The following are some facts about the Libya before Western powers started bombing.

1)      Libya citizens get credit with zero interest rate, 

2)      The students get paid an average income based on their study, 

3)      Jobless people get paid fully until they find a job,

4)      Married couples get houses for free,

5)      Those who study abroad get paid €2500/month for spending as well as some more for car and accomodation,

6)      Cars are sold with zero profit,

7)      Libya has no credit or interest debt to any other country, 

8)      Education and health services are provided for free, 

9)      25% percent of the population are graduated from a university, 

10 )  There are no homeless people or beggars in the streets (until last bombings),

11)  Bread price is 0.15 $/kg for years, There is no starving people around!

Now Sarkozy will bring more and Libya will be a better place for sure! We are curious to see it.

I´d rather be poor and free than have free dental care and live under a dictator. The "free" healthcare in Lybia was so bad, that anybody with a bit of money went to Egypt or Tunesia to get treatment. Also, putting the label "university" on something doesn´t make it of the international "university" level. I even see this difference between Holland and Turkey. Some of the things that are called "university studies" in Turkey are called "HBO" in Holland, which is one level lower than university. There was no starvation in Lybia? It was even used as a torture method by Khadaffi! Libya WAS a great country to live in... if you were related to Khadaffi...

Your source is disputable. Some guy who sent an email (yes, I googled where you got it from). To pretend that Lybia was some sort of heaven is an insult to all the people who suffered under Khadaffi, and double insulting to all the people who died by his hands during the last decades.

I´d rather be poor and free than have free dental care and live under a dictator. Yes sure! The "free" healthcare in Lybia was so bad, that anybody with a bit of money went to Egypt or Tunesia to get treatment. Also, putting the label "university" on something doesn´t make it of the international "university" level. I even see this difference between Holland and Turkey. Some of the things that are called "university studies" in Turkey are called "HBO" in Holland, which is one level lower than university. There was no starvation in Lybia? It was even used as a torture method by Khadaffi! Libya WAS a great country to live in... if you were related to Khadaffi...

Your source is disputable. You say so because you can not find it in western media. Anyway those are unpleasant things for those who try to find ways to interfere in Libya. Some guy who sent an email (yes, I googled where you got it from It was posted (in Turkish) to a private yahoo group where I got it from.). To pretend that Lybia was some sort of heaven is an insult to all the people who suffered under Khadaffi, and double insulting to all the people who died by his hands during the last decades I hope they can be better now. let´s "wait and see".

Than that post was translated from english to Turkish. How do you know? Maybe it´s the other way.Don´t post something online, if you don´t even know where it comes from. Don´t tell me what to do! The source is somebody who said he received this information from somebody "who knows Lybia very well" who emailled it to him. So what? They may still be true. What makes you so sure they are not?

You can push buttons, and you can have your own opinions. But to back up a dictator who ran a horrible regime is even beyong what is okay for you. Can you show me the bits where I backed up a dictator? I only presented (passed) some "facts". Dental care sounds nice, but there were no dentist in the poorer areas of Lybia to give dental care. And even if there were, there was no equipment. Get your facts straight. The lines you have quoted are Ghadaffi´s ideas from his "green book", but the reality of Lybia was different. Then present your facts backed up by your trusted sources. I have spoken with enough refugees to know so! Hah? you only have spoken to some refugees and that´s enough to draw the whole picture?? You claims, and your lack of fact checking insults their suffering.

And all of this is not even taking into account the terrorists that were backed up by Ghadaffi. Scream and shout about America and their guns, but Ghadaffi who openly financed a plane bombing in the U.K. is an example of a "great government"?Again, I have never backed up Gaddafi anywhere. But I will not reject those facts blindfoldedly like yourselves. There may be some truth to them. That´s why I have posted them. Gaddafi may be anything but he was the head of an independent state. Nobody could tell him what to do. Libya was in no way a slave of the capitalist system (they have no debts to any bank or country). Libya was out of control of western powers. That was the reason to oust him. (puff I think you will see these lines as backing up a dictator, right? I think I am neutral person though.)