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öyle bir geçer zamanki, cloggies, and prejudice
1.       barba_mama
1631 posts
 07 Dec 2010 Tue 10:16 pm

I was having a conversation the other day about prejudices that Turkish people might have of Western women. People have told my other half many times that he might as well dump me, since all Western women cheat. The people who have actually met me have (slightly) altered their views, but still. It sucks But I deal with it. Just like I deal with the prejudice that every Turkish man must be a dudu. However, I have this idea that if a Turkish man would be portrayed as a dudu in a Dutch tv-show, all hell would break loose, with ofcourse outcries over racism and moslim-hatred.

Now... somebody told me that there was a Turkish tv-show (aka serial) with a Dutch woman in it. Cloggy as I am, I watched "öyle bir geçer zamanki"... and how disappointing First of all, the Dutch woman on the show isn´t Dutch but German...but okay, it´s acting. Than I found out she was from Amsterdam in the show. Oh well, I guess most foreign people think the whole of Holland consists of Amsterdam. But than she turned out to totally fit the prejudice that most Turkish people have about Western women. She is just a total evil biatch, cheating like a pro! Great image for us cloggies

 



Edited (12/7/2010) by barba_mama

2.       Elisabeth
5729 posts
 08 Dec 2010 Wed 12:02 am

I know how you feel.  The stereotypes of Americans are in so many movies that are seen abroad...even in American movies.  It just makes me think that people must be very comfortable in believing stereotypes. 

 

I still know people who insist that my husband´s ultimate plan is to convert me to Islam and drag me to Turkey...Its must be the most complex, mysterious and secretive plan in the history of Turkish duduism because I´m still here after all these years.  He hasn´t even tried to kidnap the kids and bring them back to Turkey! 



Edited (12/8/2010) by Elisabeth

3.       si++
3782 posts
 10 Jan 2011 Mon 06:03 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I was having a conversation the other day about prejudices that Turkish people might have of Western women. People have told my other half many times that he might as well dump me, since all Western women cheat. The people who have actually met me have (slightly) altered their views, but still. It sucks But I deal with it. Just like I deal with the prejudice that every Turkish man must be a dudu. However, I have this idea that if a Turkish man would be portrayed as a dudu in a Dutch tv-show, all hell would break loose, with ofcourse outcries over racism and moslim-hatred.

Now... somebody told me that there was a Turkish tv-show (aka serial) with a Dutch woman in it. Cloggy as I am, I watched "öyle bir geçer zamanki"... and how disappointing First of all, the Dutch woman on the show isn´t Dutch but German...but okay, it´s acting. Than I found out she was from Amsterdam in the show. Oh well, I guess most foreign people think the whole of Holland consists of Amsterdam. But than she turned out to totally fit the prejudice that most Turkish people have about Western women. She is just a total evil biatch, cheating like a pro! Great image for us cloggies

 

 

´Türkiye´de bana tapıyorlar´

´Öyle Bir Geçer Zaman Ki´ dizisinin ´Caroline´i Wilma Elles, Alman gazetesine konuştu

10 Ocak 2011 Pazartesi, 16:57:05
´Türkiye´de bana tapıyorlar´

Türkiye´de yayınlanan ´Öyle Bir Geçer Zaman Ki´ adlı dizinin Alman oyuncusu Wilma Elles, kendisinin Türkiye´de çok beğenildiğini söyledi.

Güzel yıldız, Alman ´Kölner Express´ gazetesine yaptığı açıklamada, Türkiye´deki genç kızların kendisi gibi olmak istediğini belirterek, "Dizide arka planda oynamama rağmen burada bana tapıyorlar" ifadesini kullandı.

´ŞANSIM VARMIŞ´
Gazetenin haberinde, Alman oyuncunun, sokağa çıktığında bir çok hayranı tarafından hediyelere boğulduğu, imza almak isteyenlerin birbiriyle yarıştığı, hatta dizideki rolüne kızan bazı muhafazakar yaşlı izleyicilerin bile, kendisiyle tanışıp konuştuktan sonra Elles´i çok sevdiği belirtildi.

Köln kentinde 8 ay öncesine kadar küçük bir evde yaşayan Alman oyuncunun, bugün İstanbul´da lüks bir dairede oturduğuna işaret edilen haberde, Elles´in, "Şansım varmış. Tam doğru zamanda doğru yerdeydim. Bir Türk yönetmen ile kısa metrajlı film çekmiştik. O bana Türkiye´de çalışmamı tavsiye etti" dediği belirtildi.

 

Translation:

The German Wilma Elles who´s acting in a Turkish serial called "öyle bir geçer zaman ki" says they adore her in Turkie even if she´s not acting the star role in the serial.

She says "8 months ago I was living in Cologne and now I am living in a luxury apartment in İstanbul for which I consider myself to be very lucky". When she´s walking out in the streets, she is immediately noticed by the people around, says she. Many give her gifts and many old people like her after talking to her a little while.

 

Source: here

4.       si++
3782 posts
 26 Jan 2011 Wed 07:09 pm

This serial seems like becoming one of the legendary ones of all times ever produced in Turkie so far.

Last nigth ratings show an incredible share of 59%. Even the summary of the previous episode got 35% share.

 

Sıra Program Tipoloji Kanal Saat RT SH
1 OYLE BIR GECER ZAMAN KI Serials Turkish KAND 20:47:00 27,5 59,1
2 OYLE BIR GECER ZAMAN KI (OZET) Serials Turkish KAND 20:02:00 14,1 34,7

5.       mltm
3690 posts
 26 Jan 2011 Wed 11:29 pm

I do not understand why its ratings are so high. i watch it from time to time from youtube but when it is on tv I do not watch it because on internet i can play forward. it has a lot of crying and pure emotional exploitation scenes that last for minutes. 

6.       gokuyum
4856 posts
 28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:00 pm

 

Quoting mltm

I do not understand why its ratings are so high. i watch it from time to time from youtube but when it is on tv I do not watch it because on internet i can play forward. it has a lot of crying and pure emotional exploitation scenes that last for minutes.

 

 This scene even effected me. I am thinking about watching it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru8BeJnp1sw 

7.       si++
3782 posts
 06 Mar 2011 Sun 01:43 pm

I watched the "Beyaz Show" on Friday night.

 

Among the guests were the grup "Mavi Işıklar" who we rediscovered through this serial. They mentioned this fact and stated it as "power of the Turkish serials".

 

During the serial, two songs of "Mavi Işıklar" were used by two student bans of the same high school preparing for a nationwide competition.

8.       si++
3782 posts
 03 Apr 2011 Sun 10:59 am

´Caroline’i gönderin´

Çalışma Bakanı’ndan ilginç istek!

03 Nisan 2011 Pazar, 09:49:58
´Caroline’i gönderin´

Çalışma ve Sosyal Güvenlik Bakanı Ömer Dinçer’in yolunu kesen bir grup kadın, Kanal D’de yayınlanan “Öyle Bir Geçer Zaman ki” dizisinde Caroline’i canlandıran Alman oyuncu Wilma Elles’in ülkesine gönderilmesini istedi.

Hürriyet´in haberine göre, talepleri şaşkınlıkla dinleyen Dinçer, olayla ilgili şunları anlattı:

“Bütün kadınlar Ali Kaptan’ın yuvasını yıktı diye Caroline karakterinden nefret ediyormuş. Beni bizzat arayan, ‘Caroline Türkiye’de izinsiz çalışıyormuş, onu ülkesine gönderin, aile kurtulsun’ diye şikayet mektubu gönderenler var. Ben de ‘Hakikaten kaçak mı çalışıyor’ diye baktırdım. Bunun da aslı yok. Alman sanatçı Wilma Elles, iki yıldır ülkemizde izinli olarak çalışıyor. İnsanlar, bazen gerçek hayatla, diziyi birbirine karıştırabiliyor. Canlandırdığı karakterden öylesine nefret etmişler ki Türkiye’den giderse ailenin kurtulacağını düşünüyorlar.” 

 

 

Translation:

Some women asked from Ömer Dinçer (labor and social security minister) to send Caroline (Wilma Elles) back to her country saying that she has no work permit.

 

Caroline depicts an evil bitchy woman in the movie "Öyle bir geçen zaman ki" and Turkish women cannot winthstand her evil ways in that movie.

 

The minister has said that they have checked out her work permit issue and she has it.

 

Source: here

9.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 05 Apr 2011 Tue 07:11 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 However, I have this idea that if a Turkish man would be portrayed as a dudu in a Dutch tv-show, all hell would break loose, with ofcourse outcries over racism and moslim-hatred.

 

 

 

is that why the whole country claps the first person to say theyre shooting fitna 2?

 

10.       barba_mama
1631 posts
 06 Apr 2011 Wed 09:43 pm

 

Quoting Burak7777777

 

 

is that why the whole country claps the first person to say theyre shooting fitna 2?

 

 

 Are they? What are you basing this on? Nobody here cares.

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