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couldn´t get girlfriend, so he decided to massacre women
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1.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 06:47 pm

“I actually look good,” Mr. Sodini wrote. “I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne — yet 30 million women rejected me — over an 18 or 25-year period. That is how I see it. Thirty million is my rough guesstimate of how many desirable single women there are.


“A man needs a woman for confidence. He gets a boost on the job, career, with other men, and everywhere else when he knows inside he has someone to spend the night with and who is also a friend.”


 


I guess one should be very tender and gentle when dealing with others.  If not out of compassion, perhaps for survival.  Sometimes people snap.

2.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 06:53 pm

Quote:

The shooter 48-year-old George Sodini is thought to be a gym member although initial reports were that staff did not recognise him. He was described as being bald, clean shaven, short, and wearing a black bandana and gym clothes at the time of the shooting.

 

I think his being bald explains everything.What the hell!

3.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 06:58 pm

 

 

 It is not known how people dealt with this individual or many others that resort to this type of violence.  Many times, when friends are asked about these people in the aftermath, they say they never saw it coming, that everything seemed so normal.

 

These individuals live in their own little minds.  No matter what ayone else does, even when people are compassionate.........they see things differently.  They feel everyone is against them. 

 

Not having a girlfriend did not push this man into going in to a gym and opening fire on innocent people....his mental illness did.

4.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:00 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 It is not known how people dealt with this individual or many others that resort to this type of violence.  Many times, when friends are asked about these people in the aftermath, they say they never saw it coming, that everything seemed so normal.

 

These individuals live in their own little minds.  No matter what ayone else does, even when people are compassionate.........they see things differently.  They feel everyone is against them. 

 

Not having a girlfriend did not push this man into going in to a gym and opening fire on innocent people....his mental illness did.

 

 

I still insist that it`s all about his being bald. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

5.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:16 pm

I think your assumption is somewhat misleading, alameda.  Take the case of Ted Bundy.  He would pretent to be hurt and when a young girl would try to assist him (assuming they were trying to be kind), he would drag them into his van and later kill them.  I don´t think you have to be particularly mean or nice to people like this, they will percieve you as they see things and not necessarily see reality. 

 

Of course, you should always be kind to everyone.....even people you disagree with regularly, on the internet!Shy

 

What a sick and demented story, BTW!  You just never know about people.



Edited (8/5/2009) by Elisabeth

6.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:18 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

I still insist that it`s all about his being bald. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 Do I need to send you a wig along with your snowglobes??<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

7.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:24 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 Do I need to send you a wig along with your snowglobes??<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 

 

 

thanks but I have a good amount of hair on my head, you can keep it for your husband. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

8.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:26 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 ..........Not having a girlfriend did not push this man into going in to a gym and opening fire on innocent people....his mental illness did.

 

 .........and landmines don´t explode until agitated in some way....

9.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:27 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

 

thanks but I have a good amount of hair on my head, you can keep it for your husband. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 Oh sweetie it doesn´t count as "head hair" when you´ve shaved it off your back and glued it to your head.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



Edited (8/5/2009) by girleegirl [Argentina?]

10.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:31 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Oh sweetie it doesn´t count as "head hair" when you´ve shaved it off your back and glue it to your head.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

you should tell this to your husband gg, not me <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast). this is not a my husband sucks club.

11.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 07:47 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 .........and landmines don´t explode until agitated in some way....

 

 So, are you saying that the victims are to blame? 

12.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 08:03 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

I think your assumption is somewhat misleading, alameda.  Take the case of Ted Bundy.  He would pretent to be hurt and when a young girl would try to assist him (assuming they were trying to be kind), he would drag them into his van and later kill them.  I don´t think you have to be particularly mean or nice to people like this, they will percieve you as they see things and not necessarily see reality. 

 

Of course, you should always be kind to everyone.....even people you disagree with regularly, on the internet!Shy

 

 

 Yes, I agree with much of what you say.  Each case is unique.  Ted Bundy was in a whole other class.  He was a psychopath.

"In 1965, Bundy graduated from Woodrow Wilson High. Awarded a scholarship by the University of Puget Sound (UPS), he began that fall taking courses in psychology and Oriental studies. After two semesters at UPS, he decided to transfer to Seattle´s University of Washington (UW).

While he was a university student, Bundy worked as a grocery bagger and shelf-stocker at a Seattle Safeway store on Queen Anne Hill, as well as other odd jobs. As part of his course of studies in psychology, he would later work as a night-shift volunteer at Seattle´s Suicide Hot Line, a suicide crisis center that served the greater Seattle metropolitan and suburban areas. He met and worked alongside former Seattle policewoman and fledgling crime writer Ann Rule, who would later write a biography of Bundy and his crimes, The Stranger Beside Me."

 

I  think we should step lightly. Sometimes we do not really understand how to be kind.  We stomp through the forrest with thick boots tramping through the brush, breaking branches (and life contained in it) underneath our feet. 

 

All I´m saying is maybe if we "Try a little tenderness" it can help.

 

 

13.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 08:05 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 So, are you saying that the victims are to blame? 

 

 ????...............how on earth did you come to that conclusion?????...............no my dear, there is a whole chain of events leading to different results...each important in it´s own way.

14.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 08:42 pm

 Alcoholics



Edited (8/5/2009) by girleegirl [chocolate]

15.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 08:42 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

Quoting Elisabeth

I think your assumption is somewhat misleading, alameda.  Take the case of Ted Bundy.  He would pretent to be hurt and when a young girl would try to assist him (assuming they were trying to be kind), he would drag them into his van and later kill them.  I don´t think you have to be particularly mean or nice to people like this, they will percieve you as they see things and not necessarily see reality. 

 

Of course, you should always be kind to everyone.....even people you disagree with regularly, on the internet!Shy

 

 

 Yes, I agree with much of what you say.  Each case is unique.  Ted Bundy was in a whole other class.  He was a psychopath.

"In 1965, Bundy graduated from Woodrow Wilson High. Awarded a scholarship by the University of Puget Sound (UPS), he began that fall taking courses in psychology and Oriental studies. After two semesters at UPS, he decided to transfer to Seattle´s University of Washington (UW).

While he was a university student, Bundy worked as a grocery bagger and shelf-stocker at a Seattle Safeway store on Queen Anne Hill, as well as other odd jobs. As part of his course of studies in psychology, he would later work as a night-shift volunteer at Seattle´s Suicide Hot Line, a suicide crisis center that served the greater Seattle metropolitan and suburban areas. He met and worked alongside former Seattle policewoman and fledgling crime writer Ann Rule, who would later write a biography of Bundy and his crimes, The Stranger Beside Me."

 

I  think we should step lightly. Sometimes we do not really understand how to be kind.  We stomp through the forrest with thick boots tramping through the brush, breaking branches (and life contained in it) underneath our feet. 

 

All I´m saying is maybe if we "Try a little tenderness" it can help.

 

 

 I find it absolutely hysterical that Elisabeth and I made nearly identical comments and yet you just can´t bear to tell me that you agree with anything I said.  I wonder if doing so would cause your head to explode

 

16.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 08:45 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 I find it absolutely hysterical that Elisabeth and I made nearly identical comments and yet you just can´t bear to tell me that you agree with anything I said.  I wonder if doing so would cause your head to explode

 

 

 My comments are far better written than yours!  How dare  you say they are identical!!!  I will get you<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

17.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 09:03 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 My comments are far better written than yours!  How dare  you say they are identical!!!  I will get you<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

Yours are better written because you are lazy and sit in front of you computer playing all day and have time to draft and edit and use your thesarus. 

I, on the other hand, have to dash in and out and try to get my point across in a quick, yet thoughtful, insightful and eloquent manner.  Roll eyes

 

18.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 09:34 pm

This is the gym I belong to, however in a different state.  I know how the rooms are set up and I can only imagine how these people felt.ScaredI agree with GG...see I said you first Big smile  AND Lis.   I´m wondering why he couldn´t find somebody...Isn´t there a someone for everyone? I mean even if this person wasn´t great looking..there are so many woman who are desperately seeking a man as a man seeking a woman.  It sounds like his excuse to rationalize his means of killing in the end.

19.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 09:49 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

This is the gym I belong to, however in a different state.  I know how the rooms are set up and I can only imagine how these people felt.ScaredI agree with GG...see I said you first Big smile  AND Lis.   I´m wondering why he couldn´t find somebody...Isn´t there a someone for everyone? I mean even if this person wasn´t great looking..there are so many woman who are desperately seeking a man as a man seeking a woman.  It sounds like his excuse to rationalize his means of killing in the end.

 

OFFFF! You always agree with GG! 

 

Anyway, good point.  Could it be that this guy gave off a "creepy stalker vibe" that no one wanted to be nice to him?  I don´t think any amount of kindness would have stopped him.  When you make up your mind to kill someone, I don´t think there is a point where you say, "well, if this person is nice to me, I will just go home and not kill anyone tonight."

 

20.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 09:50 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

I agree with GG...see I said you first Big smile  AND Lis.  

 I have always liked you teas <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

21.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 09:50 pm

Hiccup!   Alcoholics



Edited (8/5/2009) by girleegirl [Oh now this is embarrassing....it hasn´t happened in quite some time.]

22.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:13 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 I have always liked you teas <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 

 Awww.....Big smile

23.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:19 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

OFFFF! You always agree with GG! 

 

Anyway, good point.  Could it be that this guy gave off a "creepy stalker vibe" that no one wanted to be nice to him?  I don´t think any amount of kindness would have stopped him.  When you make up your mind to kill someone, I don´t think there is a point where you say, "well, if this person is nice to me, I will just go home and not kill anyone tonight."

 

 

 I don´t agree that she enjoys four wheeling...I find it kind of red neckish..<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)  Your right Lis, I don´t think if someone would have said. Hey, you smell nice he would have done things differently. 

24.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:22 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 I don´t agree that she enjoys four wheeling...I find it kind of red neckish..<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

 

 I will get youYou smartass! Ok...maybe I don´t always like you!Rant

25.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:23 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 I don´t agree that she enjoys four wheeling...I find it kind of red neckish..<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

 

 Now wait just a minute.....this is coming from a fan of "W"??????????? 

How much more freakin red neck can one girl get???????????  What the hell!

26.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:24 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 I will get youYou smartass! Ok...maybe I don´t always like you!Rant

 

 But I have learned to live with your other extreme addictions...Alcoholics sky diving that is.Big smile

27.       teaschip
3870 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:25 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Now wait just a minute.....this is coming from a fan of "W"??????????? 

How much more freakin red neck can one girl get???????????  What the hell!

 

 Your thinking of Lis...she is his neighbor. Big smile

28.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:32 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 Your thinking of Lis...she is his neighbor. Big smile

 

 Oh the pair of you are both cut from the same coon-skin cloth....just a couple of freakishly-conservative, god-fearin, mid-western livin, Bush-lovin beeches.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

29.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:46 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Oh the pair of you are both cut from the same coon-skin cloth....just a couple of freakishly-conservative, god-fearin, mid-western livin, Bush-lovin beeches.  <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 Yeah, maybe so, but I think I can probably survive in the wilderness much better than a tree hugging liberal.......When Obama has us all living in tent cities, don´t come crying to me...."OH, Lis, when you go hunting can you shoot me a deer.....can you clean my fish....I just don´t believe in guns and killing innocent fishies".....wawawa!  boohoo hoo



Edited (8/5/2009) by Elisabeth

30.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 10:59 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Yeah, maybe so, but I think I can probably survive in the wilderness much better than a tree hugging liberal.......When Obama has us all living in tent cities, don´t come crying to me...."OH, Lis, when you go hunting can you shoot me a deer.....can you clean my fish....I just don´t believe in guns and killing innocent fishies".....wawawa!  boohoo hoo

 

Oops....I thought you had left Scared 

BUT.....You prove my point you bambi-killer! 

31.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 11:01 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

Oops....I thought you had left Scared 

BUT.....You prove my point you bambi-killer! 

 You know what?  I´m not putting my tent next to yours!  RantYou can just forget about it!

 

32.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Aug 2009 Wed 11:19 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 You know what?  I´m not putting my tent next to yours!  RantYou can just forget about it!

 

 

 But, but...you know I am afraid of teas when she starts doing her camp-fire dance and howling at the moon Scared

33.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 12:06 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Yeah, maybe so, but I think I can probably survive in the wilderness much better than a tree hugging liberal.......When Obama has us all living in tent cities, don´t come crying to me...."OH, Lis, when you go hunting can you shoot me a deer.....can you clean my fish....I just don´t believe in guns and killing innocent fishies".....wawawa!  boohoo hoo

 

 Well my dear, I can well clean a fish...(if I must)  More than that, I know what leaf, seeds, roots and plants to eat and what ones to stay away from.....as well as which ones treat what....how to start fire, collect water & render it potable, make shelter....and I´m a tree hugging LIBERAL!



Edited (8/6/2009) by alameda [order]

34.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 03:43 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 Well my dear, I can well clean a fish...(if I must)  More than that, I know what leaf, seeds, roots and plants to eat and what ones to stay away from.....as well as which ones treat what....how to start fire, collect water & render it potable, make shelter....and I´m a tree hugging LIBERAL!

 

 Good for you alameda....you are a credit to tree huggers everywhere.  Enjoy your tent living.

35.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 08:59 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Good for you alameda....you are a credit to tree huggers everywhere.  Enjoy your tent living.

 

 Sounds like GG has a potential roommate then.Big smile

36.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 09:16 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 Sounds like GG has a potential roommate then.Big smile

 

 Pardon me teas but might I borrow your gun or a nice length of rope? 

37.       teaschip
3870 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 10:04 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Pardon me teas but might I borrow your gun or a nice length of rope? 

 

 <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

38.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 10:23 pm

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 You smartass!

39.       Trudy
7887 posts
 06 Aug 2009 Thu 10:36 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Pardon me teas but might I borrow your gun or a nice length of rope? 

 

 Pills and poison are effective as well and less painful.....

40.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Aug 2009 Fri 12:11 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Pills and poison are effective as well and less painful.....

 

 Anything that will swiftly put me out of my misery!  Maybe I should just drink myself to a stupor and think about my optionsAlcoholics

41.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Aug 2009 Fri 12:12 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Anything that will swiftly put me out of my misery!  Maybe I should just drink myself to a stupor and think about my optionsAlcoholics

 

 Can I offer you a hide-away here in cloggie country?

42.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Aug 2009 Fri 12:43 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Can I offer you a hide-away here in cloggie country?

 

 An interesting option!  Big smile

43.       Trudy
7887 posts
 07 Aug 2009 Fri 12:23 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 An interesting option!  Big smile

 

 You´re welcome anytime, even when it´s not meant as a hide-away.

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