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Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?
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10.       erdinc
2151 posts
 14 Jun 2006 Wed 09:06 am

No, we don't expect anybody. I don't have time to work on that issue these days. The main source is TDK on this issue and I already gave a link. Some native speakers who have enough time need to browse over 60 pages and copy a list from each page and then put them together and then eliminate uncommon words that are not used anymore or are replaced with words with Turkish origin. Bye.

11.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 14 Jun 2006 Wed 11:44 am

Well I'm not at all surprised with the French influence on the Turkish words. Actually, if i go through my dictionary I always enjoy to see where the words come from and it showed me that many words come from French. Their spelling has been switched to Turkish, but has kept the French pronounciation in a Turkish way (şezlong - chaise longue).

But I always wonder how they distinguish some words like.. 'enternasyonal'. That could be both from English and French origin, though I'd go for French as it starts with an 'e' (and the french -i- at the start of a word comes quite close to the Turkish -e-).

Interesting list. I'd contribute if I could. Maybe going through my dictionary will be helpful but today I promised mum to help her cleaning the 'library room'.

12.       kimmy
1 posts
 16 Jun 2006 Fri 02:01 am

i'm native arabic speaker, but i dont know Turkish
But i know that "Mahir" is from arabic origin and so for "tekrar".
When i'll find more words i'll tell you.

13.       ~ OS ~
46 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:28 am

I'm a native Arabic speaker...I'd like to help. What do you need me to do?

14.       ~ OS ~
46 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:44 am

Some words from Arabic:

acaba

acayip

afiyet

bahşiş

basit

beyaz

çay

fark

fatura

fırın

filan

fiş

hafif

hak

hap

hizmet



cumhur (like in cumhurbaşkanı



15.       ~ OS ~
46 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:57 am

And more


ısrar

iade

iflas

ihraç

imkan

imdat

iptal (as in iptal etmek)

ise

istek

işaret

kabul (as in kabul etmek)

kusur

lazım

levha

memnun

mesafe

mesela

meşgül

meydan

milyar

muayene

mücadele

16.       ~ OS ~
46 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 06:24 am

And even more

nefes

nihayet

nikah

niyet

oda

özür

patlıcan

reddetmek

resmen

rüya

silah

şeffaf

şeref

şiddet

şiir

tabii

takdim

taksit

tarih

tavsiye

taze

tecrübe

tecavüz

tedavi

tehdit

teklif

tekrar

terk

teslim

tuhaf

tüccar

ücret

ünvan

vatan

ve

zarar

zayıf

zeki

zevk




17.       ~ OS ~
46 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 06:34 am

Also, I can post the Arabic words themselves that these Turkish words came from.. sometimes, the Arabic word is used differently from how it is in Turkish.

18.       erdinc
2151 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 07:12 am

Greetings ~ OS ~ ,
What we want is to help Turkish learners. If somebody learns Turkish and knows speaks Arabic, then Arabic should help that person in learning Turkish. The question is, "which words can the Arabic speaker us in Turkish safely"?

We are going to find the answer to that question. Since there were many people interested on this subject I have decided to return to work on this issue. We are going to follow these steps:

Step 1. According TDK (Turkish Language Institution, http://www.tdk.org.tr/ ) There are 6453 words in Turkish that are from Arabic origin. We need to get the whole list on a document so we can work on it.

Step 2: We need to eliminate those words that are not used anymore in daily life in Turkish. I will delete all the words an average Turkish person wouldn't understand.
Examples:
badehu
badema
badiye
bağdadi
bahir
bahname

I will leave all the words an average Turk will understand.
Examples:
badire
bahar
baharat
bahis

I thing at the end of this step there will be aroun 2500 words left. There are too many words that have been replaced with words with Turkish origin. Maybe some old people will understand some of these replaced words but we can not include them as they wouldn't be useful for Turkish language learners to use in daily life in Turkia.

Step 3:
Our native Arabic members will check these 2500 words and will confirm that they indeed understand those words. If a native Arabic speaker doesn't understand words like these below we will remove them from the list.

badire
bahar
baharat
bahis

Lets say there wi,ll be 2490 words left.

Step 4: Probably TDK will have missed some words. We will ask our native Arabic members to add more words that are not in the list. Of course I will confirm an average Turk will understand them. I will also check the words that have been posted in this thread.
Let's say there will be 2530 words at the end of this step.

Step 5:
I will finalize the list and will post it here. Other Turkish members will check the list and they too will confirm they can understand these words.

Anyway, for now you don't need to do anything. I'm on step two now and when I have cleared the list I will post it here.
Bye
Erdinç

19.       Yarvik364
162 posts
 14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:20 am


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Edited (7/23/2016) by Yarvik364

20.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:22 am

Where was my microscope?

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