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Who Says Ataturk was a Dictator; Kurdish Propaganda 101
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1.       hayvanherif
59 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 05:14 am

Who Says Ataturk Was a Dictator?

 

I say dictators and fascists themselves. Indeed this piece of crap from the kurdishmedia.com proves it nicely. Here you will read the heart-touching grievance of a Kurdish fascist to his boss America.

 

Keep in mind that, this is not a blog entry, but a column from an online news site. That will give you a rough idea about what these racist fascist liar scums are.

 

For the sake of clarity, I highlighted the most obvious and funny lies in the text.

 

 

 

http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=15742

 

The Turkish regime is well known by the world for committing crimes against the Kurds, the Armenians, Greeks and the other minority groups. Millions of people murdered and genocide by the former Turkish dictator Kamal Ataturk for instance in 1915. Then, since all the Turkish states in the past and current shamelessly tried to commit the same action of crime against the Kurds and the other nationalities in Anatolia. After the collapse of the former Soviet Union in 1991, many nationalities like Kurds hoped that one day they will be freed from their oppressors. I personally believe that the USA will lead the world and everybody will enjoy the freedom and democracy. Even the former USA President Gorge W Bush, stated before the collapse of the former executed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, that he will deliver democracy to the darkest corner in the world. The darkest corner in the World is Kurdistan. The Kurdish rights have always been denied by the oppressors of Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq for centuries. Since the occupation of Muslims 13 centuries ago our rights were jeopardised, and we are still without a state. As Gerald and other authors believe in democracy and the freedom of other nationalities, Gerald mentioned lately in his article that Kurdistan is like another Israel in the eyes of the Arab countries, he is quite right, always has been this way and Kurds have been blamed that we are the agents of Israel and America. If this is the case, why did the Israeli planes lately participate with the Turkish war planes to bombard the Kurdish villages in 16th December 2007, in Iraqi Kurdistan? Is not it shame on the Israeli Government to take an awful action to help the Barbarian State of Turkey against the defenceless Kurdish villagers in Kurdistan? Did the Israeli Government ask itself, that why have they done that against the Kurds? Have the Kurdish people or any political parties in the past or now hurt any Israeli solder? Or have any terrorist activities been committed by the Kurds against the state of Israel. If the answer is no, so why the Israeli Government participated in this crime? They did not ask the Turkish Government to grant more rights to the Kurds. Kurdish people believe that they are more close to the Jewish people than any other nationality in the Middle East. Kurds and Jewish people were genocide by the Arab Muslims in the past during Mohammed up until now. The suicide Muslim Arab bombers in Israel and in Kurdistan are still murdering innocent people as they did 13 centuries ago. This scenario from one hand and there is another amazing scenario from the other hand.

 



Edited (10/30/2009) by hayvanherif

2.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 12:21 pm

The "blog" is indeed nonsense - the writer seems to be confusing the word "tyrant" with "dictator".  HOWEVER....

 

If you look at the definition of "dictator":- 

 

A dictator is a ruler (e.g. absolutist or autocratic) who assumes sole and absolute power with military control but, without hereditary ascension such as an absolute monarch.The word originated as the title of a magistrate in ancient Rome appointed by the Senate to rule the republic in times of emergency (see Roman dictator and justitium).[2]In modern usage, the term "dictator" is generally used to describe a leader who holds and/or abuses an extraordinary amount of personal power, especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly. Dictatorships are often characterized by some of the following traits: suspension of elections and of civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents without abiding by rule of law procedures; these include single-party state, and cult of personality.

Then draw your own conclusions....



Edited (10/30/2009) by _AE_
Edited (10/30/2009) by _AE_

3.       hayvanherif
59 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:20 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

The "blog" is indeed nonsense - the writer seems to be confusing the word "tyrant" with "dictator".  HOWEVER....

 


 

 

 

I think I clearly indicated that it`s not a blog site but an online news site, and the fascist clown is a "columnist".

 

 

Quote:

If you look at the definition of "dictator":- 

 

A dictator is a ruler (e.g. absolutist or autocratic) who assumes sole and absolute power with military control but, without hereditary ascension such as an absolute monarch.The word originated as the title of a magistrate in ancient Rome appointed by the Senate to rule the republic in times of emergency (see Roman dictator and justitium).[2]In modern usage, the term "dictator" is generally used to describe a leader who holds and/or abuses an extraordinary amount of personal power, especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly. Dictatorships are often characterized by some of the following traits:

 

 

it`s interesting that the only thing you picked as wrong from the text is the definition of dictator. so eveything else in it is true?

 

 

Quote:

suspension of elections and of civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents without abiding by rule of law procedures; these include single-party state, and cult of personality.

Then draw your own conclusions....

 

 

hmmm according to this definition Saddam was not a dictator as he held elections although the only candidate in the elections was himself. Guess what. George Washington didn`t have any opponents when he was "elected" into the presidency either. So who is dictator and who is not?



Edited (10/30/2009) by hayvanherif

4.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:24 pm

Well - as I said, draw your own conclusions!  You cannot take single points from the definition, but must judge on the majority of points

 

 

5.       hayvanherif
59 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:27 pm

By the way, if you want to see a real life fascist dictator in today`s world, you can look at the pseudo Kurdistan who is ran by a primitive tribe leader called Borazani.

6.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:28 pm

 

Quoting hayvanherif

By the way, if you want to see a real life fascist dictator in today`s world, you can look at the pseudo Kurdistan who is ran by a primitive tribe leader called Borazani.

 

 It is really no "defence" to start listing dictators!

7.       hayvanherif
59 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:28 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

Well - as I said, draw your own conclusions!  You cannot take single points from the definition, but must judge on the majority of points

 

 

 

hmmmm so that confirms that you agree with everything else in the text.

8.       hayvanherif
59 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:29 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 It is really no "defence" to start listing dictators!

 

no it`s all about hypocrisy versus being consistent.

9.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:29 pm

 

Quoting hayvanherif

 

 

hmmmm so that confirms that you agree with everything else in the text.

 

 I was talking about the text that I posted on the definition of a dictator

Pay attention!

10.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Oct 2009 Fri 02:30 pm

 

Quoting hayvanherif

 

 

no it`s all about hypocrisy versus being consistent.

 

 The title of the thread was not "let´s make a list of dictators" I believe - the question was regarding Ataturk

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