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40.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Apr 2010 Thu 08:01 pm

Post deleted due to personal insults.

41.       armegon
1872 posts
 30 Apr 2010 Fri 01:32 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

 I know you did...but a question...aren´t you afraid of being labelled as "racist" by those who already labeled yersu..?

 

{#emotions_dlg.lol}  I am a little famous with that label here, and members who agreed with me, are also subjected to be called with that name calling...

42.       scalpel
1472 posts
 30 Apr 2010 Fri 02:08 am

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

{#emotions_dlg.lol}  I am a little famous with that label here, and members who agreed with me, are also subjected to be called with that name calling...

 

 Haha! luckily "even the deaf sultan in Egypt heard that" I am not one of those, yani ben yırttım {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} Well, to be serious, I wouldn´t care if they labelled me as racist only because I don´t think the same way as them.

43.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 30 Apr 2010 Fri 01:05 pm

I will try to make you people understand where I come from, when I call people racist with some of the remarks they make towars Kurds or Gypsies.

 

Part of my family has a different ethnic background. Before the second world war, they were always judged. They were of this group, so they must be like this... don´t trust them...they are greedy, all people from this group are greedy. Judge judge judge, that´s all people did. They never made an effort to get to know my family, or learn what the culture was all about.

 

When the war came, my family had to hide, pretend like they weren´t what they really are. As if the years of name calling and judging weren´t enough, now they had to fear for their lives. Most of my family survived, by hiding somewhere and changing the way they looked. Some of my family got caught and survived, but was severely traumatized. Some of my family got caught and died under horrible circumstances.

 

Excuse me, if my hair stands straight up if I hear people talk about entire groups of people... "they´re like this"... "oh, something bad happened? It must have been somebody of THAT group"... It reminds me too much of the stories that my family told me, of how they were treated before the war started, and sometimes even after the war was finsihed. Because, no, when the people who survived came out of hiding, people didn´t leave their judging where it belonged, in the garbage... people continued with judging and discriminating, only a little less then before.

 

People who exactly know in advance what somebody will do, just because they are from a certain culture, *bleep* me off. I´m not  some sort of hippy. I don´t believe there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I know from my personal family´s history where all this pre-judging and YES racism, can lead to.

44.       Trudy
7887 posts
 30 Apr 2010 Fri 01:13 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I will try to make you people understand where I come from, when I call people racist with some of the remarks they make towars Kurds or Gypsies.

 

Part of my family has a different ethnic background. Before the second world war, they were always judged. They were of this group, so they must be like this... don´t trust them...they are greedy, all people from this group are greedy. Judge judge judge, that´s all people did. They never made an effort to get to know my family, or learn what the culture was all about.

 

When the war came, my family had to hide, pretend like they weren´t what they really are. As if the years of name calling and judging weren´t enough, now they had to fear for their lives. Most of my family survived, by hiding somewhere and changing the way they looked. Some of my family got caught and survived, but was severely traumatized. Some of my family got caught and died under horrible circumstances.

 

Excuse me, if my hair stands straight up if I hear people talk about entire groups of people... "they´re like this"... "oh, something bad happened? It must have been somebody of THAT group"... It reminds me too much of the stories that my family told me, of how they were treated before the war started, and sometimes even after the war was finsihed. Because, no, when the people who survived came out of hiding, people didn´t leave their judging where it belonged, in the garbage... people continued with judging and discriminating, only a little less then before.

 

People who exactly know in advance what somebody will do, just because they are from a certain culture, *bleep* me off. I´m not  some sort of hippy. I don´t believe there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I know from my personal family´s history where all this pre-judging and YES racism, can lead to.

 

Great post!

45.       stumpy
638 posts
 30 Apr 2010 Fri 05:39 pm

Everyone at one time or another has been at the receiving end of racism.

 

In 1755 my people were taken form their land, put on ships and sent to the gallows in England, some were sent back to France, which they had never seen in their life and others landed down in Louisiana.  Many thousands died, all because they would not pledge allegiance to the crown of England so they were perceived as a threat.  It was genocide.

 

I have been called a F@’ing French Frog because I am French.

I have been beaten up by English people because I speak French.

I have been called a square head because my last name is English.

I have been beaten up by French people because my last name is English.

I have been treated of half bread because I have native Canadian blood in me.

I have been looked down on by native Canadians because I am not pure blood native.

I even have been put down by certain members of my family because I moved away and made a comfortable life for myself.

They say I am better than them that I know everything just because I did not stay in a little backward country town and moved to the “big” city.

 

When someone calls me a F@’ing French Frog I look at them and croak like a frog.

When they call me square head, I tell them “at least I can fit in a box”.

When they call me half breed I say I rather be a half breed than a no breed.

 

If you let those comments or action get to you then the people saying those words or doing those actions have won over you, they have the power.

 

If you get outraged, scream and such then that is what they remember but if you stay calm then they are the ones that have lost because they did not get a reaction from you.

 

In the end it is the way you react to racism, ignorance and stupidity that leaves the last impression.

 

So I am proud to say that I am a half breed square head frog and if people are not happy about that it is not my problem but theirs.  They are the ones that are miserable and sad.

 

And yes it is sad that their is racism but that is how the world is! 

 



Edited (4/30/2010) by stumpy

46.       metehan2001
501 posts
 02 May 2010 Sun 02:16 am

 

Quoting catwoman

What a weird mentality! What a reply to the post! {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

 

Spritzer, Trudy can post whatever news she wants. If you want to post articles about how great gender relations are in Turkey, you are free to do so.

 

"So, catwoman, if Trudy can post whatever news she wants, then I believe I can also post the following news and you can allow it to be remained here."

 

30 April 2009, Thursday

TODAY´S ZAMAN -  İSTANBUL


Ten soldiers killed in PKK terrorist attacks

 

Ten soldiers were killed and two others were wounded in two separate in attacks carried out by members of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in southeastern Turkey yesterday.

In the first attack, nine soldiers were killed and two others were wounded by an explosion in Diyarbakır yesterday morning. The soldiers were traveling in an armored vehicle along the Diyarbakır-Bingöl highway in Lice when the blast occurred. Experts said there had been at least 100 kilograms of explosives planted along the highway.

“A tank and an armored personnel vehicle were patrolling for road security. There was an explosion after the tanks passed and nine died,” Chief of General Staff Gen. İlker Başbuğ announced at a news conference in Ankara.

 “Our guess at the moment is that it was a homemade bomb of very powerful explosives. Most likely it was remote controlled or detonated by cable,” Başbuğ told reporters, noting that the attack had made the military more determined than ever to fight terrorism.

Two of the soldiers killed were special sergeants while the other seven were privates, Başbuğ added.

The slain soldiers patrolled the same highway every day to ensure the security of the civilians using the road. Such patrols have resulted in the discovery of explosives buried under the soil by PKK members many times, military sources said.

News of the second PKK attack came on Wednesday afternoon from Hakkari´s Şemdinli district, where one soldier was killed when PKK terrorists opened fire on security forces.

The Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) launched ground and air operations against the PKK terrorists following the attacks.

The attacks followed a recent announcement by the PKK that it wouldn´t be staging any attacks against Turkish security forces in the region until the summer.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan stressed Turkey´s determination in its fight against terrorism while expressing his sadness over the killings yesterday. "Such heinous attacks will not influence the counterterrorism fight of our heroic security forces, which they carry out with determination."

"We will continue our struggle in all fields. This struggle has many aspects, regarding security, politics and socioeconomic and socio-psychological factors. We will continue to take steps in all these fields as part of our struggle. We will carry on with this struggle hand in hand with those who support rights and freedoms until we achieve our goal," Erdoğan told a meeting of his ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) yesterday. The attacks also followed the detention of nearly 100 people for alleged ties to the PKK during police operations two weeks ago. Among those arrested were several members of the Democratic Society Party (DTP), Turkey´s largest Kurdish political party. Officials said the raids and arrests were the culmination of a one-year investigation into the PKK´s "urban extensions."

DTP Chairman Ahmet Türk said his party was "deeply sorry" for the killings and that children and youth should not be made to pay the cost of the country´s problems. He added that there was a greater need than ever for giving democratic politics a chance to solve problems.

The DTP does not recognize the PKK as a terrorist organization, although it is recognized as such by Turkey, the United States and the European Union.

The PKK has been fighting for self-rule in Turkey´s Southeast since 1984 in a conflict that has killed tens of thousands of people, but it is less powerful than it was in the 1990s. Its leader, Abdullah Öcalan, was captured in 1999 and is serving a life sentence on the prison island of İmralı.

Turkey has launched repeated aerial attacks on PKK targets in northern Iraq and staged a ground offensive across the border last year. The government has taken some steps to grant more cultural rights to Kurds, acknowledging that military action alone cannot resolve the situation.

 



Edited (5/2/2010) by metehan2001

47.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 May 2010 Mon 11:32 am

Metehan - i´m not Kitty but you can post all kinds of news you want - just open a new thread and do it

 

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