Hanso, you do it again. You call me racist. Isn´t this a personnal attack? You resort to calling others racists at some point as you did many times.

I have reasons to believe that you are not Türk. I believe some other Turkish members also think that you are not a Türk. Anyway that said, I don´t think not being a Türk is an insult. It´s just that you keeping saying you are Türk but you are not able to convince us Türks here. You may be a Kürd, an Armenian or whatever, I don´t have a problem with that. But don´t keep saying you are a Türk here.

I wonder why these that don´t agree with TheHandsome think he´s not a Turk? Do all Turks have to share the same point of view?

I am not doing anything at all..

Why do I need to convince anybody about anything? 

are you really "unable to see the racism" in what you are saying? I am serious!! 

I mean really..!!!

ps..Just a few days ago, the head of the army said very similar thing for some journalists. He said something like ´they dont have Turkish blood in them´ etc. Of course he was blasted back as being a common racist.  But the real problem is that  the head of the army is unable to understand why it is racism.  He thinks that it is pure form of nationalism. When the head of the army thinks that way, no huge surprise why army boot fetishists  think the same..  

You don´t need to (or have to) convince anybody. But you don´t convince me (and probably some others) about your being Türk. It´s it and that´s that. You don´t have to do anything about it. Never mind. Let it go.

By the way I am not happy with exchanging tits for tats with you. I am trying to avoid it but you keep provoking.

I think I will put the addition in my post again

ps..Just a few days ago, the head of the army said very similar thing for some journalists. He said something like ´they dont have Turkish blood in them´ etc. Of course he was blasted back as being a common racist.  But the real problem is that  the head of the army is unable to understand why it is racism.  He thinks that it is pure form of nationalism. When the head of the army thinks that way, no huge surprise why army boot fetishists  think the same..  

I was not even arguing with you in this thread..

So who is coming for more tit for tat?

Anyway...just let it go..

Quoting si++

Kardelen soldu

 

Another victim of this terrorist attack, sergeant Mehmet Çağlar Bölük was the husband of Elif İmenç Bölük who had played in the advertisment movies for a campaign launched for convincing the Kurdish families in the east of Turky who do not send their girls to school.

 

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Elif is a Kardelen (a name of flower). Kardelen is also a name project who provides education facilities for the little girls of (usually) Kurdish families in the East and South-East Turky. Elif is of Kurdish origin.

She has become a teacher with the help of Kardelen project. Then she started her carrier to help other Kurdish girls like herself in the South-East Turky where she met his Turkish husband (who was a victim of the Halkalı bombing). Then they moved to Istanbul and as a result she lost her husband.

Başbuğ, Head of Genaral Staff, talked about Elif´s wish for becoming an army officer to teach in the Army. Başbuğ said "Her demand to become a teacher in the Army will of course be fulfilled".

Elif will start her carrier in the army with lieutenant rank.

Apparently, the number of "children" killed in this war reached to 500..

We keep forgetting of course but the first recorded incident was in 1988 and the little boy called Ramazan Dag.. He got killed by mistake .. He was not even 13..

There is a new series about who these children are and how they got killed..

Each of them is heartbreaking; each of them  individually, is enough for all of us to think what this war is taking from all of us..   

Maybe all of these stories should be made public everywhere to show people what the real meaning of war is.

People who are against the peace should read them maybe so  they see what they support and question themselves if their objectives are more sacred than those children´s lives..  

Quoting si++

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Elif is a Kardelen (a name of flower). Kardelen is also a name project who provides education facilities for the little girls of (usually) Kurdish families in the East and South-East Turky. Elif is of Kurdish origin.

She has become a teacher with the help of Kardelen project. Then she started her carrier to help other Kurdish girls like herself in the South-East Turky where she met his Turkish husband (who was a victim of the Halkalı bombing). Then they moved to Istanbul and as a result she lost her husband.

Başbuğ, Head of Genaral Staff, talked about Elif´s wish for becoming an army officer to teach in the Army. Başbuğ said "Her demand to become a teacher in the Army will of course be fulfilled".

 

Elif will start her carrier in the army with lieutenant rank.

Terrorism is the enemy of humanity. it doesnt have a target, they can kill everyone at any time.  

Elif´s situation summarizes the PKK terrorism. in the funeral,  she called out to terrorists: "who are you? I am a kurdish girl, and I have a kurdish family, who wanted from you to defend my right?"

I am begining to think if we are talking about the same thing?

Look at the website and look at southeast or Turkey? Look at the colours!! 

http://secim.haberler.com/2009/

Almost all critics/scolars/politicians even the army  are accepting the fact that Kurds are supporting BDP.. The very Kurdish people are telling you that. I am sorry but you coming back as ´BDP is not supported by Kurds´ is something no one believes.. And I still dont understand why you are trying insist on this?

I can even understand people saying ´they do support  buy they are threatened by PKK´ because there is admission there  about the support.. But trying to prove that Kurds dont support BDP is a joke!! 

Yet another exaggeration. At least 90% of the Turks think ´Turkey belongs to Turks´ is an idiotic slogan. And guess what.. you are not the only one thinking that way. 

So please, stop making it look like you are the last and the most clever and educated Kurd this planet has ever seen.

Well, I dont think you are telling the truth with that.. Turkey has the biggest racist party of Europe..They have the vote 20% at least.

But I welcome you for ridiculing the racists slogans.. I hope you will join me in calling "andimiz" as racist as well..

The rest of your post is based on the fact that I was Kurdish..

It was a seriously wrong assumption.. 

So. Stop messing around and say you are with the option a or b?

It is a very simple question..

(repeating again as you refuse to answer it )

a) Give their rights to Kurds and live with them peacefully (Banning their language and trying to assimilate them and insisting ´there are no kurds´, forcing them ´look you are Turks´ did not work)

b) Insist that it is terrorism only (like we did since 198 and accuse USA and EU and see more people dying and eventually see Turkey being split.

ps.. If you really dont know what rights taken from Kurds and asking for a list, and if you are serious on that question I am afraid to say to you but, you should really just stop arguing with me and look around if  the country you have been living in is called Turkey really.