Perhaps you now understand how Turks feel by the anti-Turkish hatred campaign on this site, which far more posts are dedicated to, and is mainly organised by an ex-pat Turk!

 This is simply ridiculous - I think he would know if he were the subject of personal dislike or racism eh?  And all those anti-Muslim jokes, films etc. are because of Tami? You are being very defensive but seem the be one of the first to jump on the bandwagon when Turkey is under criticism...

I think you should  read my posts + try to understand then come and argue with me the points I am making in that particular post..

If you dont, dont come here and try to prove that there is an anti Turkish hatred campaign..

You will be laughed at.

We went this through many many times!!!

I beg to differ - some people take general comments personally and some people take personal comments and elevate them to the status of racism (playing the "race card") - it may or may not be true in this case. You also seem to have missed my point - that it´s not black or white. I´m not denying that there´s anti-Muslim sentiment in the USA - I´m opposing stereotyping all Americans based on the views of some.

Also, I´d challenge you to find a single thread where I´m jumping on the bandwagon when Turkey is under criticism. I doubt you´d find a single one. So if you´re going to criticise my posts, have some substance to the criticism and don´t pull your info out of your ass.

 For thehandsom who thinks I don´t read his posts and thinks my comments are unjustified...

 I would say that you have ONLY EVER posted surveys exposing bigotry or some other flaw, regarding Turkey.  I have yet to see you post one exposing bigotry or racism in the west.

And you make it VERY clear in your post that you are full of hatred of eastern values, coupled with a personal SUPERIOR complex and inflated ego.

 Perhaps you should check your OWN posts before making such a sweeping statement.  Apart from poems, mushroom soup and music, I have not seen you post much that is positive about Turkey.

 Easy just read your posts.

 But clearly it doesn´t upset you anywhere else...

 Don´t you think that most eastern countries have EVER REASON to hate the west??  It is up to the west to change that - I don´t see that you are doing much in that area.

You speak for Turkey now eh?

Let´s hope people reading your posts don´t assume every Turk is as bigot as YOU!  In addition, as someone who has lived in the UK for quite some time now, you do a great job in confirming popular opinion that all Brits are arrogant, fascist, intolerant gits with superiority complexes....

 You are right and apologies for that comment - I was confusing you with someone else! 

For thehandsom who thinks I don´t read his posts and thinks my comments are unjustified...

I am not saying that our comments are unjustified..

They just do NOT make any sense ..

You lost the point from the beginning (sorry but it is the case here )

 I have yet to see you post one exposing bigotry or racism in the west.

 You can not show  or prove that  I did sport even very midly any westernt bigotry or racism..

I am a person living in the west and I am a person have suffered and have been suffering from racism myself.

But girl..Dont expect me to join the band wagon of a few primtive Turks who fail to see  what is going on in my own country and coming here, trying to critisize the west as ´I fu... you mother fu... Christians. You all menapose christian grannies etc´ type posts.

 Come on...We are not childeren here..We dont have time for this..You might have..But I dont..

And you make it VERY clear in your post that you are full of hatred of eastern values, coupled with a personal SUPERIOR complex and inflated ego.

Well..I can not hate eastern values as I am an EASTERN person myself. I am a person speaking from inside and critisize ..I have always done it..so what? critisism does not mean you hate it (you are mixing oranges and apples here )

But I simply do not have an inferior complex

And you are really getting personal up there!! Please  

 Perhaps you should check your OWN posts before making such a sweeping statement.  Apart from poems, mushroom soup and music, I have not seen you post much that is positive about Turkey.

 Everything I am posting about Turkey may not be that positive but to make Turkey a better place..

I wont post something like ´sish kebap guzel, raki guzel, hamam guzel´. 

But nobody can question the subjects I post is true or not..

Show me one..Only one that I was not telling the truth!!

You can not..

 Look.

 We Turks are not liars...

 We Turks are not as bigot as you think we are..

We can critisize ourselves as much as you do..

 My posts are the proof of that..

 And without critism there is not going to be any change to anything..So critisim is absolutely necessary and sometimes being silent means you are sharing the guilt. (necessety  of critisizm is a MUST for anything really..But it will be a bit philosophical for you so lets dont go into that )

 So I wont stay silent personally as long as I love my country and I love my people...

 Some of the Turks can stay silent and share the guilt of many things.  I am not one of them..I dont want them to be repeated at all..

You speak for Turkey now eh? 

Of course I do..I have always done..I think it is much more my right than anybody who does not give a shit what is hapenning in his  own country!!..

Let´s hope people reading your posts don´t assume every Turk is as bigot as YOU!

No need to answer..You simply do not know the meaning of bigotary..

That is you being defensive up there   

In addition, as someone who has lived in the UK for quite some time now, you do a great job in confirming popular opinion that all Brits are arrogant, fascist, intolerant gits with superiority complexes....

Well please do NOT stereotype people AE. You British are human beings too ..

Önemli deðil.

No problemo. I´m confusing myself with somebody else all the time .

 Are you unable to understand English?

Well actually you are as much a child as Tami!!!   BUT BOY,  If this is a personal issue you have with him, why not PM rather than name call.  You use the same language and insults to him as he uses to you.  Time?  Hey it is a sunny bank holiday and if I was not working I would be at the beach now - and if I had children I would be taking them out somewhere...what is your excuse?

 I can show you many where your opinions are personal.  The numerous articles you post are "true words of the author" but this doesn´t mean they are not written with bias or half-truths.  Even the completely factual posts that you post leave me wondering your motive for extracting them and posting them here.  When Tami does the same, from his own biased view, you are the first to question his sources and motives!  I think you are very similar actually - not just at opposite ends of opinions.

 Hahaha this is one of the most arrogant, sanctimonious things you have ever written - and let´s face it there have been a few!

I can 100% agree with this - I actually said you have a SUPERIORITY complex!

 I agree - however, my point was that you said he was "embarassing Turkey" - you were speaking for the population of Turkey!!!!!!!  Despite your self-importance, I hate to break this to you, but you are not important in Turkey and I believe the phrase you should have used was "As a Turk, I am embarassed".

 I think you need to check the word "defensive" (particulary as you use it so often).  I have nothing to be defensive about in this thread so I really don´t understand that comment here.

With regard to the meaning of bigotry - a quick glance at your comments regarding muslims would reveal you very quickly as a bigot.

 Again you seem to have problems understanding simple English.  I have written nothing stereotypical, no personal comment.  I wrote that "popular opinion" is that the English are arrogant - therefore this is not my statement. 

Perhaps more time reading an English dictionary and less time posting crap would be time better spent!

If it WAS between me and him why am I having this argument with YOU?

And what makes you keep coming back again and again? Are you tami?

HA HA HA

 Why YOU and your outlandish posts dear!   It was so easy to stay away from TC when you were limiting yourself to your column (with comments disabled)!