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More Turkish/Irish connectons, 85% of Irish descendant from Turks
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10.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:13 pm

 

Quoting ally81

 

 

 Yersu is wrong about the reason behind the coat of arms, but many people jump to this conclusion upon hearing this particular history.  The coat of arms actually pre-dates the famine by hundreds of years!! 

 

For more:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/talk:drogheda

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43973

 

 

yes, i know darling.

 

the symbol itself is not islamic at all, its borrowed from ancient cults that can be dated to 5-7 BC.

 

anyway, thanks for confirming.

 

11.       ally81
461 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:16 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

yes, i know darling.

 

the symbol itself is not islamic at all, its borrowed from ancient cults that can be dated to 5-7 BC.

 

anyway, thanks for confirming.

 

 

no problem canım

 

12.       Yersu
241 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:24 pm

 

Quoting ally81

 

 

 Yersu is wrong about the reason behind the coat of arms, but many people jump to this conclusion upon hearing this particular history.  The coat of arms actually pre-dates the famine by hundreds of years!! 

 

For more:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/talk:drogheda

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43973

 

 

Hmm interesting. I had quoted that text from some blog. Thanks for the correction.

 

13.       Yersu
241 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:29 pm

 

Quoting lemon

Yersu,

 

love your fantasy. i mean love you turks making up stories.

did sultan also send money to portsmouth?

 

The crest of Drogheda United is an adaptation of the crest of Drogheda town´s coat of arms, which feature the heraldic symbols of a star and crescent over a shield depicting St. Lawrence´s Gate, three lions and a ship. The three lions passant represent England - as Drogheda lay within the Pale and was a garrison town - and the ship represents the town´s port.

While Drogheda United share the same symbols and colours as Trabzonspor, in Turkey - both recently declared to be brother teams.

 

 

 

 

What does this whole thing have to do with my tendency of making up stories? Go to Google, type "Irish Ottoman", click the first result and you will see the text I´ve quoted. I didn´t make it up, yet is seems to be incorrect so thanks for the correction.

 

I find your remarks about making up fantasies distasteful, do not go there.

14.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:40 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

What does this whole thing have to do with my tendency of making up stories? Go to Google, type "Irish Ottoman", click the first result and you will see the text I´ve quoted. I didn´t make it up, yet is seems to be incorrect so thanks for the correction.

 

I find your remarks about making up fantasies distasteful, do not go there.

 

yeh, yersu my dear boy. who cares what is tasteful or not. all in all im not here to make tasty. i make it sour and bitter.

 

yes there is a huge tendency among easterners to create urban myths, because there is a complex of west in them.

 

and why the heck would you take for true anything you find in the internet? dont you check it first? you need some critical eye. you dont paste the first text your eyes catch.

 

 

15.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:44 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

What does this whole thing have to do with my tendency of making up stories? Go to Google, type "Irish Ottoman", click the first result and you will see the text I´ve quoted. I didn´t make it up, yet is seems to be incorrect so thanks for the correction.

 

I find your remarks about making up fantasies distasteful, do not go there.

 

wow, i cant believe you can read and take seriously such rubbish bloggie sites.

 

and you say we (easterners) dont make up stories!  we do!!!

16.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:53 pm

It always makes me laugh a little how my husband, who is Turkish, tries to insist that EVERYTHING is Turkish.  Really, I am Irish and just want to be Irish....I don´t care who migrated to where hundreds of years ago and might have breed with an outside tribe{#emotions_dlg.razz}.  Honestly, with all the migrating that went on in the world, is anyone really a pure blooded anything?  Woops, sorry, the Turks are the only unspoilt people on earth!  hahaha

 

And, Lemon....do try to not be so sour!  You are making my face pucker!



Edited (2/23/2010) by Elisabeth

17.       Yersu
241 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 03:55 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

wow, i cant believe you can read and take seriously such rubbish bloggie sites.

 

and you say we (easterners) dont make up stories!  we do!!!

 

Well I would really like to say I learnt my lesson and it will not happen again but tbh. it is very hard to verify everything you post. Anyway; being an "Easterner" and classifying yourself under the  pronoun "we", you have all my sympathies

 

Yes we indeed have many stories like that, especially the notorious "X´s are actually Turks" (X: variable) claims etc. I know some of those are fantasies, a lot of those stories have to do with a failed imperial past and being an insignificant  3rd world country nowadays, but I just feel like defending when someone points it out anyway. That´s why I said don´t go there, because even if you tell the truth I will have to discuss and defend somehow

18.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 04:04 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

Well I would really like to say I learnt my lesson and it will not happen again but tbh. it is very hard to verify everything you post. Anyway; being an "Easterner" and classifying yourself under the  pronoun "we", you have all my sympathies

 

Yes we indeed have many stories like that, especially the notorious "X´s are actually Turks" (X: variable) claims etc. I know some of those are fantasies, a lot of those stories have to do with a failed imperial past and being an insignificant  3rd world country nowadays, but I just feel like defending when someone points it out anyway. That´s why I said don´t go there, because even if you tell the truth I will have to discuss and defend somehow

 

 Actually, the fact that many Turks try to find commonality in different cultures is flattering in a way.  It reminds me of the movie, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," when the father in the movie always tried to find the Greek root of every word (even if the word was Japanese).  It is human nature to seek what is common in obviously different things.  Human nature dictates that we try to connect to eachother.



Edited (2/23/2010) by Elisabeth

19.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 04:10 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

Well I would really like to say I learnt my lesson and it will not happen again but tbh. it is very hard to verify everything you post. Anyway; being an "Easterner" and classifying yourself under the  pronoun "we", you have all my sympathies

 

Yes we indeed have many stories like that, especially the notorious "X´s are actually Turks" (X: variable) claims etc. I know some of those are fantasies, a lot of those stories have to do with a failed imperial past and being an insignificant  3rd world country nowadays, but I just feel like defending when someone points it out anyway. That´s why I said don´t go there, because even if you tell the truth I will have to discuss and defend somehow

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.owned} ahahahaha you made my day! loved your posts. you see the point is i go anywhere i want to! thats the beauty of it.

and please, dont you ever get offended by my posts. i post out of boredom.

many kazakhs create urban legends and believe in them. and when you reveal the truth to them they get wounded. they suddenly feel exposed, naked and humiliated. and their reaction is a defence at all costs.

 

20.       lemon
1374 posts
 23 Feb 2010 Tue 04:15 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

It always makes me laugh a little how my husband, who is Turkish, tries to insist that EVERYTHING is Turkish.  Really, I am Irish and just want to be Irish....I don´t care who migrated to where hundreds of years ago and might have breed with an outside tribe{#emotions_dlg.razz}.  Honestly, with all the migrating that went on in the world, is anyone really a pure blooded anything?  Woops, sorry, the Turks are the only unspoilt people on earth!  hahaha

 

And, Lemon....do try to not be so sour!  You are making my face pucker!

 

aha!  {#emotions_dlg.whistle} i know that. and you know they all come from central asians! {#emotions_dlg.silenced}

 

lemon can only lemonize! i make old urban limescales dissolve.

 

what can i say? mesopotamia is messypotamia. the craddle of humanity not only civilizations! {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

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