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Honour killings spread to the World
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1.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 12:19 pm

Iraqi Kurds, Palestinians in Jordan, Pakistan and Turkey appear to be the worst offenders but media freedoms in these countries may over-compensate for the secrecy which surrounds "honour" killings in Egypt – which untruthfully claims there are none – and other Middle East nations in the Gulf and the Levant. But honour crimes long ago spread to Britain, Belgium, Russia and Canada and many other nations.

 

Source: here

2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 02:08 pm

 

Quoting si++

 But honour crimes long ago spread to Britain, Belgium, Russia and Canada and many other nations.

 

Source: here

 

Hardly a surprise looking at the number of immigrants of Muslim upbringing...it´s natural that wherever they go they take their ways along...it´s reprehensible but unavoidable I suppose

3.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 02:21 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Hardly a surprise looking at the number of immigrants of Muslim upbringing...it´s natural that wherever they go they take their ways along...it´s reprehensible but unavoidable I suppose

 

Yeah. So much that now Sweden Democrats fear Islamic revolution.

4.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 02:31 pm

I, for one, would hate to see that. But I´m not really into the whole conspiracy thing and I don´t think Islam will take over secular Europe and throw us back into the Middle Ages. I think if we continue to try and educate immigrants, they (especially women) will see that western culture gives them more freedom and that religion is a private matter - practise whichever you want, but keep it away from the law. i met quite a few Muslims (both men and women) in Europe who prefer the European lifestyle.

It´s actually similar in Turkey. 99% of the people I met there were no different than Europeans as far as lifestyle or attitude to religion is concerned. It´s true, all the Turkish people I met are from big cities in the west, maybe somebody from east would be different, but I think turkey is handling religion vs the state policy quite well and no different than Europe.

5.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 03:27 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I, for one, would hate to see that. But I´m not really into the whole conspiracy thing and I don´t think Islam will take over secular Europe and throw us back into the Middle Ages. I think if we continue to try and educate immigrants, they (especially women) will see that western culture gives them more freedom and that religion is a private matter - practise whichever you want, but keep it away from the law. i met quite a few Muslims (both men and women) in Europe who prefer the European lifestyle.

It´s actually similar in Turkey. 99% of the people I met there were no different than Europeans as far as lifestyle or attitude to religion is concerned. It´s true, all the Turkish people I met are from big cities in the west, maybe See below somebody from east would be different, but I think turkey is handling religion vs the state policy quite well and no different than Europe.

There is no "maybe" but "definetely". You have only seen one face of Turkie. There is definetely the other side of the coin. The last referendum has clearly shown who´s where:

 

And below is the map greens are "yes", and reds are "no"

 

6.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 03:51 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I, for one, would hate to see that. But I´m not really into the whole conspiracy thing Depends! see the link below to better understand why swedes think so. and I don´t think Islam will take over secular Europe and throw us back into the Middle Ages. I think if we continue to try and educate immigrants, they (especially women) will see that western culture gives them more freedom and that religion is a private matter - practise whichever you want, but keep it away from the law. i met quite a few Muslims (both men and women) in Europe who prefer the European lifestyle.

 

 

Sweden

Malmö - ~25% (NEWS) [percent of immigrants, foreign born or both parents foreign born: 36% (STAT)]
Stockholm - 20% (>155,000 of 771,038) (EUMAP) [percent of immigrants: 36% (STAT)]

 

Source: Muslim population in Europe

 

7.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 04:51 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

There is no "maybe" but "definetely". You have only seen one face of Turkie. There is definetely the other side of the coin. The last referendum has clearly shown who´s where:

 

And below is the map greens are "yes", and reds are "no"

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmL1UVFBm24

Here is my present to the people who are scared of those Anatolians who said YES to the constitutional amendments.

 

Duvara astığın o çorapların sahibi geldi 
Altına aldığın o kilimlerin sahibi geldi 
Kıro keko hırbo zonta maganda 
Kıro keko hırbo zonta maganda 

===

The owner of the village socks you hang up on the wall, has come

The owner of the authentic  kilim you sit on, has arrived.

 

The rest (Kıro keko hırbo zonta maganda ) are the words generically speaking  the white Turks use to insult village people, Kurdish people or the people who think they are uncultured..!!

 

 

8.       oeince
582 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 05:37 pm

Quote: Daydreamer 

Hardly a surprise looking at the number of immigrants of Muslim upbringing...it´s natural that wherever they go they take their ways along...it´s reprehensible but unavoidable I suppose

 

According to that approach we can explain the increase of despicable crime rates and gangs in the UK with the Polish migrants.

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 05:38 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

There is no "maybe" but "definetely". You have only seen one face of Turkie. There is definetely the other side of the coin.

I expected there to be more than one Turkey now, the question is, what should be done to make the east more like the west? I´m talking about solutions that will not require force or making people reject their regional culture.

 

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Sep 2010 Mon 05:38 pm

 

Quoting oeince

Quote: Daydreamer 

Hardly a surprise looking at the number of immigrants of Muslim upbringing...it´s natural that wherever they go they take their ways along...it´s reprehensible but unavoidable I suppose

 

According to that approach we can explain the increase of despicable crime rates and gangs in the UK with the Polish migrants.

 

I think crime rates in the UK was dropping down lol

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