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1.       oeince
582 posts
 04 Jun 2010 Fri 03:20 pm

Thousands of innocent Palestinians have been barbarously slaughtered by Israel since 1947 regardless they are children, women, sick or elderly! Palestinian lands have been occupied by Israel step by step since 1947. Today % 75 of Palestinian lands is occupied by Israel! Israel aspires to obliterate whole Palestinian nation! Gaza blockade is a part of that bloody plan! Israel defrauds Palestinians and Gaza Citizens living rights! The main aim of Israel is to destroy whole Palestinians and occupy whole Palestinian lands!  Conscience owner humans cannot condone a nation’s annihilation regardless their religions, languages or colors! Gaza blockade has to been canceled! Israel has to draw back from Palestinian lands! It’s time to move before Palestinian Nation hasn’t destroyed at all! Israel’s bloody plans have to be STOPPED before its savagery shuts in the world! Because Israel is Terrorist! Israel is Pirate! Israel is Occupant! Israel is Killer!!!!



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2.       gezegen
269 posts
 04 Jun 2010 Fri 03:48 pm

I don´t know why, but some contra-voices are echoing in my mind right now, like "Palestinians are terrorists. They are all potential killers. They are bombs and bombers in Tel Aviv. They have bombed and killed many innocent Jews. Arafat is/was a terrorist."

 

Do these voices sound, in way or another, familiar to anyone? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}



Edited (6/4/2010) by gezegen

3.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 04 Jun 2010 Fri 06:11 pm

Here´s the voice Saying Israel is a killer since 1947 is totally forgetting the actual history of this big mess. I know people who have lost their children in bus-bombings in Israel. A more nuanced view is in order here. Israel has some evil people in power, just like the Palestines have (and had) some evil people in power. It´s not doves against hawks here. However, saying that Israel is an occupier now, defying human rights and international agreements, is totally right.

 

On the same note: I was looking for a boycot list of product made in Israel, but I keep finding lists that include everything that also supports, or is owned by Jewish people, or is made by companies that in the past have done business with Israel. I don´t want to boycot that. Just a "made in" list would be nice. Anybody knows such a list?

4.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Jun 2010 Fri 07:35 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

On the same note: I was looking for a boycot list of product made in Israel, but I keep finding lists that include everything that also supports, or is owned by Jewish people, or is made by companies that in the past have done business with Israel. I don´t want to boycot that. Just a "made in" list would be nice. Anybody knows such a list?

 

List of Products from Settlements in the Occupied Territories 

this  list is from the Gush Shalom website.

 

The Jewish Voice for Peace was down when I was writing this...but this is their url....

 

The BDS site has this... and the Israeli barcode starts with 729

 

This is the top ten list from the BDS Global Movement website.

 

I have removed the list per Trudy´s request....because she was afraid of "copwrite issues" ? I guess this is what was referred to (?)

 

Which seems very odd to me....seeing as whole articles have been posted here with no attribution or link....go figure????

 



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Edited (6/4/2010) by alameda [edited per Trudy´s request ]

5.       oeince
582 posts
 04 Jun 2010 Fri 09:49 pm

Israel is killer. Israel is the main source of terrorism in the world! Their barbaric acts that is based on Israel´s paranoid religional ideas like promised lands, creates a land of fear both for Palestine and Israel. The more Israel fear, the more they become barbarian!

 

What kind of "so called" human can kill women, children, elderly and sick? We talk about ten thousands here!

 

Here is the story of two basic people among these thousands.

 

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM). She was killed in the Gaza Strip by an Israel Defence Forces (IDF) bulldozer while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian Samir Nasrallah. The IDF has claimed that the death has been due to restricted angle of view of the D9 bulldozer driver. The New York Times said Corrie and others were acting as "human shields." A student at the Evergreen State College, she had taken a year off and traveled to the Gaza Strip during the Second Intifada.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

 

Furkan Dogan was a nineteen year old boy who was on Mavi Marmara as a peace activist. He was shut by head with four bullets and a bullet to his chest.

 

What kind of ideology can do that savagery? What could a 24 year old girl and 19 year old boy do to a fair country?

 

The ideology of Israel is absolute selfishness. They believe no one’s lives are valuable but Jews.

 

What makes Israel a disgusting killer is this schizophrenic obsession!

 

 

 

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jun 2010 Sat 12:40 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

Here´s the voice Saying Israel is a killer since 1947 is totally forgetting the actual history of this big mess. I know people who have lost their children in bus-bombings in Israel. A more nuanced view is in order here. Israel has some evil people in power, just like the Palestines have (and had) some evil people in power. It´s not doves against hawks here. However, saying that Israel is an occupier now, defying human rights and international agreements, is totally right.

 

On the same note: I was looking for a boycot list of product made in Israel, but I keep finding lists that include everything that also supports, or is owned by Jewish people, or is made by companies that in the past have done business with Israel. I don´t want to boycot that. Just a "made in" list would be nice. Anybody knows such a list?

 

+1000

When I do shopping from supermarket, I try to check where there are from. ..I discovered recently, there are many avocados and dates are coming from Israel.. I am not buying them those despite the fact that  specially the dates looks delicious and juicy..

 

7.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 05 Jun 2010 Sat 12:46 am

Israel is the source of all terrorism?! WHAT?! Come onnn, so it´s also Israel´s fault that Somali pirates are attacking ships? I have thought you a bit more educated oeince...

 

By the way, I can also put great stories on here of people who died in bus bombings from Palestine terrorist. There are many sides to every story. But believe me, Israel is not part of EVERY story in the world.



Edited (6/5/2010) by barba_mama

8.       vineyards
1954 posts
 05 Jun 2010 Sat 01:40 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

Israel is the source of all terrorism?! WHAT?! Come onnn, so it´s also Israel´s fault that Somali pirates are attacking ships? I have thought you a bit more educated oeince...

 

By the way, I can also put great stories on here of people who died in bus bombings from Palestine terrorist. There are many sides to every story. But believe me, Israel is not part of EVERY story in the world.

 

Your recent answers reveal a universal aspect of possibly all humans: when their country or ethnic origins are in question, roles change. You find yourself acting exactly the way Turks do when they deal with the criticism about their country. With matters buried in the ashes of history, eg the Armenian question etc, this could be justified to some extent. Patriotism makes you so blind, you cannot see the reality although reality is broadcast on mass media day in and day out where perpetrators have the nerve to appear live to peek fun at all the world.

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 05 Jun 2010 Sat 02:16 am

I´m neither Jewish nor Israeli and I´m siding with Palestinians as far as the conflict is concerned. Still, the statement that "Israel is the main source of terrorism in the world!" is way exaggerated. Israel is guilty of war crimes, terrorism seems more of an Islamic fundamentalist domain. Israel´s actions are local, they don´t spread worldwide, which makes Oeince´s statement false.

10.       vineyards
1954 posts
 05 Jun 2010 Sat 02:38 am

Well, Daydreamer, ever heard Mossad. If so, ever wondered why they are so ubiquitous?

Israel has never played for small stakes. They did whatever it took to play the game according to their own rules.

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