tami - Christians do not corner the market on hypocracy.

what`s tami? I googled it and came across with this stuff

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what`s tami? I googled it and came across with this stuff

TAMI Logo 1347 x 489 - 66k - jpg www.ta-swiss.ch	Tami Chynn´s new single ...

Oh maybe it was a typo for ´tamam´ -It took me a whole two minutes to think of that!

It is very hard to understand why people hate other people that they don´t even know.  Things like this go on everywhere, Canli.....against every conceiveable group or minority, not just muslims, or christians, or jews, or women....hate is a human disease.  It rises out of misinformation, ignorance and then festers until it can no longer be contained but explodes into a violent act that makes us wonder how society can breed such monsters. 

My heart is troubled though, Canli.....troubled that this site is used as a tool, not to discuss a hate crime and how terrible it is, but for certain groups to "prove" how they are being treated badly, misunderstood, ect......I am sure if I googled "hate crimes against Christians" (or against women, or against anyone) I would find some horrible article to "prove" that the world hates Christians (or whoever) and we could argue about how the world hates Muslims more....but enough already. 

Maybe I am totally off base, but this is getting old......I want to read something on this site that inspires me.  The truth of the matter is, most muslims and christians live together in peace.....I am living proof that it is possible.  Where is Roswitha to post some lovely articles about Turkish culture when we need her? 

It is very hard to understand why people hate other people that they don´t even know.  Things like this go on everywhere, Canli.....against every conceiveable group or minority, not just muslims, or christians, or jews, or women....hate is a human disease.  It rises out of misinformation, ignorance and then festers until it can no longer be contained but explodes into a violent act that makes us wonder how society can breed such monsters. 

My heart is troubled though, Canli.....troubled that this site is used as a tool, not to discuss a hate crime and how terrible it is, but for certain groups to "prove" how they are being treated badly, misunderstood, ect......I am sure if I googled "hate crimes against Christians" (or against women, or against anyone) I would find some horrible article to "prove" that the world hates Christians (or whoever) and we could argue about how the world hates Muslims more....but enough already. 

Maybe I am totally off base, but this is getting old......I want to read something on this site that inspires me.  The truth of the matter is, most muslims and christians live together in peace.....I am living proof that it is possible.  Where is Roswitha to post some lovely articles about Turkish culture when we need her? 

 Well Elisabith, its hard to put head in sand and pretend everything is fine, as much as i would love to, because im too my heart is troubled from what we see, but i just cant, they are forced on us.

Ý dont know if you meant me by what you said or not

But when posting a news about hate crimes aginist muslims would that be using the site as a tool to prove" how they are being treated badly but when posting hate crimes muslims did that would be showing the real face of Ýslam ?!

We have many posts like that dont we ?

Ým just in the middle of discussion with german who think and let me quote

´´ think about 80 Percent of european people are thinking like me. Maybe more. BUT we stay peaceful, thats the big difference compared to your culture´´

And that is think Muslims have no place at Europe and they should go back home, and they are the source of all evil !

So you see, even i´d like to pretend that everything are fine, see the world through pink glasses im forced to think again and i dont have the luxury to do so .

Ý wish you say that out loud Elisabith maybe more people would understand that it can happen, we can live in peace together and stop exchange the hate that they already spreading !

 Considering all the horrid things we have read here that Muslims have been accused of, this is really not very much at all.

 When something is mentioned it´s given a "move along now, nothing to see here" treatment.

 You are absolutely right, alameda.  Muslims have been accused of doing horrible things....many people have.....my point is, we need to stop.  I am not saying we should stop posting articles about hate crimes, I am simply saying that we need to stop perpetuating the behavior that ensures the continuance of hate crimes.  When things are posted in such a way as to remove the objectiveness of a story then it compels other people to find an equally horrifying article supporting their view....and so on and so on....tempers flare and nothing constructive comes out of it.  When we do this, we are engaging in the same behaviors as the perpetrators of hate crime.  I think we can do better.  We should begin to discuss these issues as an offense to humanity.  The aim of terrorist and perpetrators of hate crimes is not just to kill people but to create more hate.  Let´s try not to help them with that.

None heard of him im sure, even i found hard time trying to collect those info

Ýmam Ali Mohammed  burnt alive at his house when he went to clean it before he actually leave to another area because of  anti-Muslim harassment , but... they were faster !

This reminds me of the Sivas massacre when the bunch of angry muslims set a hotel on fire where Alevi intellectuals had a meeting, which resulted in 33 deaths by BURNING ALIVE!!! A hate crime by Muslims against non-muslims.