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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 12:42 pm

UKIP and racist leaflets


The UKIP leaflet on the Lisbon Treaty, which is reproduced on the website www.euinfo.ie, alleges Lisbon gives the EU full control of immigration and warns that Turkey’s entry to the EU will lead to more mass migration of cheap labour. It portrays an image of a turkey with a medallion around its neck with the message: “Free movement for 75 million people.”

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0916/1224254655845.html

 

 

You smartass!You smartass!You smartass!You smartass!

 

2.       libralady
5152 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 02:56 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

UKIP and racist leaflets


The UKIP leaflet on the Lisbon Treaty, which is reproduced on the website www.euinfo.ie, alleges Lisbon gives the EU full control of immigration and warns that Turkey’s entry to the EU will lead to more mass migration of cheap labour. It portrays an image of a turkey with a medallion around its neck with the message: “Free movement for 75 million people.”

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0916/1224254655845.html

 

 

You smartass!You smartass!You smartass!You smartass!

 

 

 Do you think so?  I bet anything you like there will be restrictions on Turks entering the UK just like those for Romania and Bulgaria (UKBA has those details).   And there are other EU states that have entry restrictions, so it wont be a clear cut mass migration into the EU.

 

Besides it is cold and wet in Ireland, ask DD <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

3.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 07:30 pm

I don´t know.. but my neighbor is from Dublin...don´t the Irish have grass?  My neighbor never cuts his grass...but spends much time in his yard grilling out and drinking..Alcoholics

4.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 07:39 pm

Well..I just learnt that there will be a demonstration organized  by Turks to protest this incident..

(I am just wondering if DD will be there too Roll eyes ..If she will be...I will go to the demo for sure   -  )

 

ah...Just wondering if we can find shingles/stones/rocks/pebbles/gravel (wha(t)ever..)  if we need to, on the streets in Ireland..



Edited (9/25/2009) by thehandsom

5.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 07:57 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Well..I just learnt that there will be a demonstration organized  by Turks to protest this incident..

(I am just wondering if DD will be there too Roll eyes ..If she will be...I will go to the demo for sure   -  )

 

ah...Just wondering if we can find shingles/stones/rocks/pebbles/gravel (wha(t)ever..)  if we need to, on the streets in Ireland..

 

 You can find shamrocks.....Big smile

6.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 09:22 pm

"what`s wrong with the irish?"

 

 

They are just christians.

 



Edited (9/25/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

7.       birdy
245 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:03 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

"what`s wrong with the irish?"

 

 

They are just christians.

 

 

 ni lia duine na tuairimBig smile

8.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:04 pm

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

 ni lia duine na tuairimBig smile

what`s this? dobrowskish?

 

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:12 pm

@ Tami - worse! They´re Catholic lol

@Teas - do they have grass? Actually there´s hardly anything else than grass here lol Ireland is like one huge pasture with charming low stone fences. But drinking is something they enjoy way more than mowing the lawn so go figure

@ TheH - tell me the time and location and I´ll be there - worry not about pebbles/gravel/shoes - I shall bring dirty nappies lol That´ll teach them

 

The posters (and tones of leaflets I find in my mailbox every day) are just a campaign again Lisbon Treaty. They use nonsensical arguments for people with Tami´s way of reasoning. Bulgaria and Romania have restrictions on migrating to Ireland and it´s pretty tough for them to find a job. If Turkey got accepted into EU I´m sure most countries would keep restrictions for them as well. They saw what happened when they opened the border and job market for Poles and Lithuanians lol They´re afraid of another flood of cheap workforce

10.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:17 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 They use nonsensical arguments for people with Tami´s way of reasoning.

 

why do they hate the Turks?

 

Because the Turks are muslims. I hope you now get the reasoning going on.

11.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:23 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

why do they hate the Turks?

 

Because the Turks are muslims. I hope you now get the reasoning going on.

 

They also hate Poles. Why? Because they are Catholic lol I hope you now get the reasoning going on

(it´s got nothing to do with the fact that a massive immigration takes away the jobs, it´s purely religious muehahahhaha)

12.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:27 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

They also hate Poles. Why? Because they are Catholic lol I hope you now get the reasoning going on

(it´s got nothing to do with the fact that a massive immigration takes away the jobs, it´s purely religious muehahahhaha)

 

oh really? how come they allowed you in the eu then? why are they ok with romania and bulgaria which are the crappiest countries in a three thosand km`s radius but not with Turkey?

 

13.       birdy
245 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:27 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

why do they hate the Turks?

 

Because the Turks are muslims. I hope you now get the reasoning going on.

 

 first  of all they hate English due to turbulent history ,later they hate all who flood their country and take away jobs,I do not think they hate the Turks only because they are Turks and non Catholics.

Gaelic Tami<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)Irish Gaelic it wasWink

14.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:30 pm

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

 first  of all they hate English due to turbulent history ,later they hate all who flood their country and take away jobs,I do not think they hate the Turks only because they are Turks and non Catholics.

Gaelic Tami<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)Irish Gaelic it wasWink

 

I didn`t say they hate the Turks just because they are Turks. They hate the Turks just because they are muslims.

15.       teaschip
3870 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:34 pm

Quote:

@ Tami - worse! They´re Catholic lol

@Teas - do they have grass? Actually there´s hardly anything else than grass here lol Ireland is like one huge pasture with charming low stone fences. But drinking is something they enjoy way more than mowing the lawn so go figure

 

Maybe that´s the problem...they think their backyard is a pasture.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast) Maybe I´ll demonstrate for them next time I cut my grasss you can drink and operate the lawn mower at the same time..Alcoholics

 

 

16.       birdy
245 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:35 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

I didn`t say they hate the Turks just because they are Turks. They hate the Turks just because they are muslims.

 

 I am Catholic although not Irish,you are Muslim,following your reasoning-does it mean that I hate you?or that you hate me?Aren´t you stereotyping and labelling?

Think tami,it does not hurt!Big smile

17.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:40 pm

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

 I am Catholic although not Irish,you are Muslim,following your reasoning-does it mean that I hate you?or that you hate me?Aren´t you stereotyping and labelling?

Think tami,it does not hurt!Big smile

 

hehehe I don`t need to think about it. I`m not a muslimBig smile. and my statement is still true.

18.       birdy
245 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:44 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

hehehe I don`t need to think about it. I`m not a muslimBig smile. and my statement is still true.

 

 another pastafarian<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)AE managed to convert you at last,all must have been her skinny dripping fault

Ps the more you will hang round with Dabrowskis,the more chances to see you praying"Pater noster"<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

19.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:47 pm

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

 another pastafarian<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)AE managed to convert you at last,all must have been her skinny dripping fault

Ps the more you will hang round with Dabrowskis,the more chances to see you praying"Pater noster"<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

Thanks birdy, but I`m planning to form my own religion anyway. maybe you can consider converting into hassology. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



Edited (9/25/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

20.       birdy
245 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 10:55 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

Thanks birdy, but I`m planning to form my own religion anyway. maybe you can consider converting into hassology. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 hushology u mean? hastology or hunhostilogyDoes it mean you became my Guru without my consent?I will get you<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)I am off to Bollywood to practice worshipping .Can I take my sister with me?Pastafarian church also needs some refreshmentBig smile

21.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 25 Sep 2009 Fri 11:59 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

oh really? how come they allowed you in the eu then? why are they ok with romania and bulgaria which are the crappiest countries in a three thosand km`s radius but not with Turkey?

 

 

The party whose posters you were commenting on was against Poles in EU and against Bulgaria and Romania. They are against Eu itself if I´m not mistaken lol It´s The Treaty Campaign - some parties are in favour and some are against - it´s not a unison voice of Ireland that says "We don´t want to sign the Treaty for fear of Muslims" - if you remember, an anti-blasphemy law was passed here that goes to ALL religions, not only Catholicism. The irish are a nice bunch of people, no matter how hard you want to make people believe otherwise.

22.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:11 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

it´s not a unison voice of Ireland that says "We don´t want to sign the Treaty for fear of Muslims" -

 

here is a quote from the leaflets of christian nazist party of england (bnp);

 

 

"oppose the dangerous drive to give 80 million Muslim Turks the right to swamp Britain"

 

 

Just because their counterparts in ireland didnt use the word "muslim" doesn`t make what you say true.

23.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:36 am

Are you asking whether this statement is racist? yeap, it sure is, but that´s what populist parties do - operate on the emotions of simple people. I wanted to draw your attention to the fact that they are also against other nations, some of them sharing the same religion so where´s logic in what you´re accusing them of?

 

Also, it is a party that is in minority and you sound like it was what Irish majority sound like. Whatever sounds more shocking, huh?

 

The bottom line is, they want to scare people by implying bigger immigration flow, not by scaring them with virgin-loving followers of Mohhamet.

 

A lovely discussion is here:

http://blogs.euobserver.com/smyth/2009/09/16/will-ukips-racist-leaflet-to-irish-voters-turn-them-off/

24.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:43 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

here is a quote from the leaflets of christian nazist party of england (bnp);

 

 

"oppose the dangerous drive to give 80 million Muslim Turks the right to swamp Britain"

 

 

Just because their counterparts in ireland didnt use the word "muslim" doesn`t make what you say true.

 

Tami, bloody hell, you are annoying me now and that takes some doing!!!!   Yes you are right the BNP do oppose immigration - ALL IMMIGRATION and the BNP are a very small minority in the UK.    And where the hell do you get the idea that the BNP are Christians??? They are scum.

 

Ireland has been hit hardest by the recession and there are not enough jobs for those that live there so what would happen to the new migrants??  The Romanians were living on round-a-bouts in the middle of roads and most were expartriated because they could not get jobs.  So what is the point of moving to a country where you CANT GET A JOB! 

 

As for Ireland they are kicking up abpout the Treaty of Lisbon which gives Brussels the right to more ruling over what Ireland does and it has nothing to do with Muslims.  They have already voted against it once and it was a resounding no.

 

I am totally offended by the implication you are making that we (UK) are all BNP supporters.  It is time you started to bang another drum.  Go watch the Teletubbies or something.

25.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:45 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

where´s logic in what you´re accusing them of?

 

the logic is;

 

They don`t hate other christians because of their religion but they hate the Turks because of their religion.

26.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:48 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

the logic is;

 

They don`t hate other christians because of their religion but they hate the Turks because of their religion.

 

 

You do talk a load of crap, what makes you think they hate Turks?  And I think you are a little bit wrong about Christians not hating other Christians - Northern Island, IRA, Catholics against Protestants (Two Christian factions)

 

27.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:50 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

Tami, bloody hell, you are annoying me now and that takes some doing!!!!   Yes you are right the BNP do oppose immigration - ALL IMMIGRATION and the BNP are a very small minority in the UK.    And where the hell do you get the idea that the BNP are Christians??? They are scum.

 

 

I get that idea from what the founder of bnp says

 

“our religion is our race.”

http://seismicshock.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/is-the-bnp-christian/

 

where do your people get the idea that akp is muslim?

28.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:52 am

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 

You do talk a load of crap, what makes you think they hate Turks?  And I think you are a little bit wrong about Christians not hating other Christians - Northern Island, IRA, Catholics against Protestants (Two Christian factions)

 

 

show me a war between them if they hate each other so much. but I can show you a war in which 6 christian countries got together, invaded a muslim country and killed hundreds of thusands of people just for being muslim.

29.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 12:57 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

@ Tami - worse! They´re Catholic lol

@Teas - do they have grass? Actually there´s hardly anything else than grass here lol Ireland is like one huge pasture with charming low stone fences. But drinking is something they enjoy way more than mowing the lawn so go figure

@ TheH - tell me the time and location and I´ll be there - worry not about pebbles/gravel/shoes - I shall bring dirty nappies lol That´ll teach them

 

The posters (and tones of leaflets I find in my mailbox every day) are just a campaign again Lisbon Treaty. They use nonsensical arguments for people with Tami´s way of reasoning. Bulgaria and Romania have restrictions on migrating to Ireland and it´s pretty tough for them to find a job. If Turkey got accepted into EU I´m sure most countries would keep restrictions for them as well. They saw what happened when they opened the border and job market for Poles and Lithuanians lol They´re afraid of another flood of cheap workforce

I will let you know for sure about the demo..But just make sure we have enough ammunition though..Just keep feeding your little terrorist..


Of course you are right about the generalisation of this type of reasoning...
Actually, the way those racists are opposing Islam and muslims is exactly the same as some people opposing to Christianity and Christians..

Their wave length is the same..
Both parties are eating from the same bawl..

The only difference happens to be the countries they live, are not the same or their religions are different..

 

See what Grand Mufti of Jerusalem said years ago:
"Racists of the world Unite   
You have nothing to lose but your slip shorts only!"

 



Edited (9/26/2009) by thehandsom

30.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:05 am

this one comes from the leaflet of bnp

 

 

20090601-people-like-you-voting-bnp-leaflet-back


31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:17 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Are you asking whether this statement is racist? yeap, it sure is, but that´s what populist parties do - operate on the emotions of simple people. I wanted to draw your attention to the fact that they are also against other nations, some of them sharing the same religion so where´s logic in what you´re accusing them of?

 

Also, it is a party that is in minority and you sound like it was what Irish majority sound like. Whatever sounds more shocking, huh?

 

The bottom line is, they want to scare people by implying bigger immigration flow, not by scaring them with virgin-loving followers of Mohhamet.

 

A lovely discussion is here:

http://blogs.euobserver.com/smyth/2009/09/16/will-ukips-racist-leaflet-to-irish-voters-turn-them-off/

 

Basically the bottom line is racist people and racist ideologies  scare people with something.

You have to "have an enemy"..

That is the common dominator among racists..

This happens to be Turks, islam  and imigration for racists of Ireland...

In Turkey the racist propaganda is about the wicked evil west (and sometimes the entire world against Turkey) for example.

A BNP racist is not a worse racist because of he happens to be British comparing to a Turkish racist or an American racist.

I am sure their level of understanding the world is the same..So as their IQ in general..

 

 



Edited (9/26/2009) by thehandsom

32.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:19 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

show me a war between them if they hate each other so much. but I can show you a war in which 6 christian countries got together, invaded a muslim country and killed hundreds of thusands of people just for being muslim.

 

Tami, read about why the invasion started - it has nothing to do with religion but money and influence. Are you really that ignorant you don´t want to acknowledge that?

 

Wars between Christians? What about Serbia? And what about the evil Nazi Christian Europe supporting the hatered Bosnian Muslims? What about the World Wars? nazi Christians attacking other Nazi Christians? Must have been for difference of Bible translations lol

 

Tami, it´s 21st century and the world is about money. Not religion. That plays little part in any western country´s foreign policy. But, apparently, it´s the only way you can believe you have an idea about politics. You want to explain everything with religion and it´s not working. Sure, there are people who hate other people for religious reasons. But no western country (all of which grant religious freedom) is at war with another country for religious reasons.

 

But of course you´ll still believe otherwise lol

33.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:20 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Basically the bottom line is racist people and racist ideologies  scare people with something.

You have to "have an enemy"..

That is the common dominator among racists..

This happens to be Turks, islam  and imigration for racists of Ireland...

In Turkey the racist propaganda is about the wicked evil west (and sometimes the entire world against Turkey) for example.

A BNP racist is not a worse racist because of he happens to be British comparing to a Turkish racist or an American racist.

I am sure their level of understanding the world is the same..So as their IQ in general..

 

 

 

That´s why Tami got so easily agitated lol

34.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:21 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

A BNP racist is not a worse racist because of he happens to be British comparing to a Turkish racist or an American racist.

 

 

 

 

show us a Turkish racist party then which declares that they will use the Turkish troops to save us from the abuse of Kurds on our streets.

35.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:28 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Tami, read about why the invasion started - it has nothing to do with religion but money and influence. Are you really that ignorant you don´t want to acknowledge that?

 

Wars between Christians? What about Serbia? And what about the evil Nazi Christian Europe supporting the hatered Bosnian Muslims? What about the World Wars? nazi Christians attacking other Nazi Christians? Must have been for difference of Bible translations lol

 

Tami, it´s 21st century and the world is about money. Not religion. That plays little part in any western country´s foreign policy. But, apparently, it´s the only way you can believe you have an idea about politics. You want to explain everything with religion and it´s not working. Sure, there are people who hate other people for religious reasons. But no western country (all of which grant religious freedom) is at war with another country for religious reasons.

 

But of course you´ll still believe otherwise lol

 

yea yea, the war was based on the imaginary destruction weapons of Saddam, right? but when it became apparent that it was just a christian lie by america, they started to say they were to bring democracy to iraq. and now this? we don`t take these lies anymore. the christians invaded iraq because the christians wanted that. and guess what, if you`re a political party and you want to get votes, you have to do what the people want. people wanted america to kill muslims and the american govt. did so to get votes. if you`re still saying it was for money show us how america benefited from the invasion financially. I have to remind you that the oil price has gone up after the invasion.

 

 

as for the wars, I was talking about the present time. If that was not the case I could point out the christian crusades too.



Edited (9/26/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

36.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:46 am

What Turkish racists say about Kurds or the Armenians can beat many of the racists in EU countries...

And more over, you would be surprised to see the level of normality they will show..

They will call it nationalism for example..

Racism is not only whites to blacks, western to eastern in EU only..

In Turkey all the racists are against the west for example..In the end racism is  the idea of "us and them"

Us can be muslims against Christians. Us happened to be ´Christians against Turks and Muslims" in BNP and Irish case.

They way they see the world and the ´others´ is the same..

Scratch a BNP guy who hates muslims, you will find a very similar guy who hates Christians or anything western in Turkey..

They are exactly the same!!

37.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 01:56 am

either do that

 

Quote:

show us a Turkish racist party then which declares that they will use the Turkish troops to save us from the abuse of Kurds on our streets.

 

or shut up

38.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 02:23 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

yea yea, the war was based on the imaginary destruction weapons of Saddam, right? but when it became apparent that it was just a christian lie by america, they started to say they were to bring democracy to iraq. and now this? we don`t take these lies anymore. the christians invaded iraq because the christians wanted that. and guess what, if you`re a political party and you want to get votes, you have to do what the people want. people wanted america to kill muslims and the american govt. did so to get votes. if you`re still saying it was for money show us how america benefited from the invasion financially. I have to remind you that the oil price has gone up after the invasion.

 

 

as for the wars, I was talking about the present time. If that was not the case I could point out the christian crusades too.

 

And here we go again, Tami´s ridiculous theory of Christian coalition...So, you think that one day, Christians gathered round a table and thought - "hey! Let´s invade a Muslim country. Any country will do really. Let´s do it because they´re not Christians!" And then they decide to force a few Muslims on flying course to killl a few thousand American citizens to have an excuse. Later, they declare war on terrorism, enter Iraq and convert Muslims into Christianity. Right. We all saw it happen.

 

The US never wanted to have more influence in the Middle East, never wanted to pass contracts on oil. Never wanted to strategically take the attention off Israel. No! They were just about religion. A nation granting freedom of faith within its own borders suddenly feels the need to give a smack to Muslims living a few thousands kilometres away. What logic!

 

I´ll repeat myself again:

1. Tami says bad things about DD

2. DD hits Tami with a baseball bat

3. Tami accuses DD of attacking him on the grounds of religious hatered as:

a) although DD is an atheist she was born in Europe and if she was born in Europe she is Christian

b) Tami is an Alevi

c) logically DD´s attack was for religious reasons

 

See - that´s your reasoning. So, if somebody steals your car - it´s because of your religion, right? I´m not sure you´ve heard about other places on Earth that the US invaded or forced to follow its policy by means of murder, blackmail or whatever. Google for American crimes and you´ll see it´s not only Muslims they´ve been at war with.

Besides, even the fact that evil west supports Israel clearly shows how little influence religion has on politics - after all, weren´t Jews the ones who murdered Christian God? lol

 

You´re trying to stir up controversy by means of simplification, lack of common sense and knowledge. It´s kind of childish and tedious

39.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 02:37 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

And here we go again, Tami´s ridiculous theory of Christian coalition...So, you think that one day, Christians gathered round a table and thought - "hey! Let´s invade a Muslim country.

 

right, just because all the countries that invaded Iraq are christian, it doesn`t mean anything. it`s just a coincidence.

 

if six muslim countries get together, invade a christian country, kill hundreds of thousands of christians

 

that`s called a muslim invasion and a christian genocide

 

if six christian countries get together, invade a muslim country, kill hundreds o thousands of muslims.

 

that`s called a coincidence

 

 

Quote:

And then they decide to force a few Muslims on flying course to killl a few thousand American citizens to have an excuse.

yea yea, you`re definitely right, they also forced those muslims to put a few tons of nano-thermites in the building for an unknown reason, although just the jet fuel would have been enough to demolish destroy that building.

40.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 02:48 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

either do that

 

 

 

or shut up

 

Geez..

See ..You have no idea about your own country!! And because your knowledge is so limited, when someone is coming and slapping you with what you do NOT know is making you easily agitated..lol

Look..Go and check..just a few years ago our racists were trying to persuade the people kurds needed population control in the middle of big cities..

Go and check what words you and your friends use for armenians..Go and check the similarities of use the words ´paki´ and ´kro´..

The racists of the UK and the Ireland are basing their racism about the foreign culture/foreign people etc not about their own people as ours do in Turkey..

41.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 02:56 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

And here we go again, Tami´s ridiculous theory of Christian coalition.....

 

 

You´re trying to stir up controversy by means of simplification, lack of common sense and knowledge. It´s kind of childish and tedious

 

This is simply "the unbearable lightness of being err..clever "..lol lol

I have never seen this type of lighthead  for a long time..

Geez..

what is it got to do with christianity or islam?

If Iraqi people were budhist would the result be different?

 

 

 

 

42.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 03:06 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

If Iraqi people were budhist would the result be different?

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, don´t you remember what happened to the Muslim Vietnamese? And Muslim Cuba? and Muslim South America? It´s so hard to be Muslim in the world run by Christian Natzists...

43.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 03:15 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Geez..

See ..You have no idea about your own country!! And because your knowledge is so limited, when someone is coming and slapping you with what you do NOT know is making you easily agitated..lol

Look..Go and check..just a few years ago our racists were trying to persuade the people kurds needed population control in the middle of big cities..

Go and check what words you and your friends use for armenians..Go and check the similarities of use the words ´paki´ and ´kro´..

The racists of the UK and the Ireland are basing their racism about the foreign culture/foreign people etc not about their own people as ours do in Turkey..

 

 

 

either do that

 

Quote:

show us a Turkish racist party then which declares that they will use the Turkish troops to save us from the abuse of Kurds on our streets.

 

or shut up

 

 

44.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 11:38 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

or shut up

 

 

 

Well..

As long as you are ´this deep´, you will always get frustrated. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

45.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 05:30 pm

You know what irritates me? People who talk about EU stuff and have no knowledge about the history of the EU. Ireland is one of the countries that had the most benefit from the EU when it entered, with HUGE amounts of money being pumped into the country to develop it (just like for example Spain) It´s a bit silly to be helped by an organization, for years and years and YEARS get more money from the organization then putting money into it. And then when other countries want to enter it, who are in the same position as your own country was not so long ago, go "oh nooo, we don´t want those people in our little group"

46.       _AE_
677 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 06:27 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

You know what irritates me? People who talk about EU stuff and have no knowledge about the history of the EU. Ireland is one of the countries that had the most benefit from the EU when it entered, with HUGE amounts of money being pumped into the country to develop it (just like for example Spain) It´s a bit silly to be helped by an organization, for years and years and YEARS get more money from the organization then putting money into it. And then when other countries want to enter it, who are in the same position as your own country was not so long ago, go "oh nooo, we don´t want those people in our little group"

 

 Ouhhh great post BM

47.       libralady
5152 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 06:34 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

You know what irritates me? People who talk about EU stuff and have no knowledge about the history of the EU. Ireland is one of the countries that had the most benefit from the EU when it entered, with HUGE amounts of money being pumped into the country to develop it (just like for example Spain) It´s a bit silly to be helped by an organization, for years and years and YEARS get more money from the organization then putting money into it. And then when other countries want to enter it, who are in the same position as your own country was not so long ago, go "oh nooo, we don´t want those people in our little group"

 

 Ahhhh I had forgotton that.......  well said Barba

 

48.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 26 Sep 2009 Sat 11:45 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

You know what irritates me? People who talk about EU stuff and have no knowledge about the history of the EU. Ireland is one of the countries that had the most benefit from the EU when it entered, with HUGE amounts of money being pumped into the country to develop it (just like for example Spain) It´s a bit silly to be helped by an organization, for years and years and YEARS get more money from the organization then putting money into it. And then when other countries want to enter it, who are in the same position as your own country was not so long ago, go "oh nooo, we don´t want those people in our little group"

 

+1000!

49.       lessluv
1052 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 02:16 am

you are all taking this too seriously.......... the real purpose of this advertising is to save the fair maidens from an overwhelming influx of duduismRazz 

50.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 02:20 am

 

Quoting lessluv

you are all taking this too seriously.......... the real purpose of this advertising is to save the fair maidens from an overwhelming influx of duduismRazz 

 

why don`t you save yourself individually? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

51.       lessluv
1052 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 02:24 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

why don`t you save yourself individually? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 it´s too late for me Head bang

52.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 03:31 pm

 

Quoting lessluv

you are all taking this too seriously.......... the real purpose of this advertising is to save the fair maidens from an overwhelming influx of duduismRazz 

 

 I´m a fairly fair maiden who just ...sort of tricked... her Turkish guy into buying her a golden ring Good education works much better then stupid advertising. Give a girl a brain, and she will fend off all the duduism!

By the way...don´t you all think that wearing a single golden ring just looks silly... I mean, it will look much better with a matching necklace or earrings, right?

53.       birdy
245 posts
 27 Sep 2009 Sun 11:22 pm

Ireland joined EU ,well at that time european economic community,in 1973 together with Britain -do you know that Britain was rejected 3 times,must have been all of AE)))and Denmark,it must have been an act of good will of Brits not to oppose this country to join.

In 1990s the country gripped by powerty and conflicts and emigration for most of its existence became with EU support one of the fastest growing economies in the world obtaining nickname of Celtic tiger in 2000.Really impressive-moving from EU  funds recipient to a net contributor,and from country of emigrants to a country of immigrants.It seems to me Irish do not want to remember who helped them opposing new waves of labour force and new members in EU.

54.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Sep 2009 Tue 10:15 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 I´m a fairly fair maiden who just ...sort of tricked... her Turkish guy into buying her a golden ring Good education works much better then stupid advertising. Give a girl a brain, and she will fend off all the duduism!

By the way...don´t you all think that wearing a single golden ring just looks silly... I mean, it will look much better with a matching necklace or earrings, right?

 

Well of course you have to get a matching necklace and earrings...please share with us your master of manipulation techniques.Roll eyes  Oh and don´t forget to get  a gold watch or bracelet while your at it..Big smile

 

55.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Oct 2009 Mon 11:56 pm

Well this is good news:

Irish does NOT listen to racists and says YES:

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/oct2009/gb2009105_247183.htm

 

And

Turkey rides on Irish ‘yes’ to promote EU entry

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/...u-entry-2009-10-05

 

So nothing is wrong with Irish!!

56.       ally81
461 posts
 10 Oct 2009 Sat 06:08 pm

merhaba arkadaþýmlar, dia duit a chairde, hello my friends

 

Im ally, i am new to this site and i am using it to learn to speak turkish so i can converse with my friends in turkey

I read this thread last nite and wasnt going to comment on it but i found i couldnt rest easy until i got some things off my chest

 

i just wonder do you not think its a bit hypocritical to berate irish people for supposed ´racism´ only to hit back with some racism towards irish people??!! two wrongs dont make a right!!!!

 

You must understand that just because some ignorant small minded people send leaflets to irish homes doesnt mean that they speak for every irish person, this is like saying one muslim extremist speaks for every muslim person or that one ku klux klan member speaks for every white christian in the west, this is crazy, the reason this leaflet was sent out was because certain campaigners on the no side realised they were losing and it was an ill thought out devious and despicable ploy to prey on the fears of the normal, put upon irish people of losing their jobs, ireland has had a major influx of immigrant workers in the last few years, this influx was mismanaged by our government leading to a lot of immigrant workers being wrongly taken advantage of for cheap labour by greedy bosses this in turn led to irish workers being forced out of jobs, this is what the leaflet was basing itself on, more cheap labour when our economy is already suffering due to the recession (ireland being a country hardest hit by the recession). however irish people were offended by this type of campaigning and obviously didnt buy into it.

 

Ireland is a multi cultutral and neutral society, which tolerates and welcomes people from every race and religion, irish people on the whole are very intolerent of racism in any form, we are neutral and do not take part in any wars, obviously as in any culture you get a minority of people who are ignorant and bigoted and think only their way is right, but this is in every country, what can be done wit these people??!!

 

i do not wish to speak for every person in ireland but in my experience irish people in general do not think in terms of religion, it never really enters our consciousness´  whatever religion, race, colour u are, if you are a nice person thats all that is important to us, myself personally i have many turkish friends and i never think of them in terms of what religion they are only that they are good nice people and are my friends

 

the people involved in this leaflet and campaign have brought shame to my country and have tarnished irelands reputation, and i want to apologise for the tone of the campaign and for the offence caused, please dont think that it represents how irish people think

 

and i just want to say that contrary to this post, i am generally not an angry or too serious person <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> i just felt the need to defend my country. i am just a simple, ´wannabe sophisticated´ irish cailin, who like many irish people probably drinks way too much and im always well up for the craic (fun and good times) Alcoholics haha

 

teþekkür ederim



Edited (10/10/2009) by ally81 [spelling mistake]

57.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 10 Oct 2009 Sat 11:20 pm

 

Quoting ally81

 

i do not wish to speak for every person in ireland but in my experience irish people in general do not think in terms of religion, it never really enters our consciousness´  whatever religion, race, colour u are, if you are a nice person thats all that is important to us, myself personally i have many turkish friends and i never think of them in terms of what religion they are only that they are good nice people and are my friends

 

 

TC´ye hoþ geldin, Ally

I couldn´t agree more with what you said. I´ve been living in Ireland for over 2 years now and I´ve never experienced any problems because of my nationality or religion (or the lack of thereof)

58.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 12:50 am

 

Quoting ally81

 this is like saying one muslim extremist speaks for every muslim person

 

yeah, I`ve never heard a christian saying that. Roll eyes

 

Quote:

Ireland is a multi cultutral and neutral society, which tolerates and welcomes people from every race and religion, irish people on the whole are very intolerent of racism in any form,

 

are those who attack the Gypsies in the Northern Ireland from mars?

59.       ally81
461 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 01:00 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

TC´ye hoþ geldin, Ally

I couldn´t agree more with what you said. I´ve been living in Ireland for over 2 years now and I´ve never experienced any problems because of my nationality or religion (or the lack of thereof)

 

 Hoþ bolduk (is this correct to say, please correct if wrong)

Im very happy you have never experienced any problems daydreamer, and i hope you like living in ireland, despite the awful weather haha i didnt mean to get so intense about defending IrelandI will get you  but im a red headed irish girl and sometimes i just cant help myself <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>

60.       ally81
461 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 01:03 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

are those who attack the Gypsies in the Northern Ireland from mars?

 

 Im sorry but i dont understand what you mean by gypsies in northern ireland???

61.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 01:10 am

 

Quoting ally81

 

 

 Im sorry but i dont understand what you mean by gypsies in northern ireland???

 

Gypsies face Northern Ireland ethnic violence

 

Thursday, June 18, 2009

 

 

The thugs used bricks and bottles to drive more than 100 Romanian Gypsies from their homes in a wave of attacks. On Wednesday, the victims were sheltering in a community center after a church plucked them off a Belfast street.

About 20 Romanian families, carrying their belongings in suitcases, duffel bags and blankets, were being sheltered on the community center´s indoor tennis courts. One man carried an accordion, while parents gripped the hands of young children and some women covered their heads with jackets and sweaters to avoid being photographed.

The families were taken in by the City Church on Tuesday after youths attacked their homes in a working-class neighborhood of south Belfast, smashing windows and hurling threats. Local authorities moved them to the roomier community center Wednesday morning. Some said the attackers had guns, but there were no reports of serious injuries.

"They made signs like they wanted to cut my brother´s baby´s throat," said one man, Couaccusil Filuis. "They said they wanted to kill us."

62.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 01:24 am

lol, Ally, I see you´ve just had the pleasure of meeting MHSN Supertits who considers everyone born in Europe and the USA a Christian Natzi on constant search of foreigners to kill. He´s a brave boy as he left his safe Muslim Turkey and moved to the Evil States of America where he´s fighting his war mostly alone at home. MHSN (aka Tamikidakika) takes incidents such as the one he quoted as a general rule. The bottom line is - you´re Irish=You´re Christian=You´re a Natzi=You beat Romanian Gypsies. Don´t argue with him, you´re part of the global conspiracy aimed at dividing Turkey/destroying Islam/forcing the whole world to be Christian. How does he know that? My guess is he had an asbestos roof at home when he was a child lol

63.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 01:33 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

lol, Ally, I see you´ve just had the pleasure of meeting MHSN Supertits who considers everyone born in Europe and the USA a Christian Natzi on constant search of foreigners to kill. He´s a brave boy as he left his safe Muslim Turkey and moved to the Evil States of America where he´s fighting his war mostly alone at home. MHSN (aka Tamikidakika) takes incidents such as the one he quoted as a general rule. The bottom line is - you´re Irish=You´re Christian=You´re a Natzi=You beat Romanian Gypsies. Don´t argue with him, you´re part of the global conspiracy aimed at dividing Turkey/destroying Islam/forcing the whole world to be Christian.

 

you`re the only person who understands me daydreamer. will you marry me? Flowers <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

 

Quote:

How does he know that? My guess is he had an asbestos roof at home when he was a child lol

 

 

I`m wondering who gossips about me! You smartass!



Edited (10/11/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

64.       ally81
461 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 04:09 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

Gypsies face Northern Ireland ethnic violence

 

Thursday, June 18, 2009

 

 

The thugs used bricks and bottles to drive more than 100 Romanian Gypsies from their homes in a wave of attacks. On Wednesday, the victims were sheltering in a community center after a church plucked them off a Belfast street.

About 20 Romanian families, carrying their belongings in suitcases, duffel bags and blankets, were being sheltered on the community center´s indoor tennis courts. One man carried an accordion, while parents gripped the hands of young children and some women covered their heads with jackets and sweaters to avoid being photographed.

The families were taken in by the City Church on Tuesday after youths attacked their homes in a working-class neighborhood of south Belfast, smashing windows and hurling threats. Local authorities moved them to the roomier community center Wednesday morning. Some said the attackers had guns, but there were no reports of serious injuries.

"They made signs like they wanted to cut my brother´s baby´s throat," said one man, Couaccusil Filuis. "They said they wanted to kill us."

 

 Firstly, this is NORTHERN IRELAND ie. they are BRITISH  not THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND who are IRISH!!!!!!!!!! so this incident has nothing to do with IRISH PEOPLE who i was refering to, who i am!!

secondaly, note it was the CHURCH who took them in!!!!!!!!

thirdly i just wanted to point out what i said in my first post :-

Ireland is a multi cultutral and neutral society, which tolerates and welcomes people from every race and religion, irish people on the whole are very intolerent of racism in any form, we are neutral and do not take part in any wars, obviously as in any culture you get a minority of people who are ignorant and bigoted and think only their way is right, but this is in every country, what can be done wit these people??!!

65.       ally81
461 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 04:18 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

lol, Ally, I see you´ve just had the pleasure of meeting MHSN Supertits who considers everyone born in Europe and the USA a Christian Natzi on constant search of foreigners to kill. He´s a brave boy as he left his safe Muslim Turkey and moved to the Evil States of America where he´s fighting his war mostly alone at home. MHSN (aka Tamikidakika) takes incidents such as the one he quoted as a general rule. The bottom line is - you´re Irish=You´re Christian=You´re a Natzi=You beat Romanian Gypsies. Don´t argue with him, you´re part of the global conspiracy aimed at dividing Turkey/destroying Islam/forcing the whole world to be Christian. How does he know that? My guess is he had an asbestos roof at home when he was a child lol

 oops too late i just argued with him lol, thanks for the heads up, note to self : must remember born in europe = must be bad haha, i shall repeat this to myself every night before i go to bed lol, funny thing is i dont seem to remember beating up any romanian gypsies haha!????!!!!!!! must be because it happened in the north!!!!!!!!

 sorry i was so long in replying but i was talking to my turkish boyfriend (or ´dudu´ as per explanations on this website bein that he is a waiter in a restaurant haha <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)) on the phone, its his birthday today!! happy birthday askim xx

 

66.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 04:32 am

 

Quoting ally81

 oops too late i just argued with him lol, thanks for the heads up, note to self : must remember born in europe = must be bad haha, i shall repeat this to myself every night before i go to bed lol, funny thing is i dont seem to remember beating up any romanian gypsies haha!????!!!!!!!

 

yeah, not all the christians are Gypsy beaters but all the Gypsy beaters are christians.

 

moreover, not all the christians are nazis but all the nazis are christians.

 

67.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 02:59 pm

Oh well, luckily there is no racism in racism... Everybody is can join the group of xenofobes and racists. As long as you hate everybody who is different than you in some way, you can join the club!

68.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 03:41 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

you`re the only person who understands me daydreamer. will you marry me? Flowers <img src=´/images/smileys//lol.gif´ alt=´lol´> (fast)

 

 

I`m wondering who gossips about me! You smartass!

Ohhhh ne tatlýsýn mhsnim...I definitely would if only the evil Christian Natzis allowed women to have more than one husband and if I could afford those laptops and mobiles. But thanks for asking

 

Gossiping? ScaredOh, my! This is awful!

 

69.       armegon
1872 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 04:59 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

Ohhhh ne tatlýsýn mhsnim... 

 

  lol  i think name is not muhsin but mahsun so should be mhsnumWink

70.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 11 Oct 2009 Sun 11:28 pm

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

  lol  i think name is not muhsin but mahsun so should be mhsnumWink

 

I didn´t know there was a name behind it I just read it as it´s written. Kind of hard without vowels but some languages have words like that

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