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The Bible in the context sexuality
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12 Jun 2010 Sat 09:30 pm |
This will kill all my fun, but anyway, you seem not to have gotten what I tried to point out, barba. Your previous statement, I took it for a moment like, ´sex is a practice that could be only performed by babies´!
Now the whole fun has now turned into big absurdity. Thanks!
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12 Jun 2010 Sat 09:40 pm |
The Bible basically says that having sex is for babies. The Catholic church interprets this most strictly, not allowing condoms and such. Other Christian churches might have different views, and do allow such things as the pill and condoms, as long as it is within a marriage.
Where in the Bible it says so?
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12 Jun 2010 Sat 09:44 pm |
Huh? I didnt know there are different Bibles like the Catholic Bible. But no problem, please feel free to tell if you could tell only according the Catholic Bible.
Let me help you a little bit.
Stumpy talks from Catholic cathechism, not Bible.
There is one Bible. Catholics have changed one thing in the 10 Commandments in order to fit their idea of worshipping the idols. And added one gnostic book to the Old Testament.
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 12:22 pm |
The Bible basically says that having sex is for babies. The Catholic church interprets this most strictly, not allowing condoms and such. Other Christian churches might have different views, and do allow such things as the pill and condoms, as long as it is within a marriage.
I asked you a question where do find it in Bible. Ignorants always babble whatever their saliva brings to their tongues.
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 03:39 pm |
I asked you a question where do find it in Bible. Ignorants always babble whatever their saliva brings to their tongues.
Ahm..how about here? You know, the story of Onan is quite famous...
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 04:10 pm |
Ahm..how about here? You know, the story of Onan is quite famous...
Dear DD, do you know why Onan was killed?
Onan´s obligation was to keep up his brother´s line which he didnt want to.That was an obligation imposed by law.
Within the marriage sex is your business, God doesnt interfere in that sphere, because its intimate and private.
The verses that are quoted in that site, you think are speaking against sex other than the procreation? I think you shouldnt impose the catholic teachings on the biblical teachings.
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 04:59 pm |
Dear DD, do you know why Onan was killed?
Onan´s obligation was to keep up his brother´s line which he didnt want to.That was an obligation imposed by law.
Within the marriage sex is your business, God doesnt interfere in that sphere, because its intimate and private.
The verses that are quoted in that site, you think are speaking against sex other than the procreation? I think you shouldnt impose the catholic teachings on the biblical teachings.
I know what I´m talking about, and you´re saying it too but interpreting differently. Onan was supposed to take over his brother´s maritial obligations - have sex and have a child. What he did was to have sex and use contraception (withdrawal) -> so, he wanted to have sex but he didn´t want a child. This sounds like a "contraception is bad" idea that Bible conveys. Are there any places in the Bible that say "have sex and enjoy it, having children is not the objective in marriage?" No? I thought so
Any quotes saying God considers marriage private and intimate and doesn´t interfere?
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 05:17 pm |
It is all about interpretation, it can be interpreted in both ways, Onan didnt listen to God, and because of disobeidence to God, he was punished or using contraception is something bad forbidden by God so God punished him. But i have to say lemon´s interpretation is correct and direct, other interpretation is something like adding words from your own that God did not say something like that which is not much welcomed in religous teachings, indirect interpretation...
I know what I´m talking about, and you´re saying it too but interpreting differently. Onan was supposed to take over his brother´s maritial obligations - have sex and have a child. What he did was to have sex and use contraception (withdrawal) -> so, he wanted to have sex but he didn´t want a child. This sounds like a "contraception is bad" idea that Bible conveys. Are there any places in the Bible that say "have sex and enjoy it, having children is not the objective in marriage?" No? I thought so
Any quotes saying God considers marriage private and intimate and doesn´t interfere?
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 07:04 pm |
I said basically, not literally. And I also mentioned it was a matter of interpretation. Perhaps you should READ what I write before you bite my head off.
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 07:20 pm |
I said basically, not literally. And I also mentioned it was a matter of interpretation. Perhaps you should READ what I write before you bite my head off.
Whatever you say you have to cover yourself. Basically or generally everyone can babble.
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13 Jun 2010 Sun 07:30 pm |
I know what I´m talking about, and you´re saying it too but interpreting differently. Onan was supposed to take over his brother´s maritial obligations - have sex and have a child. What he did was to have sex and use contraception (withdrawal) -> so, he wanted to have sex but he didn´t want a child. This sounds like a "contraception is bad" idea that Bible conveys. Are there any places in the Bible that say "have sex and enjoy it, having children is not the objective in marriage?" No? I thought so
Any quotes saying God considers marriage private and intimate and doesn´t interfere?
Well, Im gonna say to you that you dont know much of Mosaic Laws.
Onan could have and had as much sex as he wanted. His brother´s wife wanted a child or children. For a woman in Israel at those times (or any other woman of those times) not having a child was a shame. Women gained respect through having children.
Nowhere in the Bible it says you cant have sex without the idea of procreation.
Abraham and Sarah had sex for decades and couldnt have children.So did Isaac and Jacob.
God never said to anyone: Go have sex and enjoy it.
Read 1 Cor. 7. 5-6.
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