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Killing of a Turkish young man by grandparents of his Dutch girlfriend
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08 May 2011 Sun 05:46 pm |
Turkey regrets killing of a Turkish young man by grandparents of his Dutch girlfriend
Turkey´s Foreign Ministry expressed regret on Saturday over killing of a Turkish young man by grandparents of his Dutch girlfriend.
A ministry statement said that 24-year-old Turkish man Atilla van Franeker was killed in the Netherlands on April 25 after he was stabbed by the grandmother of his Dutch girlfriend and hit by the gun of the grandfather.
"Such incidents hamper the efforts to ensure a co-existence in harmony in Europe," the statement said. The statement said Turkey was expecting the assailants to be brought before justice and be punished as soon as possible.
"This incident, which might occur due to racist and xenophobic motives, has caused public unrest among the Turkish community that has adopted itself to social life in the Netherlands, has contributed to the economic development of the country, and that has been paying great attention to preserve the atmosphere of peace and order and stability in the Netherlands," the statement said.
The ministry said politicians and media should undertake significant roles in preventing such attacks in the Netherlands. "We think that negative and prejudiced statements of politicians as well as media publications and broadcasts in the Netherlands make immigrants who constitute an indispensable part of the Netherlands a target of xenophobic people or groups," the statement said.
In its statement, the ministry also said Turkey was expecting politicians and media to behave more carefully and responsibly about this issue.
Source: here
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08 May 2011 Sun 06:41 pm |
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08 May 2011 Sun 09:00 pm |
This is truely disturbing.
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09 May 2011 Mon 09:26 am |
First of all, let me say that I regret the death of this young man. I feel sorry for his family, who have to miss him at such a young age.
However, I don´t agree with the remarks made by the Turkish government. This murder is not a reflection of the Dutch society. That this man had a gun in his house is highly suspect. Guns are illegal in Holland, and the fact that this guy had a gun already makes situation very strange. The neighborhood has said in interviews that the man who shot him was a bad man, who threatened other people as well. He´s clearly not an average Dutch man. The people mentoined he was arrested before because he followed somebody with an axe.
Secondly, this is the result of a long internal fight in the family. That this was caused because the man who was shot is half Turkish is speculation by the Turkish government. Personally, I think there were other things going on. The neighborhoud people said they didn´t like Atilla because he was known as being violent, also towards his girlfriend. They also suspected him to earn his money from illegal activities. It´s strange that Atilla was at those people´s house after a night of clubbing, at 6 o clock on a Saturday morning with 3 of his friends. This points towards a LOT more going on. I think we will never know what the real reasons are for shooting him, but I think screaming "Holland is xenofobic" is a simplification of the truth.
Yes, I personally also believe that my country is becoming more xenofobic, but no, this death is not caused by that. Xenofobia has not reached the point of shoting people. This is the result of a lot of strange people getting together, and the situation spinning out of control. The Turkish government calling this killing of a half-Dutch, half-Turkish person a xenofobic murder is not helping the multi-culti society in Holland at ALL. It will just make the Turkish people feel as victims, while the Turkish people in Holland are mostly nothing like Atilla, and will never end up in a situation like this.
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09 May 2011 Mon 10:14 am |
Self-criticism is not easy. You are bound to come with lots of "buts" and "howevers". We know Holland is not completely xenophobic nor does it set an example to racial tolerance.
Let´s remember Pippa´s story. She was the woman who was murdered in Turkey in a wedding gown. Her point was proving that people are essentially good. There is a risk in making such assumptions. The Turk who raped and killed her does not represent the average Turk either. Still, he is a product of this society. He is the bad face of this society The only way to get any improvement would be understanding and isolating the conditions that made that crime possible.
Pippa made a wrong assumption affecting the assumptions to be made by millions of others about Turkish society. Let´s stop making these void assumptions. You can´t turn a donkey into a zebra just by painting stripes on it. We know Holland is not all good, nor is it all bad.
Can´t we just try to iron out the rough spots rather than advocating our countries.
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11 May 2011 Wed 10:13 am |
Self-criticism is not easy. You are bound to come with lots of "buts" and "howevers". We know Holland is not completely xenophobic nor does it set an example to racial tolerance.
Let´s remember Pippa´s story. She was the woman who was murdered in Turkey in a wedding gown. Her point was proving that people are essentially good. There is a risk in making such assumptions. The Turk who raped and killed her does not represent the average Turk either. Still, he is a product of this society. He is the bad face of this society The only way to get any improvement would be understanding and isolating the conditions that made that crime possible.
Pippa made a wrong assumption affecting the assumptions to be made by millions of others about Turkish society. Let´s stop making these void assumptions. You can´t turn a donkey into a zebra just by painting stripes on it. We know Holland is not all good, nor is it all bad.
Can´t we just try to iron out the rough spots rather than advocating our countries.
Yes, he was murdered. Yes, this was bad. And yes, we need to recognize things to be able to improve them. However, we need to diagnose things CORRECTLY. If somebody is murdered because there was a crazy guy with a gun in his house, we shouldn´t call this racism. We should look at the real reason, to solve this issue. For example, how did this man get the gun? As Dutch society we (me and my countrymen) should look at the trade of illegal guns in Holland. This man was arrested before, why was he set free? We should look at the current legal system in Holland. People said they were afraid of the killer. Why didn´t they go to the police before, or did the police didn´t listen?
A lot of reasons to look at. But if racism isn´t one of them, calling Holland xenofobic will not solve this issue at all. The Turkish government just saw the word "Turkish" and "murder" and didn´t look into the issue any further. They didn´t see any other parts, like the fact that he was half Dutch and raised alone by his Dutch mother all his life. They also didn´t see the questionable back ground of the boy, pointing towards him being a pimp, possibly also for this girl. If the Turkish government wants to fight racism in Europe, they should address real racist violence. Getting mixed up in an unrelated murder, with a questionable victim is not usefull at all.
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