Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / Language

Language

Add reply to this discussion
TURKISH LANGUAGE
(92 Messages in 10 pages - View all)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ...  >>
1.       Bursali
400 posts
 07 Sep 2005 Wed 11:18 pm

What do you think about turkish language.do you think it is hard or easy to learn how to speak and write.

2.       Seticio
550 posts
 08 Sep 2005 Thu 08:11 am

I think it's one of the easiest languages I've ever learned. English is the easiest of course, but Turkish is also easy. Different, but easy.

3.       Iceheart_Omnis
106 posts
 08 Sep 2005 Thu 06:48 pm

I think Turkish spelling is quite easy (Atatürk deserves a statue just for replacing that complicated Arabic script) so it makes it friendly for learners, grammar is more complicated but at least it is quite regular.

Maybe if Turkey joins the EU it will become a more popular choice for language students

4.       jehangir
6 posts
 08 Sep 2005 Thu 07:41 pm

I find the writing quite easy, but I dont think it looks as nice as Osmanli (knowing the alphabet from Urdu and Farsi already, I could probably read some).

The grammar n stuff is pretty easy on a basic level, i.e: with only simple, "1-idea" sentences, or those using "and, but, etc," however, I find it complicated on a higher level, e.g. with participles (if you've seen my post), and the use of verb modifiers rather than auxiliary verbs with a fixed participle, for example, in the passive, Turkish uses -il- or -in-, whereas in other languages I've studied, you simply use an auxiliary verb.

Also the lack of a subjunctive (for subordinate clauses) really confuses me as I end up finding really weird ways of translating thing, which I assume are unnecessarily long and complicated. lol

Soz about the unnecessary length of this post lol

5.       Lyndie
968 posts
 08 Sep 2005 Thu 09:47 pm

Well I have to admit that I find it very difficult. However, one of the big problems for me is that I never really learned English grammar. when I went to school, back in the dark ages, we weren't really taught grammar. Obviously (obviously? to whom?) my grammar is perfect, but - it is because the schools just taught grammar in a simplistic way.

When I am trying to learn turkish grammar, I am confronted with complex 'grammatical' phrases, like 'subjunctives' 'aorist' etc. I know what verbs, nouns, adjectives, adverbs and pronouns are, and basic tenses, but the learning sites all use more complex 'grammar' language that I don't actually know, so I am having to actually learn the language of grammar as well as the new language. I hope what I am trying to say is clear.

6.       Tkebap
6 posts
 09 Sep 2005 Fri 03:31 pm

Completely agree Lyndie, I have been learning Turkish for 3 years and the hardest part has been my lack of understanding of English Grammar.I am determined to master Turkish. There is no easy way to learn a new language especially when you get older, it requires a lot of hard work and determination. I'm just sad that I didn,t learn more languages when I was at school and had a young and receptive brain. Many of the expats out here make fun of the fact that I am still attending lessons 3 years on but I reckon that even if in the end I only pick up 80% of the Language thats better than those that don't try. Why do so many Brits still think that it is acceptable in this day and age just to expect everyone to speak English. I've really enjoyed all of the lessons and will carry on with them for as long as it takes. MAYBE FLUENT AT 90 THEN

7.       Bursali
400 posts
 09 Sep 2005 Fri 11:59 pm

go turkish

8.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 10 Sep 2005 Sat 11:53 am

It's a hard question Bursali, sometimes I find particular things about Turkish quite easy, but then I come across something else that makes me bang my head against the wall in hopeless despair. What makes it hard for me to learn it is the fact that the two languages I speak (Polish and English) are totally different from Turkish. Nonetheless, I greatly enjoy learning it!
As for what is most difficult about it, I'd say - understanding the spoken language.

9.       Bursali
400 posts
 10 Sep 2005 Sat 11:11 pm

i hope i asked a good question.

10.       Cornelia
17 posts
 19 Sep 2005 Mon 09:15 am

3 years ago i made my first visit to Turkey and i couldnt understand nothing in turkish.
it took me 3 weeks to start understand the first words in turkish.After 6 month hearing the language every day i could understand and say full sentences myself.I neither learn english grammar nor turkish.My online friends says i write english good as well as turkish, but I know i make mistakes.hope in time i will learn both languages very well.

turkish is harder to learn then english of my view.

wish me good luck and patience.

11.       Lilith
16 posts
 19 Sep 2005 Mon 11:22 am

I've also just started my adventure with turkish. I stated from learning grammar from websites. I came to Turkey a month ago. I try to listen what people are saying and find the words or structures I know. But it is much easier for me to understand what people are saying than to say anything. I hope in time my speaking will get better. Now I try to learn some words by reading and solving crosswords in turkish.

12.       aliakpinar
2 posts
 23 Sep 2005 Fri 03:56 pm

Herkese merhaba,
Benim adım Ali. Ben bir öğretmenim.
Ben yeni bir üyeyim. Bu yüzden, merhaba demek istiyorum.
Görüşmek üzere.
Saygılar ve sevgiler.

13.       Bursali
400 posts
 24 Sep 2005 Sat 06:47 pm

merhaba aliakpinar.benim adim coskun ben de bir ogrenciyim.

14.       hande84
18 posts
 27 Sep 2005 Tue 05:55 am

I just started learning Turkish, and it is kinda weird learning since its totally opposite of English.But so far it isn't too complex.

15.       Bursali
400 posts
 28 Sep 2005 Wed 12:52 am

hey hande,yes its totaly the opposite of english but it is easy in a way.You read what you see , not like in english. in english there is more than one sound for every letter but in turkish mostly likely there is only one sound for every letter.

16.       hande84
18 posts
 28 Sep 2005 Wed 01:55 am

yah bursali, thats one thing I really like about it.

17.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 28 Sep 2005 Wed 10:49 pm

I have just come accross a fantastic web site for learning Turkish grammar, it goes to great lenghs of explaining everything in a simple easy to understand way. I am sure that it will be a lot of help to new learners of Turkish like myself. You can find it at http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/index.htm

18.       laura
60 posts
 29 Sep 2005 Thu 12:07 am

I've deceided to learn Turkish and have arranged my first private lesson for this Saturday.

In preparation, I decided to use this site to get to grips with the main concept of Turkish. I must be honest, I had to ready the vocab 1-3 pages at least 5 times each but it finally clicked and now understand vowel harmonies and the addition of suffixes.

It seems to me that once you can grasp the concept of structuring sentences, its pretty much word for word and stinging words together has come easier then when I had to do it in french!

Hopefully I should be a bit better in a few months and can perhaps attempt some basic translations!

This website rocks!

Ogreniyorum!!!!

19.       Bursali
400 posts
 29 Sep 2005 Thu 03:13 am

good lck with your turkish lessons.

20.       Danielle
6 posts
 03 Oct 2005 Mon 07:51 am

Merhaba everyone!

I just wanted to say one think about the Turkish language. I love the fact that it's basically all phanetic! (now this is coming from someone who lives in the sates) As soon as you know the sound of all of the letters in the alphabet you can read pretty much everything. Now granted you don't really know what the heck it means, but you can read it! That's always a start! I'm also trying to find a good way to learn the language. If anyone out there knows of good Cds or anything, please let me know... thanks...

Danielle

21.       erdinc
2151 posts
 03 Oct 2005 Mon 03:01 pm

On the top left you can see our nevigation system. Click "Turkish Language" and you will access to our lessons.
On the bottom right you will see "links". By clicking them you can access to other lessons from other websites.

From time to time please check our website since we are going to make radical changes including the lessons.

22.       Bursali
400 posts
 03 Oct 2005 Mon 11:00 pm

i belive the langusge is so good and easy.

23.       Bursali
400 posts
 03 Oct 2005 Mon 11:43 pm

langusge=languages

sorry.

24.       bab
31 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 08:11 am

where can I take turkish lessons?

25.       tomsmedley
11 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 03:00 pm

If you are living in the States, check out a local university and see if they have a "language partner program." I've really enjoyed getting to know one young couple, and am making consistent, if slow, progress with my Turkish.

26.       asik_melek
12 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 04:37 pm

Learning turkish, I must admit I find it hard. I can understand a little bit what I read but talking is pretty hard.
I have tried to learn turkish by my own asking to my friends all my doubts and yes, I can understand the grammar and how does turkish people create their sentences BUT when I listen it or try to talk a little bit my mind get confuse with turkish grammar construction coz it is very very very different than spanish.
HOwever, I really like this language and I want to learn it So badly but yes, I gotta admitt is a kinda hard.

27.       Bursali
400 posts
 06 Oct 2005 Thu 11:43 pm

they donot teach turkish with arabic alpabets anymore in turkey.

28.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 07 Oct 2005 Fri 12:11 am

bab
u must be kidding or dont know anything about turkey..
u should not have a joke like on those subject..

29.       Bursali
400 posts
 07 Oct 2005 Fri 10:31 pm

becareful bab.

30.       bliss
900 posts
 07 Oct 2005 Fri 11:10 pm

Hey Bursali, I gave you job, do it! It is better than put posts withoput understanding what are people saying in their posts.We are not playing here I think and not trying to gain points here.Honey, it is not shame to ask, if you don't understand something, it is shame to not ask.
Regards Bliss

31.       bliss
900 posts
 07 Oct 2005 Fri 11:12 pm

without*

32.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Oct 2005 Fri 11:18 pm

100% right Bliss. Why should asking about the Arabic writing be an insulting or a silly question? Not everybody knows about it! I can't believe it's normal to ask whether people shave their pubic hair but NOT normal to ask if they still teach Arabic alphabet around! Bursali, why should that be an impolite? If you find it this way, why don't you speak your mind and justify your annoyance instead of writing two words out of the blue!

33.       Bursali
400 posts
 07 Oct 2005 Fri 11:19 pm

ok im sorry bliss abla maybe im the youngest kid in here does it make you uncomfortable.im not triying to gain points if i was triying to gain points i will be the first one in most active 20.

34.       bliss
900 posts
 08 Oct 2005 Sat 06:10 am

Hello bursali,
Daydreamer is right, there is nothing wrong to ask normal question.
And why you think I have to be unhappy to have you in TC.
Everyone can be here.Especially young people.I was not insulting you.I just want you get from this lovely site everything nice and educational.I think instead your answer in the post you could explain when Turkey started to use latin alphabet.It would be better.And please do not get upset.
Regards Bliss

35.       nida
4 posts
 11 Oct 2005 Tue 01:48 pm

hello to everybody,
I am new here and i would like to learn turkish but i even dont know what i should start from. Anybody can help me?

thank you very much

36.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 11 Oct 2005 Tue 02:47 pm

Merhaba Nida,

This fantastic site has all you need to start learning Turkish, the people who are on here are wonderful, and will help you in any way that they can. You should start at the begining of this site.... http://www.turkishclass.com/basicMain.php

I have been learning Turkish since September, and am really enjoying it. I have long way to go, but already I can have a conversation on the telephone, and understand some written text.

I make it a priority to try to learn something new every day. Good luck with your learning! If I can be of any help let me know

37.       nida
4 posts
 11 Oct 2005 Tue 03:59 pm

Merhaba Lindaxxx,

I thank you alot for ur advice. I will start from this site. Hope i will be able to speak turkish after sometime. I do like this language very much.
But is it possible to learn language by on-line lessons only? I think without communication we cannot get it well.

You told you started learning it from september only. But it passed only 1 month and you already can keep conversation by phone!!! Perfect!!!

Thankxxxxxxxx
Nida

38.       timbo
1 posts
 11 Oct 2005 Tue 04:22 pm

I learned the basic phrases of Turkish on my own through books, and trying to speak ordering food at Turkish restaurants or kebap shops. Most people helped me to get the right sound. I can speak the basic hello, how are you, please, and thank you in 16 languages, but always wanted to learn more Turkish, as I live in Germany and a lot of Turkish people live here, and are always friendly when I try to speak it. Thanks for the posts on here and where to go to learn the grammar and basics, especially this website. I read this posts, but this is the first I wrote and I enjoy all the helpful comments. Thanks! TRH

39.       Lindaxxx
230 posts
 11 Oct 2005 Tue 06:08 pm

As Turkish is a phonetic language, you will not have a problem with speaking it. Once you have learnt the alphabet,(which is very easy) you can beging to put a sound to words.

When I say that I can have a short telephone conversation, it is only very basic, for example:

Merhaba sevgilim = hello darling
nasilsin = how are you
iyiyim Teşekkürler = I'm good thanks

I then pick out words that I know from what the person is saying to help me to understand what they are saying.

Get yourself a good dictionary, that has been no end of help to me.

Remember to start at the basic level of Turkish, and not try and jump ahead, or you will confuse yourself with the way a sentence is structured

40.       Bursali
400 posts
 13 Oct 2005 Thu 04:41 pm

yes it is not hard it is simple as linda said.once you know the alphabet every thing eld=se just comes to you.

Quote:

41.       Bursali
400 posts
 22 Oct 2005 Sat 07:15 pm

is there anyone who thought reading in turkish was hard.

42.       Lyndie
968 posts
 22 Oct 2005 Sat 07:23 pm

Attila once said to me - 'never mind learning vocabulary, start with the grammar' - this was the best advice I ever got about learning Turkish. I have had just 3 formal lessons so far and my (absolutely wonderful - you know who you are) teacher has started with basic grammar and it has revolutionised by learning style. Obviously you pick up vocabulary as you go, but if you start learning the suffixes and how to use them, it makes things so easy.

43.       Xesc
64 posts
 22 Oct 2005 Sat 11:37 pm

Yes it's true

44.       Bursali
400 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 09:27 pm

yup it should be true.

45.       jehangir
6 posts
 04 Nov 2005 Fri 10:49 pm

Yeh thats the approach I took ... And nw I'm bogged down with sentences containing more than one idea in a simple tense or passive or causative .

Besides I already know a fairbit of old vocab from Farsi

46.       Elisa
0 posts
 04 Nov 2005 Fri 10:58 pm

Lyndie:

Quote:

Attila once said to me - 'never mind learning vocabulary, start with the grammar' - this was the best advice I ever got about learning Turkish. I have had just 3 formal lessons so far and my (absolutely wonderful - you know who you are) teacher has started with basic grammar and it has revolutionised by learning style. Obviously you pick up vocabulary as you go, but if you start learning the suffixes and how to use them, it makes things so easy.



My teacher at school has a different approach: he stresses more on vocabulary in the beginning, and says that he will keep the "real" grammar for later. I don't always like that. I agree that a language is much easier to understand when you realize how words, sentences, are built.
Fortunately I know someone who I can pester and bore with my questions about grammar Yes, when you read this, you also know who you are.

Elisa

47.       blueaircl
7 posts
 05 Nov 2005 Sat 06:15 pm

I am a Chinese,I wanna learn Turkish so much.
But there ain't Turkish lessons in my city,I only can learn by myself.
Honestly,I think Turkish learning is hard for me.It is real different from my mother language.

48.       Attila
144 posts
 05 Nov 2005 Sat 07:46 pm

If u r living in China you may go to xinjiang to learn turkish,As I know there are 7 million uighur turks living there

49.       Bursali
400 posts
 12 Nov 2005 Sat 08:29 pm

i think it might be hard for you to learn turkish, because turkish alphabet is so different from chinise.i hope you could learn turkish one day...

50.       mella
202 posts
 16 Nov 2005 Wed 02:54 pm

Quote:

Attila once said to me - 'never mind learning vocabulary, start with the grammar' - this was the best advice I ever got about learning Turkish. I have had just 3 formal lessons so far and my (absolutely wonderful - you know who you are) teacher has started with basic grammar and it has revolutionised by learning style. Obviously you pick up vocabulary as you go, but if you start learning the suffixes and how to use them, it makes things so easy.



I also agree. Although vocabulary is very important in Turkish, the grammar is the most useful issue to begin with.

51.       nmmasterz
1 posts
 16 Nov 2005 Wed 08:07 pm

So how hard or complicating do you think it would be for an American to live in Turkey? Or in Almati in the mountains?

52.       erdinc
2151 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 03:10 am

Quoting nmmasterz:

So how hard or complicating do you think it would be for an American to live in Turkey? Or in Almati in the mountains?



Greetings nmmasterz,
welcome to Turkish Class.
Since this topic and this section of forum is about learning Turkish it would be more appropriate to post in our special forum on living in Turkia. Regards.

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTopic_15

53.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 17 Nov 2005 Thu 03:12 am

i actually think that a language's level of difficulty depends on what ur first language is, right?

54.       Bursali
400 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 12:49 am

i think it should be easy for you to live in turkey. but if you want to live in mountains of turkey than you would need some else to live or be with you. mountains might be a dangerous area to live.

55.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 01:58 am

Quoting miss_ceyda:

i actually think that a language's level of difficulty depends on what ur first language is, right?


i am like prof

56.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 01:41 pm

Well I have now learned 6 suffıxes! My vocabulary is building all the time and I can read so much more easily now İ can break down the words and recognise the suffixes.

İ can now also write my own sentences.

İt ıs harder to speak because İ dont get so much practise but İ still agree with Attia 100%
GRAMMAR GRAMMAR GRAMMAR first

57.       Elisa
0 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 01:54 pm

When did you start studying Turkish, Lyndie?

Elisa

58.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 02:20 pm

I started learning Turkish in a disorganised way last summer. Just simple 'holiday' phrases. Then again in the Autumn I started learning more seriously, but again in a disorganised way and concentrating on vocabulary. I got my advice from Attila before I started my personal tuition which is now 7 1 hour lessons ago. My teacher says I learn quickly. Well that is 60% his fabulous teaching style, but it also helps that I remember all the stuff I learned in a disorganised way.
What I mean is, I leaned a lot, but i didn't know how to use it. Now i have had formal organised lessons, the old stuff I learned is coming back to me and falling into place.

Strangely enough I have learned a lot from music also. I am crazy about Ismail YK (ok ok I can hear all the groans and hissing sounds from the Turkish class mates - I know you all hate the 'Scrumptious One') Anyway, i listen to their music all the time, it is permanently on my car cd and I listen at home whenever the family can bear it or are out. I have translated some of my favourite songs. My point, when i get round to it, is that i have 'absorbed' pronunciations, I can 'see' the words and how they sound, because I also always download the lyrics to my favourite songs and this has also helped me enormously.

My teacher laughs at me all the time, because he will ask me how I know a particular word and then i start singing to him the song that I learned the word from. For example this week, he asked me how I knew 'düşmek' and I started singing 'Geceler' to him. I have learned countless words in this way!

there are also some grammar rules that I learned from listening to the songs also. I just didn't know I'd learned them until my teacher taught me a particular rule and I thought to myself 'OH yeah! - like blah blah'

If you learned French in an English school, you will remember that they always teach you a few songs. It is an obvious learning tool. Because songs are generally fun to listen to.

Ismail YK sings a lot of slow songs which are quite short and easy to find and download as are the lyrics. The slow songs make it easier to listen to the actual words and if you can read the lyrics while you are listening, this helps tune your 'ear' to allow you to 'hear' the words that you are looking at.

The only downside to this, is that my early Turkish vocabulary were all about love, loss and sorrow : D
'Son Defar' Last Time
'Nerdesin' Where are you
'Isterim Seni' I want you
'Seni Ozledim' i missed you
'Elveda' Farewell
blah blah blah blah ............

59.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 02:26 pm

yeah... i have used songs a lot in my turkish studies too... i think ur right about how they get your ears used to the words...
what also helps is if u get the song's lyrics in turkish and english next to each other and then just keep reading through them as the song is playing.. then u actually know what u are singing.. enjoying the song.. and actually learning what all the words means too..!
good luck.. and ur very lucky to have a turkish teacher... i wish i did..

60.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 02:45 pm

I am at a frightening standstill with my Turkish I started last April and approached it as a trained linguist by learning the whole grammar. Unfortunately it proved not really a good option as I totally neglected the vocabulary. Now I am looking for ways for memorising words but be it my age () or poor memory retention - I somehow end up banging my head against the wall when I come across a word that I HAD seen but still can't remember it.
I am a native of one of the most difficult languages to learn and I am a language teacher so learning a new language should not be very difficult. However, my limited contact with Turkish results in passive knowledge. I can write but when it comes to speaking...don't ask...
As Lyndie said, it's best when you have a tutor who'll not only guide you and organise your learning process but also provide contact with pronunciation and make you interact not only verbally.

61.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 02:49 pm

i think that the best way of memorising words is to just make a huge list of them and their translations and just keep re-reading through them all! you will be very shocked at how this really helps u... it works for me.. actually.. i havent read through my list for a while.. there was a point when i was so determined to learn turkish that i was reading through 100s of words everyday in order to learn them it really works too u kno
good luck

62.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 02:52 pm

thx - actually this is what i did - i have a list with over 1,000 words that i keep reading but...i somehow never have a chance to use them in a context so i keep learning it like Chinese

63.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 02:57 pm

hehe.. of course.. it has to be used too.. arent there any turkish people who u know who u could chat to online..
i do actually think this is what hepled me more than anything.. for my writing of course..
to help me speak proper turkish the only thing that helped was being in a turkish environment

it was quite strange u know.. after going to turkey in april for a couple of weeks and not saying that much bcoz of my level of turkish it made me come back and study like crazy.. hehe and of course it was all reading and writing.. and then when i went to turkey for the summer i expected all the turkish i had learnt to just come out of my mouth naturally and perfectly.. and when it didnt.. it was quite weird u kno hehe like i couldnt say the words at all..

and now after staying in turkey for 2 months, and building my confidence and actually being able to speak with ease.. im scared again as i am now back in england... what am i going to do if its like it was before and im not gonna be able to say anythign again!!??!!

64.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 03:02 pm

Sure I do have Turkish frds but they somehow seem more interested in using English while talking to me(is my Turkish THAT bad ??? ). But you've got a point there that going to Turkey makes your motivation double. Let's see how many people I'll make laugh when I'm there in February

65.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 03:04 pm

hehe.. well.. u are very brave i think... i didnt dare say anything in fear of sounding funny.. :S i had to first make sure that i knew enough turkish to explain myself to a reasonable level!! good luck with that!!

dont u know any people who just speak turkish?? i think spekaing to them would really help u!

66.       Elisa
0 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 03:27 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

...I somehow end up banging my head against the wall when I come across a word that I HAD seen but still can't remember it.



Oh how I recognise this!!
But what helps for me is sticking papers with those words on the wall in the bathroom, fridge door, toilet, where ever, places where you come a lot. After a while, when you try to remember the word, think of the fridge door for example and you see the word as well.
One day I was trying to memorize a list of infinitives. There were a couple of words that I really couldn't remember, it made me crazy and frustrated. At night I woke up for no special reason, and the first things that came to my mind were those words I couldn't remember!! lol
I don't think that going to sleep is the solution, but I do think it shows how much your brain is busy with it without you realizing it.

67.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 03:37 pm

hehe yeah.. i did this too but was to shy to say it.. i thought that maybe u would all think that i was a bit deli... well i am i suppose...

hehe.. u should have seen my bedroom.. covered it stick it notes with words on them!! hehe

i think sticking words like "gideyim_ let me go" is a good thing because it teaches u a rule as well as just a word... then ud know that its "yapayım" "bakayım" etc.

68.       Elisa
0 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 03:56 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Quote:

hehe yeah.. i did this too but was to shy to say it.. i thought that maybe u would all think that i was a bit deli... well i am i suppose...



It helps, so I don't care if people think it's crazy

Quote:

hehe.. u should have seen my bedroom.. covered it stick it notes with words on them!! hehe

i think sticking words like "gideyim_ let me go" is a good thing because it teaches u a rule as well as just a word... then ud know that its "yapayım" "bakayım" etc.



Well, now that we're pouring out: I stuck the Turkish numbers on the toilet wall. So yes, that is where I learned counting mainly
(And watching kids programs)

69.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 03:58 pm

hahahaa... ayyy... omg.. im laughing so much.. hihi... maybe we could all make a tape too eh..? sow hen we open the toilet door it reads out the turkish alphabet hehe

70.       Elisa
0 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 04:16 pm

And when you flush, another tape starts with the words you find difficult to remember

Aah, suddenly the linguistic future looks so bright!!

71.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 04:18 pm

hehe... yeah.. and i dont wanna know what it plays when u take the paper from the holder

72.       Elisa
0 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 04:27 pm

I wasn't gonna tell you anyway. Some things I prefer to keep to myself

73.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 04:29 pm

hehe... i really wish i had time these days to carry on with studying turkish.. im far too busy... which is terrible coz in the 2 months i have been backin england i could have learnt so much more u know... its a pity... and now iv got all my exams coming up so i will have to study for them instead.. offf beee offf....

74.       Elisa
0 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 04:33 pm

But you must have some time to keep on chatting now and then with your friends, no? At least that would be something. You wouldn't really lose what you've learned till now.

75.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 04:46 pm

i suppose ur right.. i chat to a lot of turkish people... that definitely helps

76.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 05:33 pm

Well ladies, this has helped me reading your ideas. I don't know why someone of my age and experience didnt think of the 'post it note' trick, but I'll certainly give it a go. Miss Ceyda, the 'gideyim' post has revolutionised my own learning, because I aint gonna forget that now EVER, so thanks for that.

The speaking 'toilet roll holder' is a bit disconcerting. But i can't see anything wrong with posting a list of verb conjugations on the wall at eye level .

I don't think any of will see their homes featured in 'Ideal Home Magazine' at this rate.

What colour post it notes do you recommend by the way?

77.       Lyndie
968 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 06:30 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

hehe yeah.. i did this too but was to shy to say it.. i thought that maybe u would all think that i was a bit deli... well i am i suppose...

hehe.. u should have seen my bedroom.. covered it stick it notes with words on them!! hehe

i think sticking words like "gideyim_ let me go" is a good thing because it teaches u a rule as well as just a word... then ud know that its "yapayım" "bakayım" etc.



By the way Miss C. 'Let me go' - does this mean in the

I want to go to the cinema - let me go
or
Take your hands off me this minute - let me go

Way? Or both?

78.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 10:15 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

Well ladies, this has helped me reading your ideas. I don't know why someone of my age and experience didnt think of the 'post it note' trick, but I'll certainly give it a go. Miss Ceyda, the 'gideyim' post has revolutionised my own learning, because I aint gonna forget that now EVER, so thanks for that.

The speaking 'toilet roll holder' is a bit disconcerting. But i can't see anything wrong with posting a list of verb conjugations on the wall at eye level .

I don't think any of will see their homes featured in 'Ideal Home Magazine' at this rate.

What colour post it notes do you recommend by the way?



im glad that i could help...
and the colour of the post it notes.. hımm.. i suppose that would depend on the colour of your bathroom mats eh? hihi

79.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 10:17 pm

Quoting Lyndie:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

hehe yeah.. i did this too but was to shy to say it.. i thought that maybe u would all think that i was a bit deli... well i am i suppose...

hehe.. u should have seen my bedroom.. covered it stick it notes with words on them!! hehe

i think sticking words like "gideyim_ let me go" is a good thing because it teaches u a rule as well as just a word... then ud know that its "yapayım" "bakayım" etc.



By the way Miss C. 'Let me go' - does this mean in the

I want to go to the cinema - let me go
or
Take your hands off me this minute - let me go

Way? Or both?



miss. c?? hihi wow.. look how professional that sounds.. hihi
ermm... i suppose that it could mean both yeah...

"sinemaya gideyim"= let me go to the cinema
"gideyim" = let me go...

yeah.. its both id imagine

80.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 20 Nov 2005 Sun 11:37 pm

http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/submood.htm

this will explain that gideyim thang

81.       Lyndie
968 posts
 21 Nov 2005 Mon 12:16 am

Bum Bum aklima ben tüküreyim,
Güm Güm basima alip yine nere gideyim,
Öldüm bittim bittim ben,
Öldüm bittim bittim ben,


I just knew I know a song with 'gideyim' in.
5 house points to the first to 'recognise that song!'

82.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 21 Nov 2005 Mon 12:22 am

Quoting Lyndie:

Bum Bum aklima ben tüküreyim,
Güm Güm basima alip yine nere gideyim,
Öldüm bittim bittim ben,
Öldüm bittim bittim ben,


I just knew I know a song with 'gideyim' in.
5 house points to the first to 'recognise that song!'



YURTSEVEN KARDEŞLER... SAPPUR SUPPUR

83.       Lyndie
968 posts
 21 Nov 2005 Mon 12:25 am

Bravo Miss C. I just knew you would be the one to get it! 5 points for you - go immediately to the top of the class!

i loved your essay by the way, I gave you a nice comment. It is beautiful.

84.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 21 Nov 2005 Mon 01:02 am

i got a comment?? really? gdgd... i will check it in a minute... and of course i would guess the song.. im a pro hehe

85.       silenzioso
5 posts
 25 Nov 2005 Fri 03:44 am

i was following Tomer italian course and i have met lots of people from Asia who were trying to learn turkish and they were telling me that it was hard.. i also think the same and i sometimes think that i am lucky coz it's my native language

86.       lizb
10 posts
 25 Nov 2005 Fri 11:19 am

Quoting Lyndie:

Well I have to admit that I find it very difficult. However, one of the big problems for me is that I never really learned English grammar. when I went to school, back in the dark ages, we weren't really taught grammar. Obviously (obviously? to whom?) my grammar is perfect, but - it is because the schools just taught grammar in a simplistic way.

When I am trying to learn turkish grammar, I am confronted with complex 'grammatical' phrases, like 'subjunctives' 'aorist' etc. I know what verbs, nouns, adjectives, adverbs and pronouns are, and basic tenses, but the learning sites all use more complex 'grammar' language that I don't actually know, so I am having to actually learn the language of grammar as well as the new language. I hope what I am trying to say is clear.



I agree with lyndie on this one, I'm finding it very hard to understand grammar etc. but I'll keep going till I do understand even if I have to go through my Turkish language book over and over.

87.       Curios
1 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 01:46 pm

Hi, everybody!!

Want to ask on question:
Does anybody know if there are such words/phrazes in Turkish, that sound like/look like "sheez balabam"?

Thanks in advance!

88.       erdinc
2151 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 03:38 pm

Quoting Curios:

Hi, everybody!!

Want to ask on question:
Does anybody know if there are such words/phrazes in Turkish, that sound like/look like "sheez balabam"?

Thanks in advance!


Sounds like Azerbaijan Turkish to me.

89.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 03:52 pm

"Chez Balaban" (part French, part Turkısh and roughly meaning BALABAN'S PLACE) is a stupid but likely name for a bar/restaurant/apart hotel, in Southern Turkey.

90.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 06:42 pm

Well trying to answer the first question.. I don;t think Turkish basics are difficult. But you need a good 'index' of what to learn otherwise you feel like you loose control. That's why i loved this site so much when i just began (im still a beginner,but that is due to time). It gave a clear overview of the basictopics. Before i knew this site, i had started myself, and i totally felt like i didnt have control over anything of the language so you basically feel like your going nowhere. Once you have a good list of basictopics, and follow it, tick it off once ur finised with a subject

Other than Lyndie, I've got much 'experiences' with phrases such as conjunctive, aorist, subjunctive, because I have Latin and Ancient Greek education. For me it is easy to 'know' what they mean. But knowing many different languagestructures makes it more difficult for me, because each structure is different tho sometimes the same phrases are used. A Latin aorist is differently used than a Turkish one, not to mention my mothertongues structure, Dutch.

I don't remember who said English was easy but i really don't agree. I speak quite fluent, but to use English grammar completely perfect and pronounce each new word well, is VERY hard. I would consider English as one of the most difficult European languages.

Oh and to clear a bit up: the French word CHEZ basically just means 'at' and is used in several situations, but it is very correct to translate it like 'smo's place'.. because:
Chez moi = at me = at my place.

When i read the dictionary, i see many words come from French. For example the word 'papiyon', comes from Papillon which means Butterfly in French. Situations as in "Chez Balaban", are they commonly used?

91.       Vincent
7 posts
 01 Dec 2005 Thu 10:40 pm

What is the most difficult part of learning Turkish.For me its the use of object and subject participles,yen,en,dik etc. Ireally have problems with these. Anybody help? tesekkurler

92.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 12:18 am

Quoting Vincent:

What is the most difficult part of learning Turkish.For me its the use of object and subject participles,yen,en,dik etc. Ireally have problems with these. Anybody help? tesekkurler



Vincent,
learning these details by studying them wont be enough I think. You will forget them soon. You need to read Turkish texts after you have an average knowledge of the grammar. It is possible to become an advanced expert on Turkish grammar without even actually speaking the language. So my advice would be to decrease the density of grammer and to read texts after a sufficient period of grammar study.
For the learners reading can be much more useful than speaking with natives. As you might have realised once you get the feeling of sounds you will be able to do it right forever.
In summary I think it is For Turkish the path to follow is grammar + reading + speaking + writing, in that order.

(92 Messages in 10 pages - View all)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ...  >>
Add reply to this discussion




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
T-E
og2009: İNSAN VE AMEL ... dünya dinlerinin ... ... üzere : B...
Individually Tailored Private Turkish Less...
sumrutemur: Do you want to learn Turkish? Do you want to improve your speaking, wr...
Short English>Turkish plz
Tazx1: Please can a Native speaker of Turkish translate the following sentenc...
E-T: Fasten your seatbelts this is going t...
harp00n: Emniyet ... ... bu; cehenneme yolculuk olacak.
What is the difference between this 2 sent...
harp00n: Actually, there are no difference between them.
Izmir?
og2009: Thank you very much : Çok ... ederiz
Alevi song translation?
Roja: I liked this a lot, but failed to understand some parts. Could anyone ...
Learn Turkish
ani_istanbul: Small groups or 1-1 * Classes also available on ... * Qualified, ......
Aşağıdaki cümlede \"istersen\"in ne an...
BlackDays: Literally it means "if you ... But we sometimes use that ... like in t...
T-E: gisganiyeah and gidiyeah
mrdr: Hi, These are regional dialect and are not good Turkish. Eko...
10 Kasım
Leo S: "Eğer bir gün benim ... bilimle ters ... bilimi ... "If somed...
T-E
og2009: ... BAŞLICA TARİHSEL SORUN ve ... Bil...
Random Pictures of Turkey
Add thumbnails like this to your site
Most commented
To be

Turkish lesson by admin
Level: beginner