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Another Christian Crime in Iraq: Deformed Babies
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1.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 12:46 pm

The Truth Of Iraq´s City Of Deformed Babies

 

An Iraqi doctor has told Sky News the number of babies born with deformities in the heavily-bombed area of Fallujah is still on the increase. Skip related content

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Fifteen months ago a Sky News investigation revealed growing numbers of children being born with defects in Fallujah.

Concerns were that the rise in deformities may have been linked to the use of chemical weapons by US forces.

We recently returned to find out the current situation and what has happened to some of the children we featured.

In May last year we told the story of a three-year-old girl called Fatima Ahmed who was born with two heads.

When we filmed her she seemed like a listless bundle - she lay there barely able to breathe and unable to move.

Even now and having seen the pictures many times since I still feel shocked and saddened when I look at her.

But the prognosis for Fatima never looked good and, as feared, she never made it to her fourth birthday.

Her mother Shukriya told us about the night her daughter died.

Wiping away her tears, Shukriya said she had put her daughter to bed as normal one night but woke with the dreadful sense that something was wrong.

She told us she felt it was her daughter´s moment to die, but of course that does not make the pain any easier.

Fatima´s father had taken his little girl´s hand but it was cold.

"She is gone," he had said to his distraught wife.

Another girl we met last year was Tiba Aftan who was born with a huge growth across her face.

Now she is a toddler her future is looking brighter having gone to neighbouring Jordan to have it removed.

The growth had covered half of Tiba´s forehead and was invading one of her eyes - and it was getting bigger as she got older.

Although the operation was a success Tiba will need more surgery and the last trip cost her family almost every penny they have.

But since our original investigation, we have built up a new dossier of cases of deformed children in Fallujah born in the last eight months.

There are a wide range of problems - from abnormalities of the abdomen to facial disfigurements.

We have also seen pictures of all kinds of deformed foetuses which have not survived.

There is no precise explanation as to what has caused the deformities and there are no figures to compare cases with those a decade or more ago as records were not kept during the time of Saddam Hussein.

All of our evidence is anecdotal, but repeatedly people tell us they believe the deformities must be linked to the heavy bombardment of Fallujah - a Sunni insurgent stronghold - by America in 2004.

People want an independent investigation into the impact of the kinds of weapons used - including controversial white phosphorus.

Yet even since we first started to give a voice to the calls for help from the people of Fallujah things seem to have got worse.

Dr Ahmed Uraibi, a specialist paediatrician in Fallujah, told us that the number of deformities he has dealt with has increased in the last year.

The people of Fallujah want to know how many more deformed babies there will be before someone sits up and takes notice of them.

2.       Melek74
1506 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 03:19 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

This is nothing new, even after the Gulf War in 1991 the consequences of modern warefare have started to show their tragic and ugly head, due to the US using depleted uranium shells. It is indeed tragic and shameful.

 

I wonder if you see yourself as some kind of a whistle blower on "evil, bigoted, fascist, Christian West"? Maybe you could use something else than almost 18 year old news?



Edited (9/4/2009) by Melek74
Edited (9/4/2009) by Melek74 [Changed 20 to 18 not to be accused of Christian media manipulating mathematics]

3.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 03:49 pm

Tami, I just want to point out how lucky you are to be able to critisize the west so easily.  I am sure if you where going to school in a country like, say, Iran (or Turkey) and you wanted to critisize their government(s), you would probably be in jail by now for insulting Iranianness (or Turkishness)......or whatever crime they see fit.  I applaud your use of your constitutionally protected right to report the news as YOU see fit.  Hope you enjoy it while you can.....because when you go back to Turkey, you will not be able to critisize your government so freely....however, you will still be free to critisize mine. 

 

I have also noticed that most of the sources you use are western news sources....something else that many eastern news outlets are not able to do....report the truth.  I accept that we are not perfect here in the US....but you must admit we are a decent enough place for you to come and live for a few years and get a good education.  Perhaps if you would, once in a while, report something good about us, I would take your critrical opinions a bit more seriously. 



Edited (9/4/2009) by Elisabeth

4.       Melek74
1506 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 05:18 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Tami, I just want to point out how lucky you are to be able to critisize the west so easily.  I am sure if you where going to school in a country like, say, Iran (or Turkey) and you wanted to critisize their government(s), you would probably be in jail by now for insulting Iranianness (or Turkishness)......or whatever crime they see fit.  I applaud your use of your constitutionally protected right to report the news as YOU see fit.  Hope you enjoy it while you can.....because when you go back to Turkey, you will not be able to critisize your government so freely....however, you will still be free to critisize mine. 

 

I have also noticed that most of the sources you use are western news sources....something else that many eastern news outlets are not able to do....report the truth.  I accept that we are not perfect here in the US....but you must admit we are a decent enough place for you to come and live for a few years and get a good education.  Perhaps if you would, once in a while, report something good about us, I would take your critrical opinions a bit more seriously. 

+100000000000000

 

I might add that there´s a difference between healthy, constructive criticism (which should always be welcome) and spreading prejudice-based propaganda.

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 06:19 pm

I just find his posts ridiculous, how is this a "christian" crime? He seems to be motivated by religious hatred, nothing else. I could also twist some news and label everything as "muslim crime" if I wanted to. There is not even any grain of reason in his mentality.

6.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:10 am

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Tami, I just want to point out how lucky you are to be able to critisize the west so easily.  I am sure if you where going to school in a country like, say, Iran (or Turkey) and you wanted to critisize their government(s), you would probably be in jail by now for insulting Iranianness (or Turkishness)......or whatever crime they see fit.  I applaud your use of your constitutionally protected right to report the news as YOU see fit.  Hope you enjoy it while you can.....because when you go back to Turkey, you will not be able to critisize your government so freely....however, you will still be free to critisize mine. 

 

 

 

 

yea, what would happen to you if you said that you support al qaida in America? you would land in guantanamo for a very civilized torture session.

 

yea freedom of speech...

7.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:10 am

 

Quoting Melek74

+100000000000000

 

I might add that there´s a difference between healthy, constructive criticism (which should always be welcome) and spreading prejudice-based propaganda.

 

just like what christian invaders are doing?

8.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:12 am

 

Quoting catwoman

I just find his posts ridiculous, how is this a "christian" crime? He seems to be motivated by religious hatred, nothing else. I could also twist some news and label everything as "muslim crime" if I wanted to. There is not even any grain of reason in his mentality.

 

"I could also twist some news and label everything as "muslim crime" if I wanted to"

 

 

 

ahahhaha, as if you don`t already!

 

It`s a christian crime because six christian countries invaded a muslim country for no reason other than genociding muslims. even your christian army`s general admitted that calling it a crusade.

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:50 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

 

It`s a christian crime because six christian countries invaded a muslim country for no reason other than genociding muslims. even your christian army`s general admitted that calling it a crusade.

 

Really? Is that the reason? I think you should read more, Tami and finally check what metaphor is, I´ve told you to do it a million times lol

 

If you were right then why didn´t they first start getting rid of the Muslims that live in those countries? And why their armies consist of people of many different or none religions? Why do you think that countries that grant their citizens religious freedom suddenly feel the urge to exterminate religious groups in other countries? That´s pretty illogical...

10.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:58 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Really? Is that the reason? I think you should read more, Tami and finally check what metaphor is, I´ve told you to do it a million times lol

 

If you were right then why didn´t they first start getting rid of the Muslims that live in those countries? And why their armies consist of people of many different or none religions? Why do you think that countries that grant their citizens religious freedom suddenly feel the urge to exterminate religious groups in other countries? That´s pretty illogical...

 

 

DD, you first said Bush`s calling themsleves crusaders can`t be taken seriously because he is an idiot. I proved you that Bush is not more idiot than any other terrorist leader, and then you immediately change your argument saying that the crusade word is just a metaphor.

 

That`s just like America`s claiming that Saddam had mass destruction weapons and then when proved wrong saying they invaded Iraq to bring democracy.

 

You`ve lost all your credibility defending your christian brothers, DD.  I`m not gonna explain the same facts to you over and over again.

 

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