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Turkey, Russia to lift visa requirement
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30.       lemon
1374 posts
 13 May 2010 Thu 07:11 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Just migration is actually a lot. I see a lot of Polish workers here, who have a job here, save money, and use it back home to build something for themselves. But yeah, politics, it´s like pre-school Everybody wants to have a buddy to play with and stick up for them on the playground. "If you are my friend, you have to help me when people bully me, but I will give you a lollipop!" Some things never change

 

Such a delusion!

 

As for Russia. All I know from the history is that nothing good came out of union with Russia. But who knows?

31.       janissaridis
148 posts
 14 May 2010 Fri 10:34 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

True, Turkey would be a more stable partner for Russia then any former Soviet Union. But let´s say, Turkey gets oil from Russia. What will Russia get from Turkey?

 

 Turkish men:

 

 

DJxxxx

32.       lemon
1374 posts
 14 May 2010 Fri 10:47 am

 

Quoting janissaridis

 

 

 Turkish men:

 

 

DJxxxx

 

Amen!

33.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 14 May 2010 Fri 10:40 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

Such a delusion!

 

 

 

There was some research on what Polish workers did with their money they earned in Holland. Because some racist a-holes in Holland were complaining that "the Polish people were coming but never leaving again" they researched if this was true. Turned out the majority of the Polish people would stay here a maximum of 2, 3 years after which they would start a business in Poland. So, for the majority, not a delusion.

 

By the way, I heard something about Russia building a nuclear plant in Turkey...



Edited (5/14/2010) by barba_mama

34.       si++
3785 posts
 16 May 2010 Sun 01:52 pm

For example, yes, we are members of NATO and it is a very important dimension of our relations. But nobody should limit our relations only to military or security bases. If there is no economic dimension, cultural dimension and diplomatic dimension, that military dimension alone will not be strong enough to develop a model partnership. Now, if we are so compatible and need each other, to be frank, it is not easy to explain why the total trade volume between Turkey and the United States is only around 16 billion US Dollars, while Turkish-Russian trade volume is 38 billion US Dollars, more than double. We can speak of Korean memories; but with Russia, throughout the Cold War, we were in different camps and we were seeing each other as enemies. However, after the Cold War, within 15 years we reached the level of 38 billion US Dollars in our trade relations. Now, how can we explain that our trade volume with our main strategic ally with whom we worked together for 50 years during the Cold War and defeated the Soviet threat together is just 16 billion US Dollars? This is not sustainable. This cannot continue.

 

Quoted from: the Speech Delivered by the Minister of Foreign Affairs H.E. Ahmet Davutoğlu at the 28th Annual Conference on US-Turkish Relations Organized by ATC-DEIK

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