we never take serious things when some stupid ppl do.

for me this sitution is like "Midnight Express". we didnt take this film serious at first but it took too long time to change ppl´s thought about turkey.  still there are millions of ppl who think with the "midnight express".

GG and somefriends accuse me that I made him populer, they want me be silent and allow all members read turkey news as a daily things in turkey. and make ppl think everybody shoots around in the street.

 

64.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 11:24 am

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

GG and somefriends accuse me that I made him populer, they want me be silent and allow all members read turkey news as a daily things in turkey. and make ppl think everybody shoots around in the street.

 

 We are not idiots so quit acting like we are.  You crazy?

 

Most members here are able to discern what is truth from what is someone´s opinion!  Just because a member....any member....posts something here does NOT mean that it is believed to be FACT! 

 

And I did not accuse you of anything.  I simply pointed out that I felt you brought much more attention to handsom´s column that it ever would have gotten without your rantings.  Quit being so damn paranoid!



Edited (7/4/2009) by girleegirl [emoticon!]

65.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 11:30 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 We are not idiots so quit acting like we are.  You crazy?

 

Most members here are able to discern what is truth from what is someone´s opinion!  Just because a member....any member....posts something here does NOT mean that it is believed to be FACT! 

 

And I did not accuse you of anything.  I simply pointed out that I felt you brought much more attention to handsom´s column that it ever would have gotten without your rantings.  Quit being so damn paranoid!

 

 speak in ur place now others. I didnt say u believe. but how do u know others think same like you?

66.       lessluv
1052 posts
 04 Jul 2009 Sat 05:34 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

 

 speak in ur place now others. I didnt say u believe. but how do u know others think same like you?

 because we do!!Razz

 

67.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Jul 2009 Mon 05:32 am

Well, actually some how i do think Jan has a point...well even good one too...sorry guys but that is how i see it.

Ýf im a new member or a stranger on TLC and dont know handsom and the background of the debats we used to have here, and reading that column on the front page, actually yes i would give it credibility, as much as i have trust in TLC i would put same trust also at its columinist ! 

Disabling the comments is not fair as i see, and having the ability to comment at the forum not like posting the reply under the column and i think that is exactly why handsom disable it...he knew that.

You cant know how everyone think gg so no not everyone will pay the effort to know about something he think he already knew and that is what Jan meant i believe.

People already have imagination in their mind about Türkiye thanks to the Media and if they read what support that without even no argument...so...why would they waste their time to search more ?

They already know !

And i dont have to explain how much is the Media influence out there !

 

Ýf handsom or anyone got used the opportunity in publishing his thoughts in public he should also accept the burden of receiving the criticism...but he wanted to hear only one voice, and one side..his !

So it seems.

 

As cat said the opinions of the colominists doesnt represent TLC...i hope admin add this to the main page as well under the latest by Turkish Class colomnists with smaller font, that the columnists represt their opinions not TLC opinions.

 

 

 

 

68.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Jul 2009 Mon 09:29 am

 

Quoting CANLI

As cat said the opinions of the colominists doesnt represent TLC...i hope admin add this to the main page as well under the latest by Turkish Class colomnists with smaller font, that the columnists represt their opinions not TLC opinions.

 

If admin chooses to continue to allow comments on columns to be blocked then I think this is a great solution Canli.

 

69.       slavica
814 posts
 06 Jul 2009 Mon 02:45 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

Quoting CANLI

As cat said the opinions of the colominists doesnt represent TLC...i hope admin add this to the main page as well under the latest by Turkish Class colomnists with smaller font, that the columnists represt their opinions not TLC opinions.

 

If admin chooses to continue to allow comments on columns to be blocked then I think this is a great solution Canli.

 

 

 I agree with both Canlý and girleegirl.

 

But I truly hope that admin won´t choose to continue to allow comments on columns to be blocked. If the policy of the site is to allow criticism, then "criticism of criticism" should be allowed too.

70.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Jul 2009 Tue 06:54 pm

I can see Jan´s point about how people will feel about Turkey after reading something that puts Turkey in a bad light.  Just consider this:  Do you think that endless debates on the columns, name calling, accusations, and the usual things that happen on the forums will make a new member to TC feel more welcome or less confused about Turkey?  Maybe the answer is to disable ALL the comments on the columns and leave the debating for the forums. 



Edited (7/7/2009) by Elisabeth

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