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Is nationalism rising in England?
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1.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 12:22 am

LATEST NEWS FROM LONDON

Today
"we saw Muslims break the 2 minute silence in Central London, with
banners holding "British Soldiers Burn In Hell" & the burning of a
poppy... If you don´t like us English people paying respect for our
brave fighters, then you know where the airport is. Disgusting,
...disrespectful bastards! Copy and paste this ...if you´re British and...
proud. R.I.P our brave fighters."

 

 

"LOVE OR LEAVE", eh?....Sounds very familiar; where did I hear this before? {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}



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2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 03:17 pm

I thought poppy meant paying respect to the soldiers who died liberating Europe from Hitler and his (not so) merry gang of nazists {#emotions_dlg.unsure} Is this something the Muslim community in England would mind?

BTW, Mohammet is the 5th most popular name given in the UK in 2009. I suppose most Muslims have British citizenship so, logically, the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are THEIR soldiers as well {#emotions_dlg.holy}

3.       stumpy
638 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 05:42 pm

The poppy recalls the end of World War 1 in 1918, and the Germans signed The Armistice, at the 11th hour, of the 11th day, of the 11th month, that ended the major hostilities of War.

The day was specifically dedicated by King George V, on 1919, to remember the members of the armed forces who were killed during the war.

A poem has also been written:

“In Flanders Fields” is believed to of been written on the 3rd of May, 1915, after Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae(a Canadian doctor and teacher, who served in both the South African War and the First World War.), witnessed the tragic death of his 22 year old friend Lieutenant Alexis Helmer, on the day before. It was published by the London-based magazine, Punch in December 1915. The complete poem is inscribed in a bronze book at the John McCrae Memorial at his birthplace in Guelph, Ontario, Cananda.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow

Between the crosses, row on row,

That mark our place, and in the sky

The Larks, still bravely singing, fly

Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago

We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,

Loved and were loved, and now we lie,

In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:

To You from falling hands we throw

The torch, be yours to hold it high.

If ye break faith with us who die

We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

In Flanders fields.

 

The poppy also denotes sleep, rest and repose, something that is well deserved by ANY fallen soldier.

4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 06:26 pm

"The poppy also denotes sleep, rest and repose, something that is well deserved by ANY fallen soldier."

Stumpy

 

Is that so? Why then do you think Western media insists on calling Iraqies who died fighting against invaders of their country "insurgents"?





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5.       stumpy
638 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 06:36 pm

Quote:AlphaF

Is that so? Why then do you think Western media insists on calling Iraqies who died fighting against inaders of their country "insurgents"?

How would I know?  When I watch the news and see the footage I see men fighting to defend what they think is true on both sides and it pains me to know that fathers/mothers, sons/daughters, brothers/sisters,  are killed every day, not counting the innocent bystander who happens to get caught in the middle of the conflics.

When I wear the poppy it is to remember ALL soldiers fallen during war time.  I lost many friends during wars, one of them was an Isrealy fighter pilot who was shot down in the 1990´s on a mission and if I were to listen to public opinion my friend should have been my enemy!  Go figure and I grieved when I learned of his death, ironic, no?

6.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 07:24 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

How would I know?  When I watch the news and see the footage I see men fighting to defend what they think is true on both sides and it pains me to know that fathers/mothers, sons/daughters, brothers/sisters,  are killed every day, not counting the innocent bystander who happens to get caught in the middle of the conflics.

When I wear the poppy it is to remember ALL soldiers fallen during war time.  I lost many friends during wars, one of them was an Isrealy fighter pilot who was shot down in the 1990´s on a mission and if I were to listen to public opinion my friend should have been my enemy!  Go figure and I grieved when I learned of his death, ironic, no?

 

That hardly answers my question; perhaps you dont have the answer either....

 

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

7.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 08:24 pm

I´m sorry, but what is the thought behind this post? Only anger about people being angry about people burning the poppy? Or are we also angry about the people who actually burned the poppy? I think we are losing sight here on what happened. And I think Muslims can be proud British too, or did I get confused again?

So, my question: are we getting angry over this message, but not at what happened to indice this message?



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8.       stumpy
638 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 08:32 pm

The people who burned the poppy probably do not know the significance of the poppy.

 

And to answer your question again AlphaF, I do not know, it was rather clear the first time I said "How would I know?"

9.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 09:01 pm

I think the people who burnt the poppy are desperate attention seekers and trouble makers. If they don´t like Britain so much, why do they immigrate there? Why do they look for British citizenship? After all, how many foreigners who hate Saudi Arabia´s barbaric laws seek asylum there?

I don´t support the invasion of the east, but I find it idiotic to protest against something they have no idea about, like the poppy.

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10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 Nov 2010 Fri 09:40 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

The people who burned the poppy probably do not know the significance of the poppy.

 

And to answer your question again AlphaF, I do not know, it was rather clear the first time I said "How would I know?"

 

"Insurgent" means "one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one´s own political party or his own country".

The Brits (West in general) called Iraqies who fought to free Iraq from invaders, insurgents .....They were wrong, and should have looked the word up in a dictionary first.

Now they met real insurgents for the first time and wonder if these fiercely bearded guys know what British poppy symbol stands for.

{#emotions_dlg.head_bang}



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