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Lost Songs of Anatolia
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10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 02:00 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I am not interested in what you call racist/racism. I don´t care whether you call me racist or whatever. I know what I am. You are the one who continuously keep bringing up the subject about Armenian/Kurdish genes in people who happily calls them Turks. I can sense your discomfort with that. You do it on purpose, you are not happy to call yourself Turk, that´s for sure. You find some relief by thinking about the Armenian/Kurdish genes you have in your genetic code. That´s fine but why do always keep mentioning here? Be happy with those genes in you that´s OK, but stop mentioning, it´s getting f**king boring.

 

 

Well I know you are proud of being a racist!! In fact, almost all racists are proud of themselves.. 

I dont have a problem with calling myself a Turk..I have never had and I will never be.. But I know there are many in Turkey they dont call themselves as Turks. Obviously that bothers "the racists". And those racists should respect people who dont call themselves Turks and understand that those people are the owner of that country as much as them selves.

In the end, it is a good thing that those racists realize they are simply not from central Asia and they carry the genes of those people they despise and try to belittle. It is good for them to know that they are genetically more Greek/Armenians/Kurds than central Asian Turks..  

But.. lets get back to the topic..

Can you feel the pain in that song I mentioned? have you listened to it? can you realize that what sort of pain it might be? what sort of pain we inflicted on those people? can we try to be a little bit human to understand her suffering?  



Edited (9/10/2010) by thehandsom

11.       si++
3785 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 02:29 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well I know you are proud of being a racist!! In fact, almost all racists are proud of themselves.. 

I dont have a problem with calling myself a Turk..I have never had and I will never be.. But I know there are many in Turkey they dont call themselves as Turks. Obviously that bothers "the racists". And those racists should respect people who dont call themselves Turks and understand that those people are the owner of that country as much as them selves.

In the end, it is a good thing that those racists realize they are simply not from central Asia and they carry the genes of those people they despise and try to belittle. It is good for them to know that they are genetically more Greek/Armenians/Kurds than central Asian Turks..  

But.. lets get back to the topic..

Can you feel the pain in that song I mentioned? have you listened to it? can you realize that what sort of pain it might be? what sort of pain we inflicted on those people? can we try to be a little bit human to understand her suffering?  

Firstly, I don´t think I am something to be called racist. That´s your f**king idea. I don´t care what you think.

Secondly I don´t care about the percentage of central Asian genes in me. I am still happy/proud to call myself Turk.

Thirdly, I don´t understand why you are so concerned with those genes??

 

And back to the topic. Sorry I cannot connect to utube nor have a proper player installed on my pc to listen to that song. And I will not bother myself with finding some ways to conect to utube or installing a proper media player for it.

 

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 03:09 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

Firstly, I don´t think I am something to be called racist. That´s your f**king idea. I don´t care what you think.

Secondly I don´t care about the percentage of central Asian genes in me. I am still happy/proud to call myself Turk.

Thirdly, I don´t understand why you are so concerned with those genes??

 

And back to the topic. Sorry I cannot connect to utube nor have a proper player installed on my pc to listen to that song. And I will not bother myself with finding some ways to conect to utube or installing a proper media player for it.

 

 

Did you put your hand on your heart and looked at the mirror and asked the question? 

It is not my idea.. That is what they call it in generic terms all around the world..

I think you should connect to youtube and listen to that song..

It made me and some others literary to cry.. (I felt the same when I read a book ´black burial clothes-kara kefen´. It was about a woman whose family got killed during 1915 when she was 10/11 yo and raised by a Kurdish family and then she got married to a Kurd and had kids etc.. She had to hide her pain in her entire life!! She simply was not allowed to talk about it as if it was her crime and the worse, she could not even share it with her own children. Can you imagine a life in which you even think you can not tell your sorrow to your own off springs? She, in the end, very close to her death, asked to be buried in black burial clothes as her dying will..And when she dies, her daughter realizes the suffering her mom had to go through and the guilt because she could not share it with her mom.. It is like thinking your mother was close to you but all those times, she was unable to share her grief and then when you realize it, your mom  has gone forever without telling it to her!!... That woman who was singing in that link..very sweetly, bitterly but with all her innocence, she was still trying to say that she is from Anatolia she was still trying to say that she belongs there... I felt so sorry for her.. so sorry that I could not do anything for her.. But only thing I can  do is that to share or trying to understand the pain she has been suffering)

Just a bit of compassion about what we have done to those people.. 

 



Edited (9/10/2010) by thehandsom

13.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 03:24 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

http://twitter.com/turkishclass

 

We must have Armenian classes on this site ....One look at TC in Twitter, would make you think this is an Armenian site....Great pity no one supports my proposal !

 

 

Well there is a great deal more that is NOT about Armenia on there, as it is linked to anything that is posted on the Facebook site.  I guess freeing the Dolphins in Hisaronu is also an Armenian issue????

 

14.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 11 Sep 2010 Sat 10:41 am

How dare you compare innocent Armenians with vicious dolphins? Utterly out of line !..{#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

The only resemblance is that they both sing !



Edited (9/11/2010) by AlphaF

15.       barkindo
22 posts
 11 Sep 2010 Sat 02:30 pm

I am not interested in what you call racist/racism. I don´t care whether you call me racist or whatever. I know what I am. You are the one who continuously keep bringing up the subject about Armenian/Kurdish genes in people who happily calls them Turks. I can sense your discomfort with that. You do it on purpose, you are not happy to call yourself Turk, that´s for sure. You find some relief by thinking about the Armenian/Kurdish genes you have in your genetic code. That´s fine but why do always keep mentioning here? Be happy with those genes in you that´s OK, but stop mentioning, it´s getting f**king boring:

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as a geneticist it is interesting for me to see how much of human behaviour is nowadays attributed to ´genes´ 

There is no such thing as ´Kurdish´ or ´Turkish´  or ´Armenian´ genes. We all share the same gene pool, only the frequency of some variations is unevenly distributed.  We are all descendants of the original Adam and Eve, both in a biblical and evolutionary sense.  

I love Turkey deeply, for its beauty, its people, its culture, for many reasons.  But i am not blind to the fact that there are problems now  and there has been grave injustice in the past.  But dwelling on the past too much, and not looking towards the future means becoming bitter and denying our children a chance of a happier life.  

 

16.       mltm
3690 posts
 11 Sep 2010 Sat 03:06 pm

Thank you for making me discover this documentary. It´s very interesting. I´ll try to watch all of it.

The songs there are very touching. It is obvious that they come from heart. Every time I am more astonished about the richness of Anatolia. i hope it will never disappear. There are a lot to discover about this land.  

I think we (everyone from anatolia) should be proud of this richness and existence of different peoples and cultures on this land, at least it makes me proud and we should try to learn much more about all this richness. Maybe then we can learn to be more tolerant and feel less hatred.

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17.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 12 Sep 2010 Sun 12:13 am

 

Quoting mltm

 Maybe then we can learn to be more tolerant and feel less hatred.

 

If Si++ and AlphaF are a good representation of the population, I would not hold your breath waiting for that day

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