Well, Daydreamer, ever heard Mossad. If so, ever wondered why they are so ubiquitous?

Israel has never played for small stakes. They did whatever it took to play the game according to their own rules.

I think what Oeince means is that much of the current world problems come out of the conflict with Israel. It is somewhat like a wound that has gotten infected and now infects the other parts of the body. The whole Islamic world has been upset at how things have been going, and feeling powerless and humiliated about it.  How many International laws have been snubbed? How many UN resolutions have been broken? How many of the Geneva Conventions have been broken?

Note, it was not said they were the perpretators, but the source. However, one should ignore their many acts of terrorism, they are just more sophisticated.

In the end, I don´t really think it has much to really do with Israel itself, but rather they are a pawn in a deadly game of power and conquest. Let´s remember, we are talking about the entry into the Fertile Crescent... how many throughout time have lusted after that piece of territory? 

The Israelis are fighting for their existance. They are a traumatized people who are not reacting in a sane manner. Likewise for the Palestinians, all these years of death, mutilation, land loss and untold humiliation have taken a deadly toll.  So, we have two deeply traumatized people fighting for their existance. I wish there were someone, something to call time out.  Everyone needs to chill out.

Why can´t the land could be shared?  I don´t understand the law that allows someone whose mother´s mother´s mother.......was a "Jew" if they even believe in a Divine Power or not, to take land from people who have lived there for millennia....people who are indigenous.  I have to ask myself, what would Moses have said? What would he have called them? The Palestinians did not just appear there a few years ago.  They have deep roots. You can not just uproot them.

I once spoke with an Israeli man, who told me he was an athiest.  I asked him what he was doing in Israel, seeing as to him it wasn´t the Promised Land........this I don´t undersand....  actually, there are some other things I don´t understand 

Until they learn to share the land and resources, there will not be peace.

Mossad? i don´t think they´re the only intelligence agency out there. Or the most successful one for that matter.

What terrorist actions has Israel been the source of globally? In the last 20 years?

Oh it would be lovely if Palestinians and Israelis just shook hands, kissed each other on the cheek and lived in peace. This seems unlikely though (unfortunately for the common citizens of both countries).

Do you know the name of your country´s own intelligence agency. For my own part, I have never heard. Most European countries must have kept theirs so secret, people don´t even know their names.  As a matter of fact, there are just a few of them known by everyone: CIA, KGB, FBI and MOSSAD. MOSSAD has always been one of the most active secret services.

Isn´t yours the MIT? That name I´ve read quite often in thrillers about Turkey. The Dutch one is called AIVD.

+ 100000! Well said!

Israel is the main source of global terrorism!

The power flows across countries and powerful countries create their own social system from the beginning of the world! Wars are used to be an important argument to create the social system that the powerful countries like.

 There were wars while Egyptians were building pyramids based on a significant scientific background; there were wars when Roman Empire were developing modern law, wars were still there when Greeks were establishing philosophical thinking way and it was the same when Ottoman Empire spreads Islamic thinking.

However, these wars were being made between armies; the societies weren’t been tortured and exploited until the exploration of America. The world has witnessed genocides after that event. This was not a war between armies. This was absolute destroy of some nations. Millions of people have been killed in America just because they are others! Lucky locals have been slaves in the worst conditions that the world ever seen. Natural sources of those people have been captured. Therefore, while some nations were being destroyed, the killers were been being richer. Mercantilism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism owns its roots to that enrichment.

Thrived nations have made industrial revaluation by the exploited labour force of others! They needed more and more slaves and they have fallen to a new imperialism competition. They destroyed many nations especially in Africa. So that, they owned new labour forces and natural sources. Today’s economical understanding, capitalism, is based on that imperial culture.

Jews did not own a country while these developments were happening. They were living almost in all countries, especially in developing ones.  Jews were always good at commerce. Thanks to their closed social structures and commerce talents, Jews improved their capital stock. The main aim of those savings was using them to receive their “so called” promised lands.

Coming to the end of 1800s Jews owned a very important asset. They were able to that the USA will be the most effectual power of the world in the close future. They began to create strong links with that country. They have placed significant roles in US government and economy. They needed the US to receive their “promised lands”

During the wars era, Jews began their occupying actions in Palestine. After the first and second world war, along with the US became the world’s super power, they have turned back to “promised lands”. They have occupied Palestine on 1948 and established Israel! Now 75 % of Palestinian lands are occupied. Ten thousands of people are killed.

Today, Jews own the biggest companies of the world. They own the biggest gun companies too. Every single lands of the world mean sources to Israel. The most innocent action of them is to dominance foreign economies. Whoever displays a resistance to Israel’s wishes are enemies. After 9/11 terrorists. They need new lands first to sell guns, than their products. They buy governments for their sakes. They provoke ethnic groups to create new wars and instability in where they want.  Just one sample, In Congo 1.5 million people killed each other just in one night and 5 millions as a total! Now Congo changed their name as Democratic. Sarcastic ha? If they own Jewish guns and American bases, if they consume Jewish products or provide natural sources for Jewish, they are democratic.

If a person believes in just his life is valuable but not any others; if he is spiritually married to god and god just loves him; if he won’t be punished for his actions; if everything is possible for him; he will be harmful for its neighbourhood. But if the richest nation and its gunned power believes that; this idea just brings barbaric terrorism for the whole world!

Read Daydreamers remark, that´s how I feel. I just had a BIG problem with saying that Israel seems to be the source of all evil. Tell me, if you don´t agree with my previous remark, then HOW is Israel responsible for the Somali pirates? And to make something clear. I feel Dutch. I feel no connection towards Israel, besides having friends there. I am more connected to Turkey than to Israel. The only thing in Israel that is important to me is the Wailing Wall, which I would like to see one time in my life.

KGB is pretty darn busy too. Still today people seem to "vanish in to thin air" even though the KGB isn´t called KGB anymore. Thinking Mossad is the busiest of them all is a bit naive (Yes, I know, shocking. ME calling somebody else naive! )

To Oeince, it seems to me that people have this weird idea about all Jews being in business, and being good at commerce because of their DNA. The Jewish people got into trade because they were often not allowed to own land. In the olden days, businesses went from father to son (like a farm-land was passed on) but since the Jews were not allowed to own land, it was the trade business that was handed down. This did not happen for ALL Jews though. Yes, this might be shocking to you (insert sarcastic tone), but there ARE poor Jews, and even Jews that are beggers. The Jewish part of my family were simple workers. Not rich, not powerfull. It is the Christian Dutch part that worked for the bank And the whole idea that the Jews own everything... well, where is your proof? The percentage of the American people that is Jewish is tiny. There are more people living in Istanbul then there are Jews around the world.

 Israel is the main source of global terrorism!

Could you provide your source for this statement or other wise modify this post please and the previous one where you made this statement.  Thank you.

Barba mama when i build my ideas about a social group, i do not reference to realtively uneffectful members of the group. I try to generalize according to the whole members actions. So i do not imply your relatives.

Coming to Somali, the same situation in Congo is valid in Somali.

Libralady, i cant understand you clearly, you want the link of the article or a proof about Isarels murders?

These are my articles so i cant show you the sources.

And about murders i just referred two single deaths. You can see ten thousands of others if you just google Israel.

To add one more goverment murder please check http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/18/world/main6219372.shtml

Oince, Israel is not the source of all evil. We criticize Isreal for her aggressive policies which result in loss of life as was the case with the recent incident. I would also agree with you when you crticize the Israeli government for its nationalistic policies. We know that Jews have a lot of power in America through their high level contacts. This way they are instrumental in shaping the generally aggressive aspects of the American foreign policy. They seem to capitalize on the naive urban cowboy type machoism. I would conclude, Israel has always been a co-founder of the neo-con stance which has irritated even the modertely patriotic Americans. All these point out to the presence some mechanism that functions outside the legal boundaries.

Still, it would be a gross exageration to say Isreal is the source of all evil. Jews are both good and bad just like any other people. It is the government that shapes the policies. No government in the world can be completely benign.