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30.       oeince
582 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 01:18 am



Edited (6/7/2010) by oeince

31.       oeince
582 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 10:14 am

BM, if you investigate what motivates Israel and Israel diaspora for their bloody plans, you would be ashamed of your blames on me.

 

We have to state the main problem clearly.

 

Any bliefs offer promised lands, any blief claims a sipiritual wedding between god and believers, any belief reveals just the believers lives are valuable.

 

I offer you to open up your mind and try to see the whole picture.

32.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:28 am

Ofcourse I know about the "promised land", but you are linking things the wrong way. Just because Israeli government uses religious claims to kill people, doesn´t mean that all people of that religion are killers, or believe in those claims. Remember the terrorists who crashed those planes on 9/11, who used religious islamic claims for their killings. This doesn´t mean that all Muslims are killers, or believe in what those terrorists believed.

 

You have also linked worldwide terror to Israel. And now you only mention the promised land, which is a small geographical area.

 

Do you see my problems with your claims? You are taking something wrong (Israeli actions) and spinning it into something that´s just not true, and you are losing credit this way.

33.       oeince
582 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:43 am

BM, did you really read my statemens? If yes, you should be blind not to see many paragraphs like this one;

 

I repeat again not to be understood wrong, I do not mean the Jewish people who just work, watch TV in the evening and mostly care about his/her family. I love those people and I know that we agree with those Jewish people. The group I mean on my comments is the ones who make bloody plans behind closed to create riots in the world.

34.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 12:04 pm

I did read what you said. You said "Israel is the source of all terrorism", "During the wars era, Jews began their occupying actions in Palestine. After the first and second world war, along with the US became the world’s super power, they have turned back to “promised lands”. They have occupied Palestine on 1948 and established Israel!" and you said "Today, Jews own the biggest companies of the world. They own the biggest gun companies too. Every single lands of the world mean sources to Israel. The most innocent action of them is to dominance foreign economies"

 

You were clearly talking about "the Jews" and made ugrounded claims, only based on your biased view. Jewish people do not own the biggest companies in the world (I happen to research the biggest companies in the world for my job, so I know who owns who). You say Israel or the Jews or whatever became a superpower, which is also an ungrounded claim. You say things that you don´t have proof for, and some people (who don´t research these kind of things more precisely) might believe you. This is dangerous, and a source of racism.

 

You can have a problem with Israel, yes, but just base that on the FACTS please. I also have a big problem with Israel, with their occupier role in the last few years, and their aggressive stance. I base this on facts. I don´t make up stories about Jewish people or world power.

35.       oeince
582 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 12:19 pm

Actually there ar too many books and a lot of debates under my statements. So i stand behind every singe words of them.

 

However, i think everything must have an end. Dou you also think that we shall stop that arguement? All people who joined the discussion told enough to state their points of views.

36.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 01:43 pm

we agree to disagree

37.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 04:04 pm

 

Quoting oeince

Ania, you dont know me becouse we do not talk to each other for four years. Also if you knew me, u would know that i would never do plagiarism.

 

Yes my level of English is different on these posts, becouse i elaborated on writing those. Because that issue is not important to me. I didnt write those just to post in here.

 

I did not make those explainations for you, i wrote these to clearify the situation.

 

So please do not ever adress me in your comments. Also forget about my PM!

I find it hard to believe that a person´s level of English can change so significantly, especially grammar-wise. The difference is too striking, but, it doesn´t matter. I just stated my opinion.

 

I wasn´t going to reply to your PM anyway, so don´t worry about that. However, I can´t promise not to comment on your posts. I always say the things I want to say, regardless of whether other people are interested in what I have to say or not But, should that please you, you may choose to ignore my comments. I won´t take it amiss

 

38.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 09:56 pm

oeince, I can´t find any evidence that would indicate that this is not your work.  I am sure you have read many articles and books on the subject and are pulling from a multitude of sources when you post your thoughts. 

 

As a reminder, the forum rule regarding citing materials in Turkish Language Class goes as follows:

 

 

12.  Any message with more than a few sentences copied from another source must give the source with the copied text. Excessive copying from other sources must be avoided. Instead of pasting a whole article please post a link to the article and your thoughts about it in a few sentences.

 

 

 

As daydreamer has said, she was only stating her opinion of your posts and that she believes your posts do not look like your own work because of the differences in language usage. 

 

To the best of my ability, I have not been able to find any work on the internet close to what oeince has posted here on TC. 

39.       oeince
582 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 10:08 pm



Edited (6/7/2010) by oeince

40.       oeince
582 posts
 07 Jun 2010 Mon 10:16 pm



Edited (6/7/2010) by oeince
Edited (6/7/2010) by oeince

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