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40.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:25 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

 They provoked her and made her insult. They mocked her, deleted her messages. This is a provocation. But you know what the big provocation is? It is "mocking those poor women who want to get education". This was the biggest provocation. Spritzer witnessed how those poor girls and women live. She was in Afghanistan for a time. And she witnessed very bad things towards women. She helped them. This made her very sensible on that matter. She is an humanist. And I am proud of having such a friend. She doesn´t sit and talk like us but she goes and helps people. She defended her ideas but you provoked her. Administration wasn´t neutral on this matter. They must correct their mistakes.They are as guilty as spritzer. They must resign or give spritzer her membership back.

 

 You seem to have dismissed the insults that were hurled by her....continuously.  Provocation was not one sided here.  The fact is that spritzer didn´t like some pictures and wanted them removed.  When she didn´t get what she wanted she did not let the situation go and continued to push in an agressive and inappropriate manner.  She was asked to tone it down but refused. 

 

Administration has a right to ask someone to stop...no matter who they are and what side they are on.  I have been asked to tone down my comments in the past myself but I don´t take it personally and I don´t "ramp it up" when I am asked to tone it down! 

 

You don´t have a right to demand that anyone resign here or give someone´s membership back just as spritzer had no right to demand that pictures be removed.  You talk about freedom of speech but what about Elisabeths right to freedom of expression???  You and spritzer were not here when the pictures were originally posted so how can you judge her rational for posting them.  And whether or not she had a "reason" doesn´t matter.....she has a RIGHT!

 

You want to sanctify spritzer, that´s your right...but how do you know anything about the good deeds done by those that you are now vilifying?  Don´t condemn what you don´t know!

 

No one did any wrong to spritzer.  She took her own path and she obviously didn´t want to be here in the first place.

 

 

41.       admin
753 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:33 pm

 

Quoting zeytinne

Admin! Why thehandsom was not deleated for insults on forum and private messages ?

 

Okay, two things:

1. He was deleted and got reinstated couple days back. Please point me to the insults on the forum and we will evaluate. 

 

2. We are more tolerant towards occasional misbehavior of users who spend time and effort to contribute to this site. theHandsom did some real contributions to TC as opposed to some users whose only activity is yelling around. 

42.       admin
753 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:35 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

 You can´t expect such a thing. It is something like somebody can swear to your mom or your wife and you mustn´t attack him. Because you must be mature enough. Judge even can find you innocent in this situation because of provocation. You shouldn´t allow provocation in the first place. If you do, you can´t have a right to delete a person who insults.

You are mixing things up just to support your point. If someone swears to your mom or wife, that is dealt with as a personal attack and not as a provocation. That is reason for potential account deletion, with or without warning. 

43.       zeytinne
596 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:35 pm

...some animalistic sex essay ?

44.       admin
753 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:38 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 I made my point. I will not argue anymore. I saw your real faces.

 

{#emotions_dlg.stoneage}

45.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:40 pm

 

Quoting admin

 

You are mixing things up just to support your point. If someone swears to your mom or wife, that is dealt with as a personal attack and not as a provocation. That is reason for potential account deletion, with or without warning.

 

 This is also a provocation. I made my point. I am not telling how some of administrators provoked her in chat room while she was speaking with istanbulguy about music. Hope he will tell everything. You are bad. I am bad. I guess only good one is killed.

 

I guess you deleted İstanbulguy too. Good job. Cover your trails.



Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

46.       admin
753 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:41 pm

 

Quoting zeytinne

...some animalistic sex essay ?

 

Yes, a good one that explores the double standards applied to women by men. What is wrong with that?

47.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:44 pm

 

Quoting zeytinne

...some animalistic sex essay ?

 

 Here is a list of thehandsom´s essays and columns:

 

Columns by thehandsom

19 May 2010   
Armenian Question!!- I
 



21 Jul 2009  

 Animalistic sex, Innocent love
´women for fun´ and ´women for marriage´



19 Jul 2009  

 

News from Turkey-4
19th July 2009



11 Jul 2009  

 

News from Turkey-3
11 July 2009.


04 Jul 2009  

 

News from Turkey
4th July 2009


28 Jun 2009  

 

 

News from Turkey
Meanwhile in Turkey:


24 Apr 2009  

 

Topkapi Palace (opposite from the Land of the Blind )
Topkapi Sarayi-Palace of Empire


04 Apr 2009  

 

 

Solomon, I have surpassed you!!!
Hagia Sophia


01 Mar 2009  

Turkish Music
Variety of Turkish music. (art / folk / pop)


14 Feb 2009  

 

 

Open for lovers who could not find a place to kiss
Orhan Pamuk´s latest book ´Masumiyet muzesi´ -Museum of innocence´


06 Feb 2009  

Amcazade Huseyin pasa yalisi

 

 

He has also done countless translations and helped a few members out with advice.  So for all of his faults, he has made many, many contributions which can not be diminished because he has views that put in many fire storms. 



Edited (5/21/2010) by Elisabeth
Edited (5/21/2010) by Elisabeth

48.       admin
753 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:45 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

 This is also a provocation. I made my point. I am not telling how some of administrators provoked her in chat room while she was speaking with istanbulguy about music. 

 

Thanks for making your point. If there is a valid complaint there is no reason why you shouldn´t mention it though. 

49.       Trudy
7887 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:49 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

I guess you deleted İstanbulguy too. Good job. Cover your trails.

 

Eh? He´s not.

50.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 21 May 2010 Fri 08:49 pm

 

Quoting admin

 

 

Thanks for making your point. If there is a valid complaint there is no reason why you shouldn´t mention it though.

 

 Let spritzer defend herself. You can return her to defend herself for a little time. Are you brave enough to do this?

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