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07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:22 pm |
Gezegen i dont know and actually don´t care when you wrote your own comments on word but i do that frequently.
The claim in question has nothing to do with on which platform you wrote or whether you first wrote on the word processor and then paste it here. It has nothing to do with font and font-size change, either. As far as her claim is concerned, the difference between language levels in your writing and your usual posts (like the ones above/below) counts. I simply wanted to point out this and told that you yourself are proving her claim to be true.
(Notice the parts in red bold)
In order that thread is important for me i wrote my statements on the word processer .... Afreall, i pasted my writings here.
I insist on deletion of the mentioned pararagraphes in order i cannot accept injustice regardless to whom it is done!
Edited (6/7/2010) by gezegen
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07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:31 pm |
Yes my level of English is different on these posts, becouse i elaborated on writing those. Because that issue is not important to me. I didnt write those just to post in here.
This seems a reasonable explanation of why some here may perceive a difference in Oeince´s work. As I understand him, some of his posts are writings that he has pre prepared (not originally intended for this site - an assignment of some kind perhaps?), spending time on crafting/perfecting them, whilst others are more spur of the moment posts, when he has taken less time over "quality" of grammar.
Oeince has put a lot of time and effort into his posts, and I think he has a right to defend himself vociferously regarding the accusation of plagiarism.
Please note, I am not making any judgement about anyone´s views about the subject matter.
Edited (6/7/2010) by peacetrain
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07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:38 pm |
This is absolutely how it happened. In order that thread is important for me i wrote my statements on the word processer and spent some time to select the right expressions. Afreall, i pasted my writings here.
I do that too sometimes. Then the way I write or speak to say, my elders, is not the same as I would communicate with my peers. Then how I speak to children is again another "language", so to speak.
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07 Jun 2010 Mon 11:39 pm |
This seems a reasonable explanation of why some here may perceive a difference in Oeince´s work. As I understand him, some of his posts are writings that he has pre prepared (not originally intended for this site - an assignment of some kind perhaps?), spending time on crafting/perfecting them, whilst others are more spur of the moment posts, when he has taken less time over "quality" of grammar.
Oeince has put a lot of time and effort into his posts, and I think he has a right to defend himself vociferously regarding the accusation of plagiarism.
peacetrain - You stated exactly my thought, on a different aspect of the problem. You are right. Now the question is, to what extent? Even if worked hard on a text, could a non-native speaker with certain language level reach at the level, that has been in question here?
I am not making any judgement here, either.
Edited (6/7/2010) by gezegen
Edited (6/7/2010) by gezegen
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08 Jun 2010 Tue 12:14 am |
Now this has reached a point it never should have. After all, it´s not important whether or not oeince wrote it himself or researched the subject and posted a collection of other people´s ideas.What we should (and already have as a matter of fact) focus on is the content. A lot of users expressed their opinions and that´s it.
Disclaimer:
Expressing doubt concerning the origin of Oeince´s posts was NOT a personal attack. It was an observation. I´m not the only user asking for links and sources in this forum (right, Alameda) Personal attack would be commenting on one´s character, life or intelligence. My disbelief concerned merely the words posted. ([sarcasm]a person as fluent in English as him would surely be able to tell the difference [ /sarcasm/] instead of crying about it to the admins)*
*the words in brackets are not meant to be a personal attack either but if anybody feels they are, have fun reporting me to the admins
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08 Jun 2010 Tue 01:27 am |
"...I´m not the only user asking for links and sources in this forum (right, Alameda) ...
right....and mostly ignored I might add....
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08 Jun 2010 Tue 05:36 pm |
I am not surprised about the dismiss of Helen Thomas.
Israel and USA never have been democratic and tolerant.
The situation will be even worse after USA lose her economic power.
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08 Jun 2010 Tue 08:52 pm |
And we thought, Obama would change somethings...
..........I worked as a volunteer on his campaign...I can´t say I expected as big a change as many, however the alternative was much worse. Think about it, it could have been John McCain and Sarah Palin.The kill the wolves and "Drill Baby drill" team.....
Who I really wanted was Dennis Kucinich, but he didn´t have enough money. He was not popular with the "right" people.
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08 Jun 2010 Tue 09:03 pm |
Who I really wanted was Dennis Kucinich, but he didn´t have enough money. He was not popular with the "right" people.
I am honestly not trying to be funny....but do you think that looks have something to do with how popular a candidate is? I was doing some research for a project and was asked this very question. My findings were that people vote for who they find attractive. Of course people have different views of what is attractive...but it is an interesting point. Now back to Israel....
Edited (6/8/2010) by Elisabeth
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