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More Turkish/Irish connectons, 85% of Irish descendant from Turks
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1.       ally81
461 posts
 22 Feb 2010 Mon 01:08 pm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article7009643.ece

 

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/so-thats-why-we-love-kebabs-2051032.html

 

I doubt I´m one of the descendants Cry what with my red hair and blue/green eyes, I couldn´t be more Irish haha.  It is nice to have another connection to Turkey though {#emotions_dlg.yes}

 

 

2.       si++
3785 posts
 22 Feb 2010 Mon 02:40 pm

The Galatians were in their origin a part of the great Celtic migration which invaded Macedon, led by Brennus. The original Celts who settled in Galatia came through Thrace under the leadership of Leotarios and Leonnorios circa 270 BC. Three tribes comprised these Celts, the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

 

Also our capital city Ankara is said to be founded by Galatians and the name comes from their language meaning "anchor" (as found in English today).

3.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 05:04 am

 

Quoting si++

The Galatians were in their origin a part of the great Celtic migration which invaded Macedon, led by Brennus. The original Celts who settled in Galatia came through Thrace under the leadership of Leotarios and Leonnorios circa 270 BC. Three tribes comprised these Celts, the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

 

Also our capital city Ankara is said to be founded by Galatians and the name comes from

their language meaning "anchor" (as found in English today).

Interesting si++...but I would imagine the fact that the "farmers" were around tilling fields and planting seeds has a lot to do with it.  Rather than planting seeds, the "hunters" were out hunting.

4.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 09:49 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

Interesting si++...but I would imagine the fact that the "farmers" were around tilling fields and planting seeds has a lot to do with it.  Rather than planting seeds, the "hunters" were out hunting.

 

Quoted from the wikipedia link:

 

The fate of the Galatian people is a subject of some uncertainty, but they seem ultimately to have been absorbed into the Greek-speaking populations of west-central Anatolia.

 

 

So they should have been absorbed to Turkish speaking people in the end. My point is that it is no surprise to me to find some genetic similarity. In the past the Celtic people lived in Anatolia and disappeared. Where may they have gone to?

5.       Yersu
241 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 01:12 pm

 

Quoting ally81

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article7009643.ece

 

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/so-thats-why-we-love-kebabs-2051032.html

 

I doubt I´m one of the descendants Cry what with my red hair and blue/green eyes, I couldn´t be more Irish haha.  It is nice to have another connection to Turkey though {#emotions_dlg.yes}

 

 

 

Well; the Turkishness of people who migrated from Turkey 5000 years ago is somewhat dubious

 

Here is some real connection between Irish & Turks though:

 

"In 1845, the onset of the Great Irish Famine resulted in over 1,000,000 deaths. Ottoman Sultan Abdülmecid declared his intention to send 10,000 sterling to Irish farmers but Queen Victoria requested that the Sultan send only 1,000 sterling, because she had sent only 2,000 sterling. The Sultan sent the 1,000 sterling but also secretly sent 3 ships full of food. The English courts tried to block the ships, but the food arrived Drogheda harbor and was left there by Ottoman Sailors.

Due to this the Irish people, especially those in Drogheda, are friendly to the Turks. This event led to the appearance of Ottoman symbols on Drogheda United’s emblem."

(Them stingy English lol)

 

Amblem of Drogheda United:

 

 

6.       ally81
461 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 01:29 pm

 

Quoting si++

The Galatians were in their origin a part of the great Celtic migration which invaded Macedon, led by Brennus. The original Celts who settled in Galatia came through Thrace under the leadership of Leotarios and Leonnorios circa 270 BC. Three tribes comprised these Celts, the Tectosages, the Trocmii, and the Tolistobogii.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

 

Also our capital city Ankara is said to be founded by Galatians and the name comes from their language meaning "anchor" (as found in English today).

 Thanks si++ was a very interesting read, nice to learn new things

 

7.       ally81
461 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 01:48 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

Well; the Turkishness of people who migrated from Turkey 5000 years ago is somewhat dubious

 

Here is some real connection between Irish & Turks though:

 

"In 1845, the onset of the Great Irish Famine resulted in over 1,000,000 deaths. Ottoman Sultan Abdülmecid declared his intention to send 10,000 sterling to Irish farmers but Queen Victoria requested that the Sultan send only 1,000 sterling, because she had sent only 2,000 sterling. The Sultan sent the 1,000 sterling but also secretly sent 3 ships full of food. The English courts tried to block the ships, but the food arrived Drogheda harbor and was left there by Ottoman Sailors.

Due to this the Irish people, especially those in Drogheda, are friendly to the Turks. This event led to the appearance of Ottoman symbols on Drogheda United’s emblem."

(Them stingy English lol)

 

Amblem of Drogheda United:

 

 

 

 Thanks yersu, yeah I´m quite familiar wit this Irish/Turkish connection.  It always seems to gets brought up in conversation with my friends in Turkey when I´m there haha, have actually talked about it, in another thread on here, once before!  I don´t live too far from Drogheda, just down the road in Dublin, where they originally tried to dock the ships laden with food, but were blocked by the English.  Hehe ´stingy English´ well thats one way of putting it lol {#emotions_dlg.lol}  Thanks to the Turks for their tenacity against them Wink

8.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 02:13 pm

Yersu,

 

love your fantasy. i mean love you turks making up stories.

did sultan also send money to portsmouth?

 

The crest of Drogheda United is an adaptation of the crest of Drogheda town´s coat of arms, which feature the heraldic symbols of a star and crescent over a shield depicting St. Lawrence´s Gate, three lions and a ship. The three lions passant represent England - as Drogheda lay within the Pale and was a garrison town - and the ship represents the town´s port.

While Drogheda United share the same symbols and colours as Trabzonspor, in Turkey - both recently declared to be brother teams.

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

Well; the Turkishness of people who migrated from Turkey 5000 years ago is somewhat dubious

 

Here is some real connection between Irish & Turks though:

 

"In 1845, the onset of the Great Irish Famine resulted in over 1,000,000 deaths. Ottoman Sultan Abdülmecid declared his intention to send 10,000 sterling to Irish farmers but Queen Victoria requested that the Sultan send only 1,000 sterling, because she had sent only 2,000 sterling. The Sultan sent the 1,000 sterling but also secretly sent 3 ships full of food. The English courts tried to block the ships, but the food arrived Drogheda harbor and was left there by Ottoman Sailors.

Due to this the Irish people, especially those in Drogheda, are friendly to the Turks. This event led to the appearance of Ottoman symbols on Drogheda United’s emblem."

(Them stingy English lol)

 

Amblem of Drogheda United:

 

 

 

 

9.       ally81
461 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:07 pm

 

Quoting lemon

Yersu,

 

love your fantasy. i mean love you turks making up stories.

did sultan also send money to portsmouth?

 

The crest of Drogheda United is an adaptation of the crest of Drogheda town´s coat of arms, which feature the heraldic symbols of a star and crescent over a shield depicting St. Lawrence´s Gate, three lions and a ship. The three lions passant represent England - as Drogheda lay within the Pale and was a garrison town - and the ship represents the town´s port.

While Drogheda United share the same symbols and colours as Trabzonspor, in Turkey - both recently declared to be brother teams.

 

 

 

 

 Yersu is wrong about the reason behind the coat of arms, but many people jump to this conclusion upon hearing this particular history.  The coat of arms actually pre-dates the famine by hundreds of years!! 

 

For more:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/talk:drogheda

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43973

 



Edited (2/23/2010) by ally81
Edited (2/23/2010) by ally81

10.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:13 pm

 

Quoting ally81

 

 

 Yersu is wrong about the reason behind the coat of arms, but many people jump to this conclusion upon hearing this particular history.  The coat of arms actually pre-dates the famine by hundreds of years!! 

 

For more:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/talk:drogheda

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43973

 

 

yes, i know darling.

 

the symbol itself is not islamic at all, its borrowed from ancient cults that can be dated to 5-7 BC.

 

anyway, thanks for confirming.

 

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