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Major Earthquake in Haiti
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10.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 02:52 am

 

Quoting murat elhamri

 

 

 

someone should tell femme that Haiti is a christian country.

 

and?

11.       murat elhamri
26 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 02:54 am

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

and?

 

and that christians don`t hate christians

12.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:59 am

 

Quoting vineyards

 

 

It is a pity, we take every opportunity to distort some statements in an unnecessary defensive attitude. I am tired of pointing out to how irrelevant many of those are.

 

For God´s sake, it is an earthquake. It does not have anything to do with Norwegians or Turks. Help if you can and everyone else is invited to do so too.

 

Agreed, maybe it´s a good time to review disaster prepardness?  I stayed with some Turkish earthquake survivors in 2001.  They gave me excellent advice.  It was: Always keep a flashlight, keep a whistle and water available.  Since that time I always have the first two with me.  I got a dual power flashlight (solar and battery), and I also sent a few to Turkey. The water I keep in my home and car. I was told with the flashlight you can see where you are, the whistle allows you to let people know where you are. (the voice wears out pretty fast)....and water, of course....you need it to stay alive. 

 

In Haiti now lack of water is the most urgent issue.  Due to the infrastructure damage, it´s very difficult to get things in to the country.  The horror and destruction is unimaginable (to me).

 

This site has excellent information on being prepared for emergency situations.

 

Are You Prepared?



Edited (1/15/2010) by alameda [edit]

13.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 11:30 am

I have one of those LED-flashlights, which works by turning a handle a couple of times. No battery needed. But the thing is... I´m prepared for the worst, and nothing like this will ever happen in Holland. In Haiti, the risk was always there. This country has been hit many times by hurricanes, and the risk of an earthquake was always there. Most people in Haiti however could NOT prepare, since most of them were simply struggling in their normal day-to-day life. If you have the choice between diner tonight, or a flashlight just in case...well, you would choose diner

 

So, yes, prepare yourself for power blackouts and stuff like that. Especially in Turkey, with the earthquake risk there. And at the same time, start giving money!!! If you have not given money yet, and just used your time to say things about Muslims or Christians or Jedi´s ... shame on you... I´m cross at you... But I won´t be cross anymore if you give money

14.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 12:21 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I have one of those LED-flashlights, which works by turning a handle a couple of times. No battery needed. But the thing is... I´m prepared for the worst, and nothing like this will ever happen in Holland. In Haiti, the risk was always there. This country has been hit many times by hurricanes, and the risk of an earthquake was always there. Most people in Haiti however could NOT prepare, since most of them were simply struggling in their normal day-to-day life. If you have the choice between diner tonight, or a flashlight just in case...well, you would choose diner

 

So, yes, prepare yourself for power blackouts and stuff like that. Especially in Turkey, with the earthquake risk there. And at the same time, start giving money!!! If you have not given money yet, and just used your time to say things about Muslims or Christians or Jedi´s ... shame on you... I´m cross at you... But I won´t be cross anymore if you give money

 

phew phew it took me about 3 mins to transfer the money online. the charity service here is very good.

 

as for the haiti, i of course dont have a good opinion about this completley corrupted country.

 

haiti will never be prepared for such disasters. i bet all the money soon will go into the private pockets. and the poverty and hopelessness will continue at the cost of poor people´s lives.

 

the west will try to build the hospitals or organize a project to prevent a mass death, but i know it will end up going nowhere.

15.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 03:54 pm

I know, it is a struggle. One of my friends works for Oxfam in that area, and it´s hard to get things done the right way over there. On the one hand you have the responsibility towards the people who donate, to make sure the money ends up where it needs to. On the other hand, corrupt locals slow down processes a lot, because the organization is not willing to give bribes. But right now, you can be sure that at least a part of your money can never get in corrupt hands. Rescue dogs can not be bribed

16.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:18 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I know, it is a struggle. One of my friends works for Oxfam in that area, and it´s hard to get things done the right way over there. On the one hand you have the responsibility towards the people who donate, to make sure the money ends up where it needs to. On the other hand, corrupt locals slow down processes a lot, because the organization is not willing to give bribes. But right now, you can be sure that at least a part of your money can never get in corrupt hands. Rescue dogs can not be bribed

 

im not really concerned bout my money.

 

my concerns go further. soon all this chaos come to the end, newspapers will stop printing headlines about the tragedy, and haiti will go back to its poverty and utter corruption.

17.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 04:58 pm

Mostly true, but there are organisations that are trying to make a difference. They cannot change the entire country, but they try to make a difference one person at a time.

18.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 07:12 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Mostly true, but there are organisations that are trying to make a difference. They cannot change the entire country, but they try to make a difference one person at a time.

 

look, the same orgs tried to change things in africa with no effect (with the help of zillions of euros and dollars). in some places some things never change.

19.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 15 Jan 2010 Fri 08:03 pm

Well, there is a new wind blowing. There are people who are starting to realise that it´s not only help-organisations that can fix things, or only governments who can fix things. In my opinion, a new way of dealing with these kind of issues is working through partnerships. Companies, civiel society, and governments, all working together and sharing their knowledge to try and make a sustainable change. It´s not happening a lot now, but the first steps are being made in certain countries as we speak.

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