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American Girls are the Worst!
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40.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 03:21 am

theres big difference between 1100 years and 200 years. im sure you can simply see that by logic or i have to give another lesson not about history but genetics and antropology.

well you also love generalising. "most" americans are there for 3-4 generations? what you made a statistic research? you know %70 of american population? and wait, you also say most turks are there for only 1-3 generations? i actually found out most turks have been here for 700 years. most of their surname you can even trace back to middle asia. and comeon, people who re-migrated back from yugoslavya and bulgaria - from where do you think they settled into those countries in the first place?? and plus the anatolian families/tribes can trace back their line to 5000 years. they never moved.

 

shortly.. americans are yes they are themselves foreigners. thats why its called the new world and this is called the old world. if they were not foreigner, then they are foreigner now with 160456098456 pakistanis 563657357 chinese and 5464564564 indians in their country. youll just be another addition.



Edited (4/8/2011) by Burak7777777

41.       newquaker
28 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 03:40 am

 

Quoting Burak7777777

theres big difference between 1100 years and 200 years. im sure you can simply see that by logic or i have to give another lesson not about history but genetics and antropology.

well you also love generalising. "most" americans are there for 3-4 generations? what you made a statistic research? you know %70 of american population? and wait, you also say most turks are there for only 1-3 generations? i actually found out most turks have been here for 700 years. most of their surname you can even trace back to middle asia. and comeon, people who re-migrated back from yugoslavya and bulgaria - from where do you did they settled into those countries in the first place?? and plus the anatolian families/tribes can trace back their line to 5000 years. they never moved.

 

shortly.. americans are yes they are themselves foreigners. thats why its called the new world and this is called the old world. if they were not foreigner, then they are foreigner now with 160456098456 pakistanis 563657357 chinese and 5464564564 indians in their country. youll just be another addition.

 

What are you trying to Prove my friend? That Turks are older than Americans? You got it!

Just note that America is discovered in the 15th century and the first immigrant Americans started to come then, ok? Otherwise, if you skip all that history you should go to the beginning of the 20th century when the TC was newly founded...

 

Just do not change my words... How do you read my words??? Please go back and read it again right now! but carefully this time!

well you also love generalising. "most" americans are there for 3-4 generations?

 

I said "Most of the Americans around (Me*) are here at least for 3-4 generations ", so they are old enough to be considered NOT FOREIGN... who cares 200 years or 1000 years or whatever!

 

you also say most turks are there for only 1-3 generations?

 

This really pisses me off! You READ IT PROPERLY first! Dont keep twisting my words. This is what I said originally:

 

My family is barely in their 3rd generation in Turkey! I have lots of relatives and neighbors in their 1-2nd generations. Remember the immigrations from Yugoslavia and Bulgaria???

 

I never said Most Turks are 1-3 generations, I was merely talking about my family, relatives and many of my neighbors!  We are Balkan immigrants, and we are basically foreign by your standards!!!  I mean my family is MORE foreign than Most Americans around me here. So foreignnes is not an American thing only! And you´re wrong, I am ethnically Macedonian and my roots go to Yugoslavia, and always been a part of that culture and genetic pool house. But culturally I deem myself Turkish and I am proud of it, just not a typical one! PLEASE READ CAREFULLY before posting, and remember this is not a history forum! If you´d like to discuss history, created another thread and I will contribute there!

 

 

42.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 04:05 am

in 15th century the american continent was being colonised. nothing to do with states.

 

but what i dont understand - why do you try to prove your point so hard about the fact that youre not a typical turk? why didnt you make this thread in a british forum then? i mean youre foreigner to turkey, foreigner to england, foreigner to usa, then uhm.. yeah? i dont get the point of this thread. thats why im having hard time writing exactly about what you say.

43.       newquaker
28 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 04:59 am

 

Quoting Burak7777777

in 15th century the american continent was being colonised. nothing to do with states.

 

but what i dont understand - why do you try to prove your point so hard about the fact that youre not a typical turk? why didnt you make this thread in a british forum then? i mean youre foreigner to turkey, foreigner to england, foreigner to usa, then uhm.. yeah? i dont get the point of this thread. thats why im having hard time writing exactly about what you say.

 

I am not a foreigner to Turkey, this is your claim, not mine. I was born in Turkey, spent most of life there and I am, by all means, a Turk. I am not trying to prove that I am not a typical Turk, stated it once and simply responding to claims, wouldn´t even talk back about it, had it not been brought up. I also made my reasons clear why I created this thread, please go ahead and read the original post.

 

44.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 05:38 am

 

Quoting newquaker

 

 

I am not a foreigner to Turkey, this is your claim, not mine. I was born in Turkey, spent most of life there and I am, by all means, a Turk. I am not trying to prove that I am not a typical Turk, stated it once and simply responding to claims, wouldn´t even talk back about it, had it not been brought up. I also made my reasons clear why I created this thread, please go ahead and read the original post.

 

 

comeon. ready back what you wrote. youre bulgarian, you family and people around you are only turk for 1-2 generations.. not typically turk.. what do you expect someone to undersand from that?

 

"oh hi im turk but not turk. american girls suck. let me defend myself"

youre fighting a losing war here man give it up

45.       newquaker
28 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 08:38 am

 

Quoting Burak7777777

 

 

comeon. ready back what you wrote. youre bulgarian, you family and people around you are only turk for 1-2 generations.. not typically turk.. what do you expect someone to undersand from that?

 

"oh hi im turk but not turk. american girls suck. let me defend myself"

youre fighting a losing war here man give it up

 

Are you illiterate or pretend to be one? Or just a smartass? Being ethnically "Macedonian" (not Bulgarian, you wiseacre!) is nothing to blame and you are practically insulting millions of Balkan Turks. I have never said I wasn´t a Turk. ATATURK was ethnically Albanian, so was MEHMET AKIF, who is from the same area as my ancestors! But hey, you wouldn´t even know that there are thousands of Albanians living in Macedonia! Now are you telling me that Ataturk and Mehmet Akif are not Turks!? You are being utterly racist, and thanks for showing your true colors. You are probably just a 10 year old kid anyway! 

 

Don´t come up with such ridiculous, ignorant, and worthless pieces of words, you´re wasting my precious time. And that war is in your head! I have no war to fight for. Next time I won´t be so courteous.

46.       vineyards
1954 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 11:42 am

This thread is going nowhere. If you don´t want it to be locked or deleted; please cool down and stop being on the verge of flaming and insults.

Burak, newquaker´s ethnic roots is none of anyone´s businss. You may criticize his attitude but to link that to him being a Bulgarian or whatever is nothing but offensive...

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47.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 01:45 pm

As a woman I can see why some people on this forum are not attractive to American women Not pointing fingers, but somebody who says "you don´t like me, because you all suck!" isn´t charming.

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48.       armegon
1872 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 03:08 pm

This is just a herasay, no clear proof of this claim. On the other hand the ancestor´s of his mother dates vack to yörük´s of Karaman which she clearly emphasized that she was proud of. Her ancestors were first migrated to town of Vodina together with many Türkmens, later 130 years before her birth, family moved to Thessalonica. 

Quoting newquaker

ATATURK was ethnically Albanian

 

 

49.       MrsBee
190 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 04:07 pm

 

Quoting newquaker

 

@MrsBee

Let me rephrase my sentence about the "general population" ...

... in my opinion, trying too hard to please people by restructuring your sentences, or conceal the real tone of your thoughts is nothing but being political ... 

 

Thank you, but you didn´t have to rephrase the sentence. I understand what you were trying to say. I just jokingly pointed out the inconsistency in your posts. {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

About changing the title: it´s not about pleasing other people. It is about right and wrong. The title is cleary racist and sexist. I am pretty surprised that you are not able to see it and that it hasn´t been moderated yet.

Why are you insulting people? Starting off with criticizing a whole nation (state) because you (and other foreign people around you) have had bad personal experiences is definitely not being courteous.

You do sound unpleasant, crude and rude.

Your words don´t make any sense.

What is your problem? What kind of suggestions are you asking for? Why do you try to solve this problem by talking to foreigners on Internet instead of talking to locals in your physical life?

You know what? Don´t feel like you have to answer. Feel free to call me names, too. I don´t even care.

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50.       newquaker
28 posts
 08 Apr 2011 Fri 06:35 pm

 

Quoting armegon

This is just a herasay, no clear proof of this claim. On the other hand the ancestor´s of his mother dates vack to yörük´s of Karaman which she clearly emphasized that she was proud of. Her ancestors were first migrated to town of Vodina together with many Türkmens, later 130 years before her birth, family moved to Thessalonica. 

 

 

 

This is really not the point. Who cares what ethnicity he was, as long as he felt Turkish. Everyone (especially in that region) is mixed that people only cared about your religion and the language you were speaking. To me, Mehmet Akif was more Turk than most people although he was technically Albanian. The same way, my grandparents were technically Macedonian, but who cares? I was born in Turkey and grew with Turkish culture and that´s what matters.



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