I try to save energy, but if I was rich, would I really make such a big effort... The thing is, the whole idea behind climate change is that what I do in my house right now, will affect others for a long time to come. The deserts are growing. For me personally that´s not a big deal. And if the water of the seas rise, we will just build bigger dikes. But for the people who see their cattle die, because they can´t find any green grass to eat because of the lack of water, for those people climate change is the real killer. I believe in climate change, although it is open for a lot of discussion. I believe in it, and would like to see others believe in it to see if we can keep people alive.

It´s not a matter of "how much did we polute compared to this or that". It´s about a natural balance that is being disturbed. I don´t think we should wait untill the proof is enormous, but start taking measures right now. A lot of people didn´t believe in the hole in the ozon layer for a long time, until the proof grew to such an enormous size that it couldn´t be denied anymore. Measures were taken, certain chemicals were banned. And see, the hole became smaller. Humans DO have an effect on the environment in my opinion, and there´s not harm in believing that.

What´s the point in not believing in climate change?

Whether you believe in climate change or not, everyone should do whatever they can to reduce their carbon footprint and stop being so wasteful.  Maybe there is nothing we can do to control the overall climate....but we certainly don´t have to make it worse and we certainly don´t have to be so wastesful. 

texans have no right to say anything about anything!

Whether you believe in climate change or not, everyone should do whatever they can to reduce their carbon footprint and stop being so wasteful.  Maybe there is nothing we can do to control the overall climate....but we certainly don´t have to make it worse and we certainly don´t have to be so wastesful. 

barba,

you are disappointing me. I will not comment on your post untill you check all the possible resources both re: climate change and ozone depletion.

but I will answer your question. My point of not believing in the scare propaganda is that I dont wish to take part in it after seeing the results of my own research.

I do what I do for recycling and saving energy purely out of human duties. I hate waste. you dont waste energy - you dont waste money. everything has its own meaning without any global scare propaganda.

Ah, hate to disappoint you But don´t worry, I looked into the pro´s and con´s. I have to say, it´s not a very clear cut issue. And for this issue, I do understand the people who say, the evidence is not convincing enough for me. But it IS convincing enough for me I had to form an opinion on this for my job, and I had to read a LOAD of research on it, and I´m not talking about only a few UN-reports or something (I don´t trust UN reports, only the pieces that I worked on myself ). So don´t worry, even though we don´t agree, I have not disappointed you as much as you think.

Excuse me for interrupting for a moment. I´m still stuck here. Today I rang the hotel in Turkey and in my best Turkish had to tell them that I wouldn´t be there until Monday. I think they understood-impressive heh ? 

You can carry on now.

thank you for informing, i hope you wont loose your hotel reservations.

Excuse me for interrupting for a moment. I´m still stuck here. Today I rang the hotel in Turkey and in my best Turkish had to tell them that I wouldn´t be there until Monday. I think they understood-impressive heh ? 

You can carry on now.