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Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?
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14 Jun 2006 Wed 09:06 am |
No, we don't expect anybody. I don't have time to work on that issue these days. The main source is TDK on this issue and I already gave a link. Some native speakers who have enough time need to browse over 60 pages and copy a list from each page and then put them together and then eliminate uncommon words that are not used anymore or are replaced with words with Turkish origin. Bye.
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14 Jun 2006 Wed 11:44 am |
Well I'm not at all surprised with the French influence on the Turkish words. Actually, if i go through my dictionary I always enjoy to see where the words come from and it showed me that many words come from French. Their spelling has been switched to Turkish, but has kept the French pronounciation in a Turkish way (şezlong - chaise longue).
But I always wonder how they distinguish some words like.. 'enternasyonal'. That could be both from English and French origin, though I'd go for French as it starts with an 'e' (and the french -i- at the start of a word comes quite close to the Turkish -e-).
Interesting list. I'd contribute if I could. Maybe going through my dictionary will be helpful but today I promised mum to help her cleaning the 'library room'.
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16 Jun 2006 Fri 02:01 am |
i'm native arabic speaker, but i dont know Turkish
But i know that "Mahir" is from arabic origin and so for "tekrar".
When i'll find more words i'll tell you.
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17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:28 am |
I'm a native Arabic speaker...I'd like to help. What do you need me to do?
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17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:44 am |
Some words from Arabic:
acaba
acayip
afiyet
bahşiş
basit
beyaz
çay
fark
fatura
fırın
filan
fiş
hafif
hak
hap
hizmet
cumhur (like in cumhurbaşkanı
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17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:57 am |
And more
ısrar
iade
iflas
ihraç
imkan
imdat
iptal (as in iptal etmek)
ise
istek
işaret
kabul (as in kabul etmek)
kusur
lazım
levha
memnun
mesafe
mesela
meşgül
meydan
milyar
muayene
mücadele
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17 Jun 2006 Sat 06:24 am |
And even more
nefes
nihayet
nikah
niyet
oda
özür
patlıcan
reddetmek
resmen
rüya
silah
şeffaf
şeref
şiddet
şiir
tabii
takdim
taksit
tarih
tavsiye
taze
tecrübe
tecavüz
tedavi
tehdit
teklif
tekrar
terk
teslim
tuhaf
tüccar
ücret
ünvan
vatan
ve
zarar
zayıf
zeki
zevk
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17 Jun 2006 Sat 06:34 am |
Also, I can post the Arabic words themselves that these Turkish words came from.. sometimes, the Arabic word is used differently from how it is in Turkish.
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17 Jun 2006 Sat 07:12 am |
Greetings ~ OS ~ ,
What we want is to help Turkish learners. If somebody learns Turkish and knows speaks Arabic, then Arabic should help that person in learning Turkish. The question is, "which words can the Arabic speaker us in Turkish safely"?
We are going to find the answer to that question. Since there were many people interested on this subject I have decided to return to work on this issue. We are going to follow these steps:
Step 1. According TDK (Turkish Language Institution, http://www.tdk.org.tr/ ) There are 6453 words in Turkish that are from Arabic origin. We need to get the whole list on a document so we can work on it.
Step 2: We need to eliminate those words that are not used anymore in daily life in Turkish. I will delete all the words an average Turkish person wouldn't understand.
Examples:
badehu
badema
badiye
bağdadi
bahir
bahname
I will leave all the words an average Turk will understand.
Examples:
badire
bahar
baharat
bahis
I thing at the end of this step there will be aroun 2500 words left. There are too many words that have been replaced with words with Turkish origin. Maybe some old people will understand some of these replaced words but we can not include them as they wouldn't be useful for Turkish language learners to use in daily life in Turkia.
Step 3:
Our native Arabic members will check these 2500 words and will confirm that they indeed understand those words. If a native Arabic speaker doesn't understand words like these below we will remove them from the list.
badire
bahar
baharat
bahis
Lets say there wi,ll be 2490 words left.
Step 4: Probably TDK will have missed some words. We will ask our native Arabic members to add more words that are not in the list. Of course I will confirm an average Turk will understand them. I will also check the words that have been posted in this thread.
Let's say there will be 2530 words at the end of this step.
Step 5:
I will finalize the list and will post it here. Other Turkish members will check the list and they too will confirm they can understand these words.
Anyway, for now you don't need to do anything. I'm on step two now and when I have cleared the list I will post it here.
Bye
Erdinç
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14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:20 am |
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Edited (7/23/2016) by Yarvik364
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14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:22 am |
Where was my microscope?
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