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10.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:06 pm

Someone killed freedom of speech here. You are getting angry when Muslims protest the Mohammed cartoons. You say it is freedom of speech. Well let me say you are not different from those fanatics. Now return the membership of spritzer and apologize.

11.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:13 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

Someone killed freedom of speech here. You are getting angry when Muslims protest the Mohammed cartoons. You say it is freedom of speech. Well let me say you are not different from those fanatics. Now return the membership of spritzer and apologize.

 

Asking people not to draw, not to write, not to speak, not to talk is fascism. It does not matter where it comes from..

It can come from an angry crowd in pakistan with the demand ´not to publish cartoons´, it can come from an angry person who needs cold shower with the demand ´take down your burka picture´. They both are the same fascism..

Everybody needs to learn how to be tolerant and have some sense of humour.. !!!!

12.       lemon
1374 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:15 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

Someone killed freedom of speech here. You are getting angry when Muslims protest the Mohammed cartoons. You say it is freedom of speech. Well let me say you are not different from those fanatics. Now return the membership of spritzer and apologize.

 

There never was a freedom of speech! What are you talking about?

13.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:17 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Asking people not to draw, not to write, not to speak, not to talk is fascism. It does not matter where it comes from..

It can come from an angry crowd in pakistan with the demand ´not to publish cartoons´, it can come from an angry person who needs cold shower with the demand ´take down your burka picture´. They both are the same fascism..

Everybody needs to learn how to be tolerant and have some sense of humour.. !!!!

 I think everybody has a right to write what he/she thinks. And everybody has a right also not to agree. Not agreeing isn´t a crime but deleting a person who doesn´t agree is a crime against freedom of speech. Somebody must correct this mistake. Anyone can ask you for anything. It is not a crime unless they use power. Administration used power here.

 



Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum
Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

14.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:26 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 I think everybody has a right to write what he/she thinks. And everybody has a right also not to agree. Not agreeing isn´t a crime but deleting a person who doesn´t agree is a crime against freedom of speech. Somebody must correct this mistake.

 

 

Exactly..

She and some others ridiculously tried to lynch somebody´s right to put up a picture into her profile here.. Freedom of speech doe not mean you can "ban something because you dont agree with it"..

And that person took her anger into level of insult.. That is all..

 

15.       lemon
1374 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Exactly..

She and some others ridiculously tried to lynch somebody´s right to put up a picture into her profile here.. Freedom of speech doe not mean you can "ban something because you dont agree with it"..

And that person took her anger into level of insult.. That is all..

 

 

If I start deleting your posts you will get angry too.

This is an old trick. You make someone angry, then apply your admin powers by deleting posts as per wish, the user gets more angry and reaches out for the last resort - swearing and insulting. And then you can easily get rid of the unwanted user. Wink

 

Lets not talk about freedom and rights - you can play this in your own back garden.

16.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:46 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Exactly..

She and some others ridiculously tried to lynch somebody´s right to put up a picture into her profile here.. Freedom of speech doe not mean you can "ban something because you dont agree with it"..

And that person took her anger into level of insult.. That is all..

 

 

 They provoked her and made her insult. They mocked her, deleted her messages. This is a provocation. But you know what the big provocation is? It is "mocking those poor women who want to get education". This was the biggest provocation. Spritzer witnessed how those poor girls and women live. She was in Afghanistan for a time. And she witnessed very bad things towards women. She helped them. This made her very sensible on that matter. She is an humanist. And I am proud of having such a friend. She doesn´t sit and talk like us but she goes and helps people. She defended her ideas but you provoked her. Administration wasn´t neutral on this matter. They must correct their mistakes.They are as guilty as spritzer. They must resign or give spritzer her membership back.



Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

17.       admin
758 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:47 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

Wow! What a democratic site! You are crying every time "freedom of speech." But you can´t stand one negative opinion. I am sure you will say she insulted you but let me say you insulted her. Now I will go on translating to help people, but I have no respect for admins and their supporters.

 

Your posts are still here, so obviously it is not negative opinions that is deleted.

 

As for the insults, you don´t see the deleted messages so you don´t know the full extent of the things said and done after multiple warnings.

18.       admin
758 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:49 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

Someone killed freedom of speech here. You are getting angry when Muslims protest the Mohammed cartoons. You say it is freedom of speech. Well let me say you are not different from those fanatics. Now return the membership of spritzer and apologize.

 

We have clear rules that personal insults are not allowed on this site and can result in account deletion. If someone continues to make personal attacks/insults against other members after being warned, we consider the option of account deletion. Otherwise this forum would be like a nuthouse that many of the complainers here would find not worth visiting. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, just simple rules to keep order.

19.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:51 pm

 

Quoting admin

 

 

Your posts are still here, so obviously it is not negative opinions that is deleted.

 

As for the insults, you don´t see the deleted messages so you don´t know the full extent of the things said and done after multiple warnings.

 

 Some admins provoked her. I am a witness. They mocked her and deleted some of her posts. They are as guilty as spritzer. They were never neutral on this subject.

20.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 07:51 pm

 

Quoting admin

 

 

We have clear rules that personal insults are not allowed on this site and can result in account deletion. If someone continues to make personal attacks/insults against other members after being warned, we consider the option of account deletion. Otherwise this forum would be like a nuthouse that many of the complainers here would find not worth visiting. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, just simple rules to keep order.

 

 But you allow provocation i guess.

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