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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 12:49 pm

Yes yes yes..

More Turks in the UK..

Woohoo..Alcoholics

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-citizens-arrives-in-uk-without-visa-2009-08-20

2.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 03:42 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Yes yes yes..

More Turks in the UK..

Woohoo..Alcoholics

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-citizens-arrives-in-uk-without-visa-2009-08-20

 

 I think the Turks are planning small scale invasions all over the world....seems many have cropped up in Houston....Is this part of your plan to make the world Turkey????

3.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 06:44 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Yes yes yes..

More Turks in the UK..

Woohoo..Alcoholics

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-citizens-arrives-in-uk-without-visa-2009-08-20

 

 Very interesting! This will shake things up a bit, hmmm...

 

By the way....welcome back.....Cool

4.       vineyards
1954 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 06:57 pm

I am writing this on the assumption that there is some truth behind every joke...

Not that I am dying to visit the UK myself but aren´t you aware the world is cramming with people from the US, Germany and England? For example, English schools here are full of teachers who hold no licenses, there may be more Russians than there are Turks in Antalya and this is not only true for Turkey. Either through invasion or through other reasons, there are more citizens of aforementioned countries all around the world than the entire population of Turks.

  

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I think the Turks are planning small scale invasions all over the world....seems many have cropped up in Houston....Is this part of your plan to make the world Turkey????

 

 



Edited (8/21/2009) by vineyards
Edited (8/21/2009) by vineyards

5.       Trudy
7887 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 07:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Yes yes yes..

More Turks in the UK..

Woohoo..Alcoholics

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-citizens-arrives-in-uk-without-visa-2009-08-20

 

 Can´t talk for the UK, but if people have good business plans, diplomas and experience than why not? To me they are welcome in my country. 

 

And besides the reason of business I still find it unfair that I can travel almost everywhere without (too much) harassment and Turks (e.g.) who want to go on just a holiday need loads of papers and proof they´ll return. It withholds me from inviting friends to come over. If I should want to invite a friend from Turkey for let´s say a week, I need to plan that 6-12 months (!!) upfront, have to prove myself I´m financial ok, I have to sign papers that I´m responsible for them - also in financial way, etc. etc. That doesn´t smoothen an invitation.

6.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 08:25 pm

not just businessmen but all the Turkish citizens have "the right" to get in the EU countries without a visa but this right is well violated by the european countries without much resitance from Turkey at least until recently.

7.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 08:34 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

I am writing this on the assumption that there is some truth behind every joke...

Not that I am dying to visit the UK myself but aren´t you aware the world is cramming with people from the US, Germany and England? For example, English schools here are full of teachers who hold no licenses, there may be more Russians than there are Turks in Antalya and this is not only true for Turkey. Either through invasion or through other reasons, there are more citizens of aforementioned countries all around the world than the entire population of Turks.

  

 

 

 I was referring to the resent influx of Turks to Houston.  There are currently about 15 thousand.  For my husband and I, it is a wonderful thing.  There are many Turkish restaurants, shops, festivals, organizations right in our local area.  We even have a consulate which makes doing paperwork very easy and convenient.  Of course, since I have been married to a Turk, I notice all things Turkish.  They were probably always there, but I just notice them more.  Perhaps for this reason, it seems like an invasion.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

 

8.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 12:33 pm

 I see. It is interesting that there should be an influx of Turks when the US economy is going through an economic crisis. One reason pops up in my mind is the statistical find indicating an uneven distribution of ethnicities in the US. There are so many people from certain ethnic backgrounds and too few from others. That is why there is a lottery system in place (as far as I know) that favours nations having smaller communities in the country a.k.a The Green Card System.

 

A while ago I watched a documentary (shot by some US TV) on Turkish minorities in the US cities. It was  claimed that Turkish communities are small and isolated groups with minimal contact with the rest of the society. The documentary also claimed that other minorities (like the Chinese) were threatening security in New York´s Turkish quarter.

 

I have a weird idea that being able to travel around the world must be one of the basic freedoms. There must of course be certain limitations in this. An active society restlessly traveling from one place to another in pursuit of adventure, business and you name what can produce much more compared to a stagnant society where there are restrictions of all sorts at the gates. This has what fueled the immense growth of the US economy since its foundation. 

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 I was referring to the resent influx of Turks to Houston.  There are currently about 15 thousand.  For my husband and I, it is a wonderful thing.  There are many Turkish restaurants, shops, festivals, organizations right in our local area.  We even have a consulate which makes doing paperwork very easy and convenient.  Of course, since I have been married to a Turk, I notice all things Turkish.  They were probably always there, but I just notice them more.  Perhaps for this reason, it seems like an invasion.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) 

 

 

 

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 04:20 pm

I think Turks need a visa for most (if not all) EU countries, just like we do when visiting Turkey. The unfair difference is that we can obtain visa at the airport while it´s not so easy for Turks. I wish things were easier for them, they´d see that Europe is not as bad as they imagine.

 

I don´t see many Turks around here, it´s a pity as I wouldn´t mind a Turkish bakery nearby

10.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 05:58 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I think Turks need a visa for most (if not all) EU countries, just like we do when visiting Turkey. The unfair difference is that we can obtain visa at the airport while it´s not so easy for Turks. I wish things were easier for them, they´d see that Europe is not as bad as they imagine.

 

I don´t see many Turks around here, it´s a pity as I wouldn´t mind a Turkish bakery nearby

 

Only the EU and US citizens have ´visa at the airport´ convenience in Turkey. Turks are not so benevolent and lovely to take anybody to their country, because they love diversity. They only give easy visas to people who they believe will spend in Turkey and improve their economy.

I doubt that they would take a person whom they know that the government will have to support and who will only contribute to more social problems that the country can already barely handle.

11.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 09:26 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Only the EU and US citizens have ´visa at the airport´ convenience in Turkey. Turks are not so benevolent and lovely to take anybody to their country, because they love diversity. They only give easy visas to people who they believe will spend in Turkey and improve their economy.

I doubt that they would take a person whom they know that the government will have to support and who will only contribute to more social problems that the country can already barely handle.

 

really? since when Australia is a part of the US or EU? Is this something dealing with "ignorance and asshole-ness"?

12.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 09:33 pm

These are the countries from which Turkey doesn`t require a visa in advance.  I`m leaving the task of evaluating how many of these countries are members of the EU and how many of them are rich countries for catwoman.

 

Passport

No Visa

Visa Needed

 

Days

Months

Euros

US$

Japan

90

 

 

 

Jordan (S)

 

1

€20

$30

Kazakhstan

30

 

 

 

Korea (South)

90

 

 

 

Kuwait (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Kyrgyzstan

30

 

 

 

Latvia

30

 

 

 

Lithuania (S)

 

1

€15

$20

Luxemburg

90

 

 

 

Macedonia

60

 

 

 

Malaysia

90

 

 

 

Monaco

90

 

 

 

Mongolia

30

 

 

 

Morocco

90

 

 

 

Netherlands (S)

 

3

€15

$20

New Zealand

90

 

 

 

Norway (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Poland (S)

 

1

€10

$15

Portugal (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Qatar (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Romania (S)

 

1

€10

$12

Russian Federation (S)

 

2

€15

$20

Saudi Arabia (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Serbia (S)

 

1

€10

$15

Singapore

90

 

 

 

Slovakia (S)

 

1

€15

$20

Slovenia (S)

 

3

€15

$20

South Africa (S)

 

1

€10

$15

Spain (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Sweden

90

 

 

 

Switzerland

90

 

 

 

Tajikistan

30

 

 

 

Tunisia

90

 

 

 

Turkmenistan

30

 

 

 

Ukraine (S)

 

2

€20

$30

UAE (S)

 

3

€15

$20

UK (S)*

 

3

£10  €15  $20

USA (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Uruguay

90

 

 

 

Uzbekistan

30

 

 

 

Venezuela

90

 

 

 

 

Albania (S)

 

2

€10

$15

Armenia (S)

 

1

€10

$15

Australia (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Austria (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Azerbaijan

30

 

 

 

Belarus (S)

 

2

€15

$20

Belgium (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Bosnia-Herzegovina

60

 

 

 

Brazil

90

 

 

 

Bulgaria

90

 

 

 

Canada (S)

 

3

€45

$60

Chile

90

 

 

 

Cyprus (TRNC)

 

?

 

 

Cyprus (Greek) (S)

 

1

€15

$20

Croatia

60

 

 

 

Czech Republic

90

 

 

 

Denmark

90

 

 

 

Finland

90

 

 

 

France

90

 

 

 

Georgia

90

 

 

 

Germany

90

 

 

 

Greece

90

 

 

 

Hong Kong (BNO*) (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Hungary (S)

 

1

€15

$20

Iceland

90

 

 

 

Iran

90

 

 

 

Ireland (S)

 

3

€15

$20

Israel

90

 

 

 

Italy

90

 

 

 

Japan

90



Edited (8/22/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

13.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 09:48 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Only the EU and US citizens have ´visa at the airport´ convenience in Turkey.

 

now, as I exposed your lie cw, will you apologize or keep your attitute of "ignorance and assholeness"?



Edited (8/22/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

14.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 10:29 pm

well, if you were able to understand my post, you would know that what I wrote still applies. and I am aware that not only EU and US citizens can get visas at the airport, I said it assuming that intelligent readers will focus on the point of my post.

15.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 10:33 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

well, if you were able to understand my post, you would know that what I wrote still applies. and I am aware that not only EU and US citizens can get visas at the airport, I said it assuming that intelligent readers will focus on the point of my post.

 

Can someone translate this piece of crap cause It doesn`t make any sense in English.

16.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 10:41 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

Can someone translate this piece of crap cause It doesn`t make any sense in English.

 

 Try this: http://www.learn-english-online.org/

17.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 10:42 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Try this: http://www.learn-english-online.org/

 

seems like a good source for catwoman

18.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 10:43 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Only the EU and US citizens have ´visa at the airport´ convenience in Turkey. Turks are not so benevolent and lovely to take anybody to their country, because they love diversity. They only give easy visas to people who they believe will spend in Turkey and improve their economy.

I doubt that they would take a person whom they know that the government will have to support and who will only contribute to more social problems that the country can already barely handle.

 

I think that will be the correct assesment generically..

In the end, each country is trying to get more people who would want to spend money during their stays..

Many countries such as Holland etc, we say that ´you require visa´ but we let them pay at the entrance..

I can see no problem with that..

But ´not loving diversity´ has been a huge and embarresing problem and it is very well connected to the nationalism; seeing the each foreign person as aperson blong to a country which is our enemy, trying to devide us etc..

There is also a serious amount of ´inferior complex´ too as  far as the western countries  are concerned..

And as far as refugees are concerned, I am not an expert but  I remember reading horible reports about them.. 

19.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 10:56 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I think that will be the correct assesment generically..

 

there we go again, "catwoman`s lapdog" is back <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:02 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

there we go again, "catwoman`s lapdog" is back <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

That is what you are made of..

An embarresing, brainless,  little dog who embaresses his own country his own nation and himself..

You are just full of inferior complex..Phew.!!!!

21.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:06 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

An embarresing, brainless,  little dog who embaresses his own country his own nation and himself..

 

 

you just described your low self. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



Edited (8/22/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

22.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:16 pm

 The last few messages in this thread seriously need the attention of a moderator. There is no use in keeping messages where people curse one another on a public forum. You could just delete them.

 

Meanwhile, mhsn supertitiz you should really behave yourself or face a ban or other restrictions. If there is a technical shortage in this department, this too should be taken care of. Please act like a gentleman and don´t forget to pay respect to other people sharing this forum. 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

you just described your low self. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 

23.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:26 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

you just described your low self. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

I am so sorry for you that I am back..

Because otherwise you would keep annoying people and get away with it..

Look at yourself...

Look above..

I WAS not EVEN TALKING TO YOU...I did not even write anything against you..

 

But because you do not have enough knowledge and because you are soo into your primitive INFERIOR COMPLEX against any western person you get annoyed easily if anybody breaks your silly childish games..

 

 

 



Edited (8/22/2009) by thehandsom
Edited (8/22/2009) by thehandsom

24.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:30 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I am so sorry for you that I am back..

Because otherwise you would keep annoying people and get away with it..

Look at yourself...

Look above..

I WAS not EVEN TALKING TO YOU...I did not even right anything against you..

 

But because you do not have enough knowledge and because you are soo into your primitive INFERIOR COMPLEX against any western person you get annoyed easily if anybody breaks your silly childish games..

 

 

 

 

 

since when are you a "western person"?

 

speaking of inferiority complex, you sound just like Burhan Altintop.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

25.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:34 pm

Catwoman, the reason why EU and US citizens are asked a visa is based on a principle called reciprocity. It is a hypocratic way of organizing matters so they look right on paper.  For example, Germany requires a visa of Turkish citizens and so does Turkey. As a result, the principle of  mutuality is technically not violated.

 

As for the reason why it has become more difficult for non-Europeans to enter the country: you know Turkey has been (hypocratically) granted the status of accession into European membership. Therefore like all other members, all the legal procedures, regulations, laws and a plethora of other formalities need to go through a process of compliance. Since Turkey will (God knows when) become European land,

non-European people entering the country will in fact enter Europe. Since Europe is quite conservative about its borders, Turkey must be equally conservative.

 

Excuse me but we shouldn´t come to quick conclusions like Turks not being so benevolent... I know they are not at all, but if you criticize Turks in this regard, you are actually criticizing the European stand point..  

Quoting catwoman

 

 

Only the EU and US citizens have ´visa at the airport´ convenience in Turkey. Turks are not so benevolent and lovely to take anybody to their country, because they love diversity. They only give easy visas to people who they believe will spend in Turkey and improve their economy.

I doubt that they would take a person whom they know that the government will have to support and who will only contribute to more social problems that the country can already barely handle.

 

 



Edited (8/23/2009) by vineyards

26.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:34 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

since when are you a "western person"?

 

speaking of inferiority complex, you sound just like Burhan Altintop.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

Ha ha

I never said I am a western person..And I have no idea who that person is..

But look at how childish you act!!

I wrote something here..

What are you doing:

Are you answering what I wrote? 

did you answer?

did you?

can you answer? 

can you?

no no no

You are just swearing..

yes!! you are just swearing.

Then when I hit back, you start crying about it..

Phew!!!

27.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:45 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Ha ha

I never said I am a western person..And I have no idea who that person is..

But look at how childish you act!!

I wrote something here..

What are you doing:

Are you answering what I wrote? 

did you answer?

did you?

can you answer? 

can you?

no no no

You are just swearing..

yes!! you are just swearing.

Then when I hit back, you start crying about it..

Phew!!!

 

what the hell is this? you wrote a poem for me? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

28.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 11:51 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

what the hell is this? you wrote a poem for me? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

Naah

I would wont think it was a poem and i would not laugh either if I was you..

Embarresing yourself more really..

But who knows maybe  a ´severe embaressement´ can be a good thing for the inferior complex..

 

 

29.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 12:48 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

what the hell is this? you wrote a poem for me? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 lollollol

30.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 12:50 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

..can be a good thing for the inferior complex..

 

 

 

 Somehow I don´t think this is something YOU ever suffered from! lollollol

31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 12:52 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Somehow I don´t think this is something YOU ever suffered from! lollollol

 

Never!!

32.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 12:57 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 lollollol

 

Came to stop the embarresing Johnny Turkish to embarress himself and his country more? lol lol 

33.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 12:59 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Came to stop the embarresing Johnny Turkish to embarress himself and his country more? lol lol 

 

 Just enjoyed the joke - it WAS like a poem! lollollol  I wasn´t actually jumping in to defend dearest Tami, but now I know you think so I will do it at every opportunity

34.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 01:02 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Just enjoyed the joke - it WAS like a poem! lollollol  I wasn´t actually jumping in to defend dearest Tami, but now I know you think so I will do it at every opportunity

 

Thinking is that ´it was ajoke´ is more embarressing for him..

Because it can be considered as ´someone spitting on your face and you are trying to deflect the situation  by saying that -oh the rain has started´  lol lol 

35.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 01:03 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Thinking is that ´it was ajoke´ is more embarressing for him..

Because it can be considered as ´someone spitting on your face and you are trying to deflect the situation  by saying that -oh the rain has started´  lol lol 

 

 Darling you are so poetic today

Learn to laugh at yourself a little sometimes eh?

36.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 01:06 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Darling you are so poetic today

Learn to laugh at yourself a little sometimes eh?

 

Really, darling?

37.       _AE_
677 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 01:14 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Really, darling?

 

 Tabi ki canim

38.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 02:56 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Yes yes yes..

More Turks in the UK..

Woohoo..Alcoholics

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-citizens-arrives-in-uk-without-visa-2009-08-20

 

 They would have been accepted in through the Tier 1 of the new immigation system.  Applications are made through the Home Office,  would have taken a few weeks and they would have to met strict criteria. 

 

All I can say is "London beware".........<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

39.       libralady
5152 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 03:13 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

That is what you are made of..

An embarresing, brainless,  little dog who embaresses his own country his own nation and himself..

You are just full of inferior complex..Phew.!!!!

 

 Just wondering if this constitutes swearing .............. in your definition of swearing? Unsure

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